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« on: September 09, 2020, 12:16:50 PM »
« edited: September 09, 2020, 04:46:40 PM by DrScholl »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd5LNhdapy0&feature=youtu.be

Biden 47, Trump 43

Poll crosstabs will be posted around 12:45 Central time.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2020, 12:18:03 PM »

Note: They added Jo Jorgensen as an option
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2020, 12:18:10 PM »
« Edited: September 09, 2020, 12:30:15 PM by MplsDem »

688 LV

Biden 47, Trump 43

Note that this is the first time that Jorgenson has been offered as a choice in this poll.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2020, 12:18:58 PM »

If Biden's leading by 4 in WI while leading by ~8 points nationwide, that's not a great sign for him here. The amount of undecideds is also concerning; it's what enabled Trump's surprise win in 2016.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2020, 12:19:27 PM »

A week old. Why do they sit on polls?
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2020, 12:20:32 PM »

Essentially no change from July.
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2020, 12:21:37 PM »

RV Biden 46 Trump 40
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2020, 12:22:50 PM »

It's also quite an old poll. They were in the field Aug 30 - Sep 1.

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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2020, 12:23:14 PM »

So many undecideds and 3rd party votes that it reeks of WI polls from 16. Maybe it's just this particular pollster
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2020, 12:23:49 PM »

It's also quite an old poll. They were in the field Aug 30 - Sep 1.



So this is the immediate aftermath of the RNC, basically. Scratch what I wrote earlier. Biden continuing to lead after Trump's best chance to unilaterally dominate coverage is a good sign for him. I'm just worried about the undecided numbers.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2020, 12:25:33 PM »

Yeah, this is slightly after the RNC and already kind of old, so that's a bit frustrating.

Their RV poll has Biden +6, the same as last time but... more undecideds. 46-40 is ridiculous... that's 4% more undecided than last month.

Jo Jorgensen not getting 4%.

Biden dropping from +6 RV to +4 LV doesn't seem to jive with LV screen helping him in most other polls either.

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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2020, 12:26:06 PM »

It's also quite an old poll. They were in the field Aug 30 - Sep 1.



So this is the immediate aftermath of the RNC, basically. Scratch what I wrote earlier. Biden continuing to lead after Trump's best chance to unilaterally dominate coverage is a good sign for him. I'm just worried about the undecided numbers.

It's just a bad sample, I think. They somehow had *more* decided voters a month ago than now, which obviously isn't right
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2020, 12:27:27 PM »

Yeah, this is slightly after the RNC and already kind of old, so that's a bit frustrating.

Their RV poll has Biden +6, the same as last time but... more undecideds. 46-40 is ridiculous... that's 4% more undecided than last month.

Jo Jorgensen not getting 4%.

Biden dropping from +6 RV to +4 LV doesn't seem to jive with LV screen helping him in most other polls either.



4% for Libertarians is obviously comical. They probably end up getting less than 2% of the vote here. So the question is: Where do the rest of the voters go? I wonder how much it depends on whether there's a second wave of COVID and how impactful it would be.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2020, 12:29:19 PM »

Dumb of them to change their methodology and explicitly ask about the Libertarian. Especially if you’re doing live interviews. It just inflated her final vote share.
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2020, 12:29:51 PM »

Trump favorability -12, 42/54. Was 42/55 last month.
Biden favoribility 45/47. was 43/48 last month.

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2020, 12:31:55 PM »

8 days is really old and randomly adding Jorgensen is odd. Still essentially no change and the deeper fundamentals look solid for Biden.
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2020, 12:32:00 PM »

Trump job approval: 44/54 (-10) … was 44/54 in August

Does Joe Biden care about people like you? 48/45 (+3) … was 46/42 in June
Does Donald Trump care about people like you? 41/56 (-15) … was 39/57 in June

Pence fav: 39/46 (-7)
Harris fav: 38/37 (+1)

Trump fav: 42/54 (-12)
Biden fav: 45/47 (-2)

Trump protests approval: 36/54 (-18)

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The only thing that I can gather from this is that 44% looks like it's Trumps ceiling in Wisconsin. It's hard to look at these #s and only have Biden down 4-6.
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2020, 12:32:48 PM »

It's also quite an old poll. They were in the field Aug 30 - Sep 1.



So this is the immediate aftermath of the RNC, basically. Scratch what I wrote earlier. Biden continuing to lead after Trump's best chance to unilaterally dominate coverage is a good sign for him. I'm just worried about the undecided numbers.

Biden has the edge among undecideds this time. I wouldn’t worry about it.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2020, 12:33:08 PM »

If Biden's leading by 4 in WI while leading by ~8 points nationwide, that's not a great sign for him here. The amount of undecideds is also concerning; it's what enabled Trump's surprise win in 2016.

Another way to look at it is that the topline is 47-43 Biden, but Trump's approval is 42-54.  So a strong majority of respondents who didn't choose a candidate disapprove of Trump.
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2020, 12:33:51 PM »
« Edited: September 09, 2020, 12:39:01 PM by TiltsAreUnderrated »

August 30 - September 3
688 likely voters
MoE: ?
Changes with August 4-9 poll.

Biden 47% (-3)
Trump 43% (-3)
Jorgensen 4% (not previously listed, but "Neither" at 2%, "Refused" at 1%)

Results with leaners have not yet been released so the changes look at a bit shonky. I'll update when appropriate.

Edit: Undecided 7% (+6%)
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2020, 12:34:20 PM »

Trump job approval: 44/54 (-10) … was 44/54 in August

Does Joe Biden care about people like you? 48/45 (+3) … was 46/42 in June
Does Donald Trump care about people like you? 41/56 (-15) … was 39/57 in June

Pence fav: 39/46 (-7)
Harris fav: 38/37 (+1)

Trump fav: 42/54 (-12)
Biden fav: 45/47 (-2)

Trump protests approval: 36/54 (-18)

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The only thing that I can gather from this is that 44% looks like it's Trumps ceiling in Wisconsin. It's hard to look at these #s and only have Biden down 4-6.

Those Harris numbers are prior to her getting bombarded with cultural wars by Trump's goons in WI. Same thing happened with Feingold in 2016; dude looked like he had the Senate race wrapped up, and then the abortion ads pummeled him in the suburbs. I'm worried Biden/Harris isn't prepared for the bad faith attacks that are going to commence here.
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2020, 12:35:36 PM »

It's also quite an old poll. They were in the field Aug 30 - Sep 1.



So this is the immediate aftermath of the RNC, basically. Scratch what I wrote earlier. Biden continuing to lead after Trump's best chance to unilaterally dominate coverage is a good sign for him. I'm just worried about the undecided numbers.

This is the right take on this poll.
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2020, 12:45:25 PM »

Trump is at his worst approval since September of 2018.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2020, 12:45:51 PM »

Trump isn't going to carry a state where his approval rating is -10.
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2020, 12:48:51 PM »

A full release!

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/MLSP63ToplinesLV.pdf

August 30 - September 3
688 likely voters
Changes with August 4-9 poll

With leaners:

Biden 48% (-2)
Trump 44% (-2)
Jorgensen 4% (not previously listed)
Refused 2% (+1)
None/other 0% ("Neither" previously at 2%)
Don't know 2% (+1)
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