London Borough Elections 2006

[afleitch]

Harold Hill

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Harold Hill

You like BNP success?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

There are rumours that some LibDem councillers in Islington might cross the floor to Labour.

[afleitch]

Harold Hill

You like BNP success?

No-  It's swung Conservative according to your map. One BNP councillor it seems- but thats not why I like the result.

[Democratic Hawk]

There are rumours that some LibDem councillers in Islington might cross the floor to Labour.

Now those are the kind of rumours one likes to be true

Dave

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Harold Hill Estate in Havering.

Yes, I know that.

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Have a closer look at Gooshays ward, then you'll see what I mean. The BNP candidate topped the poll there.
It nearly split three ways (one vote in it). Tory vote was up a little bit in the estate, but not much. Labour nearly hung onto the second seat in the other Harold Hill ward (which must be down to Keith Darvill's personal vote).

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Just checked, and Labour beat Respect by the equivilent of about 3,000 votes (ie; it was actually 9,000 but I divided the figures by three as there's three candidates per ward) in Bethnal Green & Bow.

Now to make those figures even better; Respect only polled the equivilent of about 7,000 votes in Bethnal Green & Bow...

[Democratic Hawk]

Ben ,

I first looked again at the conservatives when I realised they where human beings , I remember when I was working during the election meeting conservatives and realising that they where all decent, hard working people who didn’t want to tear down the NHS, round up asylum seekers, dismantle state education and bring back the poor laws.

That's reassuring to know

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Empowering individuals is a central theme to my approach in Atlasia and I'm center-left . It would be the same for real

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Past Conservative excesses are responsible for their own demonising. New Labour do not tax punitively. Those days are over . Labour might have inherited a good economy and, more importantly, kept in that way but they inherited a decaying infrastructure, which takes time and quite a lot of investment to put right; though their is too much bureaucracy

All people want are good schools for their kids to attend and good healthcare without waiting an age to get it

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Yes, "tribalism" has informed my politics and they square up with my own communitarian beliefs pretty well; hence, no reason to change my party allegiance. And the social trauma of the 1980s has left its scars

Dave

[afleitch]

Respect to contest Tower Hamlets result allegedly. No idea if this is old news.

[Harry Hayfield]

 
I think this is accurate; I have some doubts about Kingston (had to get the results off a local newspaper website) and one ward in Barking is disputed.

Some interesting patterns aren't there?

I am currently tallying up London (Bexley, Camden and Greenwich complete) and would like to know how do I calculate % votes in multimember wards?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Respect to contest Tower Hamlets result allegedly. No idea if this is old news.

Presumably the result in St Katherines & Wapping where their candidates f***ed their nomination papers and were (rightly) disqualified? Legal precedent is strongly, strongly on the side of Tower Hamlets LBC on that case and I think there's only the House of Lords to appeal to now.
It's not a ward they'd have a hope in hell of winning in anyway; they might have given another seat to the Tories, but that's about it.

I believe they are also complaining about fraud in the Limehouse ward; one problem. They took two out of three seats there, but, were (I think) slightly behind Labour in terms of average vote there. The winning Labour candidate (who IIRC topped the poll) would have got in anyway.

Essentially this is just Galloway being a sore loser; no matter what he says Labour were the clear winners in Tower Hamlets last week. We clearly won the most seats and were miles ahead in the popular vote (especially in Bethnal Green & Bow...). I don't doubt that there was fraud, but I don't doubt that no party had a monopoly on it (the very high raw Respect votes in Shadwell are just as fishy as the results in any other ward). What made the difference this time round is the fact that the Bangladeshi community was split down the middle; a lot of people have been upset at the way Galloway has behaved since his election... as an example I don't doubt that Labour's good result in Spitalfields was down in part to the fact that it contains the Aldgate East tube station...

Respect thought that they owned the Muslim vote in the East End (as was shown by the way they tried to force Rees on Whitechapel; local bigwigs objected and he had to run in Bethnal Green South instead. I don't think a single Trot got elected actually). It's clear now that they don't, and not only that, it's clear that they don't understand them either.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I am currently tallying up London (Bexley, Camden and Greenwich complete) and would like to know how do I calculate % votes in multimember wards?

