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« on: August 25, 2020, 02:03:16 PM »

In light of its recent ... intriguing invocation in Kansan politics.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2020, 02:09:36 PM »

That kid is a perv.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2020, 02:52:43 PM »

No opinion, while I haven’t heard about the event in Kansas, I can’t exactly give an opinion to an extinct Christian sect from a scantly detailed Wikipedia article.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2020, 05:29:45 PM »

Wasn't on my bingo card.

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2020, 07:33:23 PM »

Does this make Trump an Augustinian?
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2020, 03:44:38 AM »

Heresy = HP
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2020, 06:30:52 PM »


This, but I'm impressed a nineteen-year-old managed to use the word "Donatism" as close to correctly as he did.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2020, 04:07:36 AM »
« Edited: September 04, 2020, 07:49:31 AM by 𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆 »


This, but I'm impressed a nineteen-year-old managed to use the word "Donatism" as close to correctly as he did.

Well, the tweet where he used it was literally copied word for word from a post left by another person on his Facebook page a couple days prior.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2020, 10:12:38 AM »

No opinion, while I haven’t heard about the event in Kansas, I can’t exactly give an opinion to an extinct Christian sect from a scantly detailed Wikipedia article.

Short version on Donatism is that during the Great Persecution a lot of Christian leaders, trying to avoid dying themselves, officially recanted or even handed over Christian holy texts to be burned. (Leading to the word traditor = "one who handed it over," which literally becomes our word traitor) After the Great Persecution, the Church welcomed back in all these backsliders and traditors and let them have their old jobs back. Donatus and his followers argued that anyone who ever backslid and recanted Christianity should be barred forever from holding jobs in Church hierarchy and that anyone they appointed to Church jobs is illegitimate and anyone THEY appointed to Church jobs is illegitimate and etc. and argued that the entire hierarchy of the Church needed to be thrown out and replaced by people who had never given in. It lasted as a movement about 300 years especially in North Africa, rejecting the officeholders of the Church as illegitimate because they had been appointed by people appointed by people appointed by etc etc etc appointed by traditors.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2020, 11:39:48 AM »

No opinion, while I haven’t heard about the event in Kansas, I can’t exactly give an opinion to an extinct Christian sect from a scantly detailed Wikipedia article.

Short version on Donatism is that during the Great Persecution a lot of Christian leaders, trying to avoid dying themselves, officially recanted or even handed over Christian holy texts to be burned. (Leading to the word traditor = "one who handed it over," which literally becomes our word traitor) After the Great Persecution, the Church welcomed back in all these backsliders and traditors and let them have their old jobs back. Donatus and his followers argued that anyone who ever backslid and recanted Christianity should be barred forever from holding jobs in Church hierarchy and that anyone they appointed to Church jobs is illegitimate and anyone THEY appointed to Church jobs is illegitimate and etc. and argued that the entire hierarchy of the Church needed to be thrown out and replaced by people who had never given in. It lasted as a movement about 300 years especially in North Africa, rejecting the officeholders of the Church as illegitimate because they had been appointed by people appointed by people appointed by etc etc etc appointed by traditors.

Yep. More generally Donatism is the theological position that the legitimacy of a religious office is vitiated by the personal immorality of the officeholder. In Christianity it's a heretical position, but nowadays more than ever it's easy to understand its appeal.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2020, 11:37:31 PM »

     Negative, because it effectively denies the central role of grace in the life of the faithful, and makes the work of God's ministers a matter of their own righteousness rather than of God's righteousness working through them.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2020, 12:10:18 PM »

Mmmmmm. Donats. (drools)
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