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« on: September 06, 2020, 09:35:21 AM »
« edited: September 06, 2020, 09:47:57 AM by Granite City »



Just waiting for the sample size. No change from August 12-14.

2,433 LV per FiveThirtyEight

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hmvwY-EJIMWKveUWPTdpx_-JL6VTqCcx/view
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2020, 09:40:12 AM »

September 2-4, 2020

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hmvwY-EJIMWKveUWPTdpx_-JL6VTqCcx/view

2433 likely voters
Changes with August 20-22 poll.

Biden 52% (n/c)
Trump 42% (n/c)
Someone else/third party 3% (-1%)
Not sure 3% (n/c)
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2020, 09:43:01 AM »

September 2-4, 2020

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hmvwY-EJIMWKveUWPTdpx_-JL6VTqCcx/view

2433 likely voters
Changes with August 20-22 poll.

Biden 52% (n/c)
Trump 42% (n/c)
Someone else/third party 3% (-1%)
Not sure 3% (n/c)

Impressive no bounce for Trump - WI is Solid R!
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2020, 09:49:48 AM »

It's May dude. Chill out. Biden's lead will be gone by Labor Day.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2020, 10:15:03 AM »

Very nice.

Nice big sample size too!
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2020, 10:32:57 AM »

There's till time left of course, but the race has generally been the same since May/June. People keep saying there's going to be a tightening by Election Day, but there generally has not been much evidence of that.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2020, 11:19:37 AM »

There’s still the debates...if Biden is still up by at least 5 at the end of them, he has this in the bag.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2020, 11:30:31 AM »

Yeah, but just wait until THIS month’s jobs numbers bump...
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2020, 01:19:50 PM »

Beautiful.
It would be lovely to see national, double-digit Biden leads again, over the next 2 weeks or so.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2020, 03:38:37 PM »

3 parties aren’t going to get 12% of the PV, so why aren’t the poll adjusting the final results?
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2020, 03:46:57 PM »

There’s still the debates...if Biden is still up by at least 5 at the end of them, he has this in the bag.

If I were in Trump's shoes, I certainly wouldn't bank on the debates. Joe Biden is pretty good in one-on-one debates. If he confronts Trump similar as he responded the recent story about insulting troops and can still come over as empathetic and caring, he should be absolutely fine. The Trump campaign placed their hopes in so many things, Biden making gaffes, law & order, RNC bump etc., nothing really materialized. The Biden campaign obviously shouldn't take anything for granted, but they have every reason to be optimistic.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2020, 03:54:07 PM »

There’s still the debates...if Biden is still up by at least 5 at the end of them, he has this in the bag.

If I were in Trump's shoes, I certainly wouldn't bank on the debates. Joe Biden is pretty good in one-on-one debates. If he confronts Trump similar as he responded the recent story about insulting troops and can still come over as empathetic and caring, he should be absolutely fine. The Trump campaign placed their hopes in so many things, Biden making gaffes, law & order, RNC bump etc., nothing really materialized. The Biden campaign obviously shouldn't take anything for granted, but they have every reason to be optimistic.

Polls indicate that, probably due to Trump/Republican rhetoric, clear majorities of independents and Republicans believe that Trump will beat Biden in the debates, which means that even if Trump does perform well, he isn't really exceeding expectations. Huge mistake on their part; Trump and Republicans' strategy should always be to lower public expectations for him.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2020, 04:20:07 PM »

Garbage poll. Doesn’t take into account Lake Travis bump.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2020, 04:46:18 PM »

There’s still the debates...if Biden is still up by at least 5 at the end of them, he has this in the bag.

If I were in Trump's shoes, I certainly wouldn't bank on the debates. Joe Biden is pretty good in one-on-one debates. If he confronts Trump similar as he responded the recent story about insulting troops and can still come over as empathetic and caring, he should be absolutely fine. The Trump campaign placed their hopes in so many things, Biden making gaffes, law & order, RNC bump etc., nothing really materialized. The Biden campaign obviously shouldn't take anything for granted, but they have every reason to be optimistic.

Polls indicate that, probably due to Trump/Republican rhetoric, clear majorities of independents and Republicans believe that Trump will beat Biden in the debates, which means that even if Trump does perform well, he isn't really exceeding expectations. Huge mistake on their part; Trump and Republicans' strategy should always be to lower public expectations for him.

Yep. And they've lowered expectations for Biden so much that even a fairly average speech/debate performance comes across as an impressive win for him.

Really genius strategy!
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2020, 05:53:15 PM »

Wait until the RNC bounce, then we'll see who's laughing.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2020, 06:14:00 PM »


Isn't the GOP establishment supposed to jettison Trump since he is not turning things around by their labor day deadline? Remember that? Can we not even trust Republicans on this either?
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2020, 06:27:20 PM »


Isn't the GOP establishment supposed to jettison Trump since he is not turning things around by their labor day deadline? Remember that? Can we not even trust Republicans on this either?

Well it's not impossible we'll start seeing Senate candidates in competitive races start to jump ship from here on out, which was really what they were supposedly gonna do. Not actually throw Trump off the ticket, just write him off as a lost cause and begin to distance themselves from him.
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2020, 06:29:06 PM »


Isn't the GOP establishment supposed to jettison Trump since he is not turning things around by their labor day deadline? Remember that? Can we not even trust Republicans on this either?

Well it's not impossible we'll start seeing Senate candidates in competitive races start to jump ship from here on out, which was really what they were supposedly gonna do. Not actually throw Trump off the ticket, just write him off as a lost cause and begin to distance themselves from him.

For most, it is too late for to regain credibility among Biden voters but they have until November 3rd to lose their tenuous credibility with Trump supporters. If they're not smart about how they do this, I'll bet most in competitive races are in for a very rude awakening about just how popular the "mainstream" GOP actually is.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2020, 08:28:47 PM »

This must be the Goya bump, RNC bump, riot bump? Which one is it this time I'm losing track.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2020, 08:39:40 PM »

This must be the Goya bump, RNC bump, riot bump? Which one is it this time I'm losing track.

The Pelosi hair salon bump
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2020, 08:40:03 PM »


Mark my words: he’ll come back to the 2020 board and say Trump didn’t lose, it was an alternative win.
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2020, 08:50:37 PM »


Mark my words: he’ll come back to the 2020 board and say Trump didn’t lose, it was an alternative win.

If he considers a Trump loss an alternative win, good for him. That way both he and the Biden supporters can be happy after the election!
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2020, 09:03:06 PM »


Mark my words: he’ll come back to the 2020 board and say Trump didn’t lose, it was an alternative win.

If he considers a Trump loss an alternative win, good for him. That way both he and the Biden supporters can be happy after the election!

I don’t want him to be happy though.
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2020, 09:08:20 PM »


Mark my words: he’ll come back to the 2020 board and say Trump didn’t lose, it was an alternative win.

If he considers a Trump loss an alternative win, good for him. That way both he and the Biden supporters can be happy after the election!

I don’t want him to be happy though.

Maybe he’ll be less annoying if he’s happier. Wink
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2020, 09:21:55 PM »

There’s still the debates...if Biden is still up by at least 5 at the end of them, he has this in the bag.

I don't know about that. If polls overestimate Biden by one point so that Biden wins the PV by 4, then Trump would still have a chance at the EC.
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