There are two ways of doing it, and it all comes down to whether or not you believe in the existence of personal votes.

If you do, work out the mean average of all the candidates of a given party in the ward, if you don't just use the candidates of each party with the highest vote.

[afleitch]

I don't think a single Trot got elected actually). It's clear now that they don't, and not only that, it's clear that they don't understand them either.

Thats correct, and the SWP must be fuming. I can't see Respect lasting much longer. The SWP sold out to what amounts to a socially conservative agenda (though Respect do their best not to talk about it as arguments can arise, sucha s the grudging inclusion of gay rights as a motion after it had been ignored) and are now suffering the consequences of being a meber of what is in effect a Muslim party. You couldn't put a paper between their economic policy and the economic policy of the BNP. They are two peas in the same pod though both would be loathed to admit it.

[Democratic Hawk]

I just hope "Dis-Respect" (meow ) fade into oblivion. What with that not so Gorgeous George having a penchant for brown nosing Saddam's arse. He's a disgrace

Dave

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I'm not entirely sure what to say about this...

BNP counciller "directed Gay Porn film"

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[afleitch]

I'm not entirely sure what to say about this...

BNP counciller "directed Gay Porn film"

...

'It's not porn-its art'

That old chestnut To be fair to the BNP scumbag, at least he didn't go on a homophobic diatribe.

[Harry Hayfield]

Can someone post the results for Brent in way that is simple. I'm trying to copy and paste the results into Word and am getting into a terrible mess!

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Rumour is that in Brent the Tories will prop up a minority Labour administration in return for getting to chair all the powerful committees. Relations between the Brent LibDems and Brent Tories are very bad apparently.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

And now the Average Vote % map for 2006...



Will also be making a gain/loss map from the 2004 GLA list elections and a % Labour vote map. And some maps of smaller areas...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

...and now for the % Labour vote map..



Some patterns predictable, some quite suprising.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

In case ye missed this...

"Three of the BNP's new councillors in Barking and Dagenham have been
taken to court for owing thousands of pounds in rent and council tax.

The local authority has secured county court judgments against two, a
third is being threatened with bailiffs, and a fourth is involved in a
council probe into a potential £10,000 housing benefit fraud.

The disclosures will be hugely embarrassing to the racist party, which
has claimed ethnic minorities and asylum seekers are being given a
"free ride" by "suffering council-tax payers". "

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Oh and Respect have lodged their petitions about certain wards in Tower Hamlets. Can't recall which (the list did seem to be ever-changing...) although obviously one was St Katherine's & Wapping.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

As a sort of post script, this be a summary of all the administrations in London... several coalitions are a little suprising and one is already very controversial...

Barking & Dagenham: Labour
Barnet: Tory
Bexley: Tory
Brent: apparently a Tory/LDem coalition has been formed. Early on it looked like there might be a minority Labour administration.
Bromley: Tory
Camden: LDem minority
Croydon: Tory
Ealing: Tory
Enfield: Tory
Greenwich: Labour
Hackney: Labour Mayor, Labour majority on council
Hammersmith & Fulham: Tory
Haringey: Labour
Harrow: Tory
Havering: Tory
Hillingdon: Tory
Hounslow: Tory/Fascist coalition*
Islington: LDem minority (things are so tight that if a LibDem cllr. resigns at any point, all hell breaks loose...)
Kensington & Chelsea: Tory
Lambeth: Labour
Lewisham: Labour Mayor; no majority on council, but effective Labour control**
Merton: Tory minority (in practice the weakest administration in London)
Newham: Labour Mayor, Labour majority on council
Redbridge: Tory
Southwark: LDem/Tory coalition
Sutton: LDem
Waltham Forest: Labour minority
Wandsworth: Tory
Westminster: Tory

* Tories are in coalition with a group of Indies led by an interesting fellow called Phil Andrews. Cllr Andrews is a former Parliamentary candidate for the National Front, a known Holocaust denier, and spent time in jail for assaulting a black police officer. This charming man is now in charge of Housing and Community Safety in a borough with a very high minority population...
** If a Mayor's party has more than one third of seats in a Mayoral authority, it basically can't lose votes.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Oh and Respect have lodged their petitions about certain wards in Tower