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warandwar
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« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2021, 11:14:23 PM »

Democrats will need to pivot hard, nationally, to be tough on crime after this. Even their base voters in the Bronx are sick of the "defund" nonsense. Electoral disaster in 2022 awaits otherwise.
Lunatic take from these results - generic wfp progressives with no details given defund stances are crushing it.
Conservative greivance politics did not work in the council races anywhere. Adams won because hes put in work in the community for decades - no other candidate could say the same.

And meanwhile in Rochester... chanting  12 at a victory party. I love it Smiley https://twitter.com/WillCleveland13/status/1407541088169213953?s=20
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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2021, 11:15:42 PM »

Democrats will need to pivot hard, nationally, to be tough on crime after this. Even their base voters in the Bronx are sick of the "defund" nonsense. Electoral disaster in 2022 awaits otherwise.
Buffalo and Rochester Mayoral primary results suggest otherwise. Two powerhouse NY Dem. Party Mayors, very "tough on crime" and business-friendly, just collapsed to Democratic Socialist candidates.

The need for Biden Democrats is a purple state issue - not a blue state issue. Stop fearing the paper tiger.

Is Malik Evans DSA aligned? I'm not finding that information anywhere online.
No, just wfp. Dsa endorsed candidates are getting 2-3 seats on the Rochester city council - a very good result.
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« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2021, 11:17:30 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2021, 11:21:26 PM by warandwar »

I predicted an Adams win in January 2020 on AAD, way before any of this "crime" bullsh**t. Lief has been spamming reddit takes about Yang's supposedly insurmountable lead for months. You dont need to buy into facile media spin in order to see the unique potential of Adams' candidacy. Dig deeper.
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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2021, 09:55:52 AM »

Adams won because hes put in work in the community for decades - no other candidate could say the same.

This isn't at odds with Lief's story. Adams took a different line on police reform both because he had enough grassroots support of his own that there was no need to pander to radical activists and because, compared to his competitors, he was uniquely in touch with how the crime wave is affecting people who can't avoid the streets or the subway.
https://twitter.com/__seab/status/1407698963764068355?s=20
Not pandering here? C'mon!
Eric Adams has pandered to radical activists his whole life - that's why he was hanging with the Nation in the 90s and why he endorsed Bernie in 2016. It's just a different set/age group of them.
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« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2021, 09:57:25 AM »

I've only been passively following this race, but I've seen some references to Yang support among Orthodox Jewish communities. Is there a backstory here that I missed?

Ultra-Orthodox specifically. Yang supported the city largely letting them run their yeshivas without any educational content. Other candidates (except Adams) were more mixed or ignored the issue (because they know the yeshivas should be required to teach subjects like math, English and history morally and are actually required to do so under the law but don't want to anger the ultra-Orthodox).
Adams beat Yang in many Orthodox communities. Another example of people holding on to assumptions from a few months ago and not noticing the reality on the ground.
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« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2021, 09:58:53 AM »

Wonderful to see the totally deranged NIMBY Hollingsworth lose in my city council district (Brooklyn 35).
Oh you live in my district, wonderful. I will meet you behind the Brooklyn Museum to defend Mike's honor.
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« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2021, 10:00:00 AM »

I've only been passively following this race, but I've seen some references to Yang support among Orthodox Jewish communities. Is there a backstory here that I missed?

Ultra-Orthodox specifically. Yang supported the city largely letting them run their yeshivas without any educational content. Other candidates (except Adams) were more mixed or ignored the issue (because they know the yeshivas should be required to teach subjects like math, English and history morally and are actually required to do so under the law but don't want to anger the ultra-Orthodox).
Adams beat Yang in many Orthodox communities. Another example of people holding on to assumptions from a few months ago and not noticing the reality on the ground.

Adams won in Orthodox but not ultra-Orthodox areas. Yang won all of the ultra-Orthodox communities except the Crown Heights one, which has long ties to Adams.
Adams won Far Rock, Midwood, Flatbush, Kew Gardens, 1/3rd of Satmar Wburg.
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« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2021, 09:00:17 AM »

I've only been passively following this race, but I've seen some references to Yang support among Orthodox Jewish communities. Is there a backstory here that I missed?

Ultra-Orthodox specifically. Yang supported the city largely letting them run their yeshivas without any educational content. Other candidates (except Adams) were more mixed or ignored the issue (because they know the yeshivas should be required to teach subjects like math, English and history morally and are actually required to do so under the law but don't want to anger the ultra-Orthodox).
Adams beat Yang in many Orthodox communities. Another example of people holding on to assumptions from a few months ago and not noticing the reality on the ground.

Adams won in Orthodox but not ultra-Orthodox areas. Yang won all of the ultra-Orthodox communities except the Crown Heights one, which has long ties to Adams.
Adams won Far Rock, Midwood, Flatbush, Kew Gardens, 1/3rd of Satmar Wburg.

Midwood and Flatbush are Orthodox but not ultra-Orthodox areas so prove my point. Yang won Kew Gardens Hills (the ultra-Orthodox enclave; Kew Gardens proper is not very Orthodox at all), though not by a huge margin and there seems to have been a divide where some precincts did vote Adams, generally was close in every precinct. Agree Adams won the ultra-Orthodox enclave in Far Rockaway, which is pretty small. Adams didn't win any precincts in the Satmar parts of Williamsburg, though he did get some votes (much less than 1/3 - more like 20%). I wasn't contending that Adams didn't win any ultra-Orthodox votes, just that he was the clear minority vote-getter among ultra-Orthodox.
Orthodox/ultea-orthodox is not a meaningful distinction. Hasidish/Yeshivish is a more proper distinction, but both communities contain overlap with ModOx. They are all frum, which is probably the best word to describe them.
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« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2021, 06:25:38 AM »

No they don’t, they have endorsed Greens in Maryland and California before just fine with little work.
Let me put this as simply as I can: this policy exists and it is why the NYC DSA has not endorsed Cathy Rojas in the NYC mayoral election, which is the election this thread is about. Whether they endorsed a Green candidate in Maryland or whatever several years ago is irrelevant — the policy exists and explains their endorsement decision in this race.

I believe this is the first Union endorsement


This is not a "union endorsement," it is an endorsement by a person who happens to be a member of a union. TWU Local 100 has endorsed Adams.
I think she's the highest ranking person in twu 100 fightback so it's actually not a bad get.
Like the primary, I'll write in my buddy.
I'm looking forward to the debate
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