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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2004, 10:06:10 PM »

FICTION:  Al Gore remembers his mother lulling him to sleep as a baby by singing the popular ditty, "Wear The Union Label".

FACT:  The popular ditty was created by the unions when Gore was 27 years old.

My favorite thing Gore said in 2000.
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2004, 06:53:14 AM »

When Gore first ran for president in 1988 I liked him.

I even liked him early in his vice-presidency, despite the fact that I was not a supporter of his boss Clinton.  I thought he did a very good job in his 1993 debate with Ross Perot on NAFTA.

Later on, my opinion soured.  His participation in the Clinton fundraising scandals, his characterization of Clinton as the greatest president ever, and his inexorable move to the left all rubbed me the wrong way.

When his main supporters turned out to be the usual phalanx of Democratic supporters, there was no way I could be on that team.  His elitist and condescending attitude became more apparent, as well as his sense of entitlement.

So by the 2000 election, my opinion of Gore was pretty low.  But since then, the man appears to have gone insane.  I suspect he's drinking or taking some type of drugs.  In one of the speeches he made denouncing President Bush, his ranting reminded me of Adolf Hitler's Nuremberg speech.  It was actually scary to think that this man came so close to being president.  

My opinion of him has definitely gone down since the 2000 election.  At that time, I thought him a credible candidate for president, albeit not the person I would choose.  Now I consider him a nut who must be kept far away from power.
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2004, 01:39:20 AM »

Gore had reinvented himself so many times that he must confuse himself.

1. When he first ran for office, he was a Southern Moderate who was Pro-Life.

2. In 1988 when he ran for President, he ran as a foreign policy HAWK who was the dedicated Cold Warrior that the rest of the Presidential primary rivals were not. He portrayed himself as right wing on foreign policy, moderate on economic issues and suddenly Pro-Choice and left wing on social issues even while his wife was running around trying to ban head rock music....look it up, that's true.

3. In 1992, he becomes Clinton's "third way" butt buddy and parrots Clinton as Vice-Presidential running mate.

4. As a Vice-President, he suddenly starts sounding like an economic liberal populist, then goes from center/left on environmental issues all the way to the farthest of far left, anti-business environmentalism.

5. As a Presidential candidate, he perfects his "Ozone Man" personna while also trying to be Joe Union Man...he begins to look somewhat unhinged, but holds it together.

6. Post-2000, he reinvents himself again as the George McGovern of his time, only he sprinkles his new found Socialist rhetoric with a wholly undeniable personality disorder. Al Gore was once boring, but by 2004, Al Gore behaves like a 1970's Radical left Wing College Professor who snorted one too many lines of Coke. Think of Dennis Kucinich on Crack and you have the 2004 version of Al Gore.

After this many reinventions, one can only reach the following possible conclusions:

1. Al Gore has absolutely no valur or belief system....even worse than Clinton. At least Clinton believed in something....himself.

2. Al Gore is crazier than a sh*thouse rat and should be put in the adjoining rubber room next to Bandit73.
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2004, 02:58:10 AM »

It's actually an interesting phenomenon.  A politician can set his or her position to be anything they want it to be.  Even politicians with a core "value set," such as Reagan, did this intentionally.

Gore's set is paticularly interesting of course.
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2004, 05:11:40 AM »

FICTION:  Al Gore remembers his mother lulling him to sleep as a baby by singing the popular ditty, "Wear The Union Label".

FACT:  The popular ditty was created by the unions when Gore was 27 years old.

My favorite thing Gore said in 2000.

If we are going to go down that line.........

George W. Bush said that his favourite book as a child was "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" which was published the year after he graduated from Yale. - Just if we are going down that road Tongue.

Both of them said these things to gain support.

Just like Tony Blair when he said as a child he used to love going to see Newcastle United play, he said he would sit behind the goal and watch Jackie Milburn who was his favourite player play. This was despite the fact Milburn left Newcastle before Blair was born and seats weren't installed behind the goal until the 1990s I think it was.

Politicians say a lot of things to get the support of people and seem more likeable, they just don't always work.
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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2004, 09:24:10 AM »

Gore had reinvented himself so many times that he must confuse himself.

1. When he first ran for office, he was a Southern Moderate who was Pro-Life.

2. In 1988 when he ran for President, he ran as a foreign policy HAWK who was the dedicated Cold Warrior that the rest of the Presidential primary rivals were not. He portrayed himself as right wing on foreign policy, moderate on economic issues and suddenly Pro-Choice and left wing on social issues even while his wife was running around trying to ban head rock music....look it up, that's true.

3. In 1992, he becomes Clinton's "third way" butt buddy and parrots Clinton as Vice-Presidential running mate.

4. As a Vice-President, he suddenly starts sounding like an economic liberal populist, then goes from center/left on environmental issues all the way to the farthest of far left, anti-business environmentalism.

