What would a Yang/Gabbard map look like?

[Real Texan Politics]

What would the map look like if Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard was the dem ticket instead of Biden/Harris? Would it be the 413 map or something else? Or would Trump win (even though I doubt he would if Yang was the nominee)?

[NewYorkExpress]

Putting Tulsi Gabbard on the ticket might be one of the dumbest things any Democratic nominee could do, and it probably would cost Yang both the popular vote and the electoral college, plus sink any future political ambitions for him (or lucrative cable TV/lobbying jobs)

Donald Trump/Mike Pence 49% 335 EV
Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard 45% 205 EV

[Left Wing]

Yang and Tulsi would be good fits for the rust belt but I don't see them doing especially well anywhere else. I think they still win Arizona just because of the national environment. I actually think Alaska would flip because Yang and Tulsi would appeal to their independents strongly.

Donald Trump/Mike Pence 226 EV
Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard 312 EV

[MR DARK BRANDON]

SC, MO and MT would be under 1% and I could see all three going to Yang.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Putting Tulsi Gabbard on the ticket might be one of the dumbest things any Democratic nominee could do, and it probably would cost Yang both the popular vote and the electoral college, plus sink any future political ambitions for him (or lucrative cable TV/lobbying jobs)

Donald Trump/Mike Pence 49% 335 EV
Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard 45% 205 EV

Where does the hate boner for Tulsi come from??

[NewYorkExpress]

Putting Tulsi Gabbard on the ticket might be one of the dumbest things any Democratic nominee could do, and it probably would cost Yang both the popular vote and the electoral college, plus sink any future political ambitions for him (or lucrative cable TV/lobbying jobs)

Donald Trump/Mike Pence 49% 335 EV
Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard 45% 205 EV

Where does the hate boner for Tulsi come from??

She's pro Bashar Al-Assad.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Putting Tulsi Gabbard on the ticket might be one of the dumbest things any Democratic nominee could do, and it probably would cost Yang both the popular vote and the electoral college, plus sink any future political ambitions for him (or lucrative cable TV/lobbying jobs)

Donald Trump/Mike Pence 49% 335 EV
Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard 45% 205 EV

Where does the hate boner for Tulsi come from??

She's pro Bashar Al-Assad.

So am I.

[NewYorkExpress]

Putting Tulsi Gabbard on the ticket might be one of the dumbest things any Democratic nominee could do, and it probably would cost Yang both the popular vote and the electoral college, plus sink any future political ambitions for him (or lucrative cable TV/lobbying jobs)

Donald Trump/Mike Pence 49% 335 EV
Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard 45% 205 EV

Where does the hate boner for Tulsi come from??

She's pro Bashar Al-Assad.

So am I.

And I don't like you either. However, you haven't run for national office and she has.

[Left Wing]

Putting Tulsi Gabbard on the ticket might be one of the dumbest things any Democratic nominee could do, and it probably would cost Yang both the popular vote and the electoral college, plus sink any future political ambitions for him (or lucrative cable TV/lobbying jobs)

Donald Trump/Mike Pence 49% 335 EV
Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard 45% 205 EV

Where does the hate boner for Tulsi come from??

She's pro Bashar Al-Assad.

That is ridiculous

[Kuumo]

I like how on threads about unconventional candidates like Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard, everyone either predicts a Trump landslide or a Democratic landslide without much middle ground. Our country is polarized enough that candidate quality matters less than in the past, especially with a pandemic-induced economic downturn. That said, I think Yang would only win very narrowly in this environment.

Andrew Yang/Tulsi Gabbard 278 EV 49.8%
Donald Trump/Mike Pence 260 EV 46.2%

Yang would do better if he chose a moderate running mate who appealed to the Sunbelt. Gabbard had roughly the same base as Yang in the primaries, so picking her would only please his original supporters and turn off persuadable voters outside his hardcore base.

[Former President tack50]

Yang and Gabbard are way too weird. Even with COVID, Trump would win a super easy victory:



Donald Trump: 350 EVs, 51% PV
Andrew Yang: 188 EVs, 46.5% PV

Now, if Yang picked a more conventional VP pick, he would make the election much closer, and probably even win; but Gabbard would sink the ticket.

[Agonized-Statism]

This is one of those elections that can only go really strongly one way or the other. On one hand, yes, Yang and Tulsi are oddballs- a lot of people don't like it when it's not a familiar neoliberal suit spouting platitudes. Sinophobia is strong with the electorate, red and blue, right now. Trump's base is riled up. On the other hand, Yang is a precursor to the kind of politics we'll see down the road- debates about automation, UBI, stuff like that. He doesn't have the charisma that Trump has but I think he ends up playing like Obama in 2008, that is to say an in-touch minority progressive with a plan to fix the crisis. Times are weird enough and people liked their stimulus checks. I think the Democratic ticket ends up winning big. They could also lose big. Irregularities could screw it all up like it will with any candidate this year. But, here's a possibility. Give or take Alaska, but if any state is going to be the elastic Indiana 2008 weirdo in this scenario, it's them.

President Donald Trump (R-FL) / Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)
Businessman Andrew Yang (D-NY) / Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) ✓

Or, Trump wins with the one-two punch of red scare and yellow peril.

President Donald Trump (R-FL) / Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN) ✓
Businessman Andrew Yang (D-NY) / Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

I know people on this forum hate Tulsi because she is pro-Assad, but most voters don't know or care. Also, Trump is way more pro-Assad than her and she is the VP candidate, it will have no affect, neither will her being pro-Modi.
Tulsi is a massive benefit for the ticket, in fact her and Yang are the only democrats I can see Trump's base switching to, they are almost radical anti-partisans in that way.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/PZxL9.png

[Kuumo]

I know people on this forum hate Tulsi because she is pro-Assad, but most voters don't know or care. Also, Trump is way more pro-Assad than her and she is the VP candidate, it will have no affect, neither will her being pro-Modi.
Tulsi is a massive benefit for the ticket, in fact her and Yang are the only democrats I can see Trump's base switching to, they are almost radical anti-partisans in that way.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/PZxL9.png

This definitely wouldn't happen. We are just too politically polarized now for either party to win a 400+ electoral vote landslide. The low-propensity voters in Trump's base would still turn out for him over Yang. With hindsight, the map I posted earlier is Yang's realistic ceiling, and I think if he actually picked Gabbard, he probably would turn off enough black and suburban voters to lose WI, MI, PA, and NV and allow Republicans to retake the House.

It would be an interesting hypothetical if a more conventional Republican like Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio had won in 2016 and Andrew Yang won the Democratic nomination in 2020. I think if that happened, some of the low-propensity Trump base would have ended up voting for Yang this year. This could conceivably lead to a more 2012-like map in the electoral college, although Yang would probably lose Florida by more than Biden and maybe even lose Miami-Dade County due to being a Chinese-American supporting "socialist" ideas like UBI. Maybe I'll write a timeline about this kind of scenario sometime.

[bagelman]

Yang would win a lot of low info voters, many of whom went for Trump this year. Would be very interesting and could depolarize things.