5. As a Presidential candidate, he perfects his "Ozone Man" personna while also trying to be Joe Union Man...he begins to look somewhat unhinged, but holds it together.

6. Post-2000, he reinvents himself again as the George McGovern of his time, only he sprinkles his new found Socialist rhetoric with a wholly undeniable personality disorder. Al Gore was once boring, but by 2004, Al Gore behaves like a 1970's Radical left Wing College Professor who snorted one too many lines of Coke. Think of Dennis Kucinich on Crack and you have the 2004 version of Al Gore.

After this many reinventions, one can only reach the following possible conclusions:

1. Al Gore has absolutely no valur or belief system....even worse than Clinton. At least Clinton believed in something....himself.

2. Al Gore is crazier than a sh*thouse rat and should be put in the adjoining rubber room next to Bandit73.

That's actually not a bad analysis.
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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2004, 10:30:29 AM »

Definetley Less favorably.
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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2004, 05:21:56 PM »

Al Gore has lost it.  His latest political speeches show a man loosing touch with reality.  His harangues have become almost embarrassing.  I mean, this man was a vice president of the United States!  What's happened to him?
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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2004, 07:57:18 PM »

Al Gore has lost it.  His latest political speeches show a man loosing touch with reality.  His harangues have become almost embarrassing.  I mean, this man was a vice president of the United States!  What's happened to him?

Agreed, Al has morphed from a policy wonk to a rabid partisan.   I thought he had the potential to act as a senior statesman and become a respected advocate for ideas, but he seems to have shrunk to a minor hack.
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« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2004, 10:42:03 PM »

If I was Al Gore, I'd probably commit suicide. He was that close to his dream, he was literally hanging from the edge. It would be so much easier to stomach for him had Bush not driven the country down the sewer.

I think he may really have been this liberal the whole time, he was just masking it for politcal gain, which he had to do. Now, he's just trying to speak his mind like any other American. Let him speak.

My opinion of him hasn't really changed, I always liked him. The beard was dumb though.

In retrospect, one of the main problems with the Gore/Lieberman ticket was that when you combine Tipper's campaign against "punk" rock and that sort of thing with Joe Lieberman's stances on issues of the sort, the campaign didn't recieve the neccessary support from Hollywood that comes in handy for the Democrats.  
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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2004, 10:43:38 PM »

If I was Al Gore, I'd probably commit suicide. He was that close to his dream, he was literally hanging from the edge. It would be so much easier to stomach for him had Bush not driven the country down the sewer.

I think he may really have been this liberal the whole time, he was just masking it for politcal gain, which he had to do. Now, he's just trying to speak his mind like any other American. Let him speak.

My opinion of him hasn't really changed, I always liked him. The beard was dumb though.

In retrospect, one of the main problems with the Gore/Lieberman ticket was that when you combine Tipper's campaign against "punk" rock and that sort of thing with Joe Lieberman's stances on issues of the sort, the campaign didn't recieve the neccessary support from Hollywood that comes in handy for the Democrats.  

This country has been driven down the sewer? This forum gets fair and balanced by the day!
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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2004, 10:50:52 PM »

Who said this forum is "fair and balanced" It's a bunch of political geeks trying in vain to prove how their vision is right and the other is wrong, this isn't a news station.
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« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2004, 10:58:01 PM »

Who said this forum is "fair and balanced" It's a bunch of political geeks trying in vain to prove how their vision is right and the other is wrong, this isn't a news station.

Explain to me how our country has been "driven down the sewer"?
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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2004, 11:07:34 PM »

Well, the trillion dollar deficit isn't exaclty wonderful. Many people in the world regard us as an arrogant bully who does not care what others think.
The environmental policies are extremly one-sided toward businesses and are not helping the environment.
The refusal to allow serious stem-cell research does not bode well for our nations sick.
Funding for our nation's public school's is not at the level that No Child Left Behind perscribe it to be.

Sewer- Here we Come!
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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2004, 11:22:15 PM »

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We are in a war, debt is expected.

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The same world that supported Iraq for years and years with the Oil for PalacesFood program. The French and Russians were never with us from the get go. We have been seen as a bully for years. Though I don't think it matters as our security is number 1 over any "opinion".

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Same old left wing rhetoric. It is pretty much known that Clinton bumped up enviromental policies right before he left office. I dare to ask to see any evidence that the enviroment is suddenly worse now that G.W. Bush is president. This argument is played out and I don't understand why you all stick by it.


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I agree. As long as no embryos(life) are eliminated I have no problem with this research. If it does destroy life then I ask another question. Can we use research from the Nazis even though Jews died during experimentation?

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Again, we are at war, we have to have some give and take.

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It's not that bad.

BTW- What part of MD are you from? I have yet to see one Republican from Maryland.
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« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2004, 07:46:17 AM »

The debt was starting to build up before the war started, however the way accelerated the pace at which the deficit was growing. Now, personally, I think it is more imprtant that we focus on proving the best education for  our own children rather than for Iraqi childre, but thats just me. If we were to not give tax breaks to the wealthy and let companies rip the government off (Halliburton) maybe the government would have more money to fund vitally important programs such as education.

I am from Columbia, which is located in Howard County. it's 30 minutes south of Baltimore and 45 North of DC.
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« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2004, 08:51:39 AM »

Akno:

Welcome to the Forum.

I like your straightforward but not-too-hyper style.

I'm sure we'll have plenty to disagree about.
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« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2004, 08:55:41 AM »

The debt was starting to build up before the war started, however the way accelerated the pace at which the deficit was growing. Now, personally, I think it is more imprtant that we focus on proving the best education for  our own children rather than for Iraqi childre, but thats just me. If we were to not give tax breaks to the wealthy and let companies rip the government off (Halliburton) maybe the government would have more money to fund vitally important programs such as education.

I am from Columbia, which is located in Howard County. it's 30 minutes south of Baltimore and 45 North of DC.

I agree in some sense during a peace time situation. But you must realize we are at war for our lives. Whether it's obvious or not. Tax breaks for the wealthy? Oh them. Yeah I'm poor but I am enjoying my "tax cut for the wealthy". I've benefited more from the Bush tax cuts then the Clinton tax HIKE. I know MD I am from there.
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« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2004, 12:37:43 PM »

I would happily give back my $600 tax cut in order to ensure that education was fully funded, college tution prices didn't skyrocket, gasoline prices didn't skyrocket, and that every elderly person was covered well under Medicare.

In the words of JFK "It is not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
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« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2004, 02:29:01 PM »

I would happily give back my $600 tax cut in order to ensure that education was fully funded, college tution prices didn't skyrocket, gasoline prices didn't skyrocket, and that every elderly person was covered well under Medicare.

In the words of JFK "It is not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."


I'm glad you would rather give your money back to the MafiaIRS. But I for one would like that money which they have no right to in the first place in my pocket where it belongs. Education is a ongoing issue and Clinton didn't do enough about it and Bush is trying to do something about it by holding schools accountable. Medicare is good enough. I personally would like to see it slightly downsized but its pretty adequate right now. I will do what I can for my country once the IRS is done away with.
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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2004, 03:31:33 PM »

True, the IRS isn't exaclty fair and perfect. But that is besides the point. When you get sick and need Medicare, maybe then you will realize why it must be expanded and improved, people shoudl never have to choose between food and medicine.

NCLB increases standards but doesn't increase funding. Brilliant! Many states, including Texas, have made passing scores lower, so students will pass and the state won't be penalized. NCLB is like the tax cuts, help the well-off, hurt the needy.  
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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2004, 05:30:29 PM »

Akno:

Welcome to the Forum.

I like your straightforward but not-too-hyper style.

I'm sure we'll have plenty to disagree about.

Thanks, i've been looking for a place like this.
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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2004, 05:31:22 PM »

If I was Al Gore, I'd probably commit suicide.


But that would have made the rest of your post irrelevent.

No, it doesn't. Because I made a radical statement, i feel the need to back it up with reasons.
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« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2004, 08:35:42 PM »

True, the IRS isn't exaclty fair and perfect. But that is besides the point. When you get sick and need Medicare, maybe then you will realize why it must be expanded and improved, people shoudl never have to choose between food and medicine.

NCLB increases standards but doesn't increase funding. Brilliant! Many states, including Texas, have made passing scores lower, so students will pass and the state won't be penalized. NCLB is like the tax cuts, help the well-off, hurt the needy.  

If we had National Health Care that was not completely free but 80/20 that would be the best. ( I may have to bump my national Healthcare idea again ). A completely free system would bankrupt this country because to many leeches would be taking advantage of it. Again, the tax cuts helped my but I'm not rich!
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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2004, 09:58:36 PM »

True, the IRS isn't exaclty fair and perfect. But that is besides the point. When you get sick and need Medicare, maybe then you will realize why it must be expanded and improved, people shoudl never have to choose between food and medicine.

NCLB increases standards but doesn't increase funding. Brilliant! Many states, including Texas, have made passing scores lower, so students will pass and the state won't be penalized. NCLB is like the tax cuts, help the well-off, hurt the needy.  

If we had National Health Care that was not completely free but 80/20 that would be the best. ( I may have to bump my national Healthcare idea again ). A completely free system would bankrupt this country because to many leeches would be taking advantage of it. Again, the tax cuts helped my but I'm not rich!

80/20 Health Care would not be terrible.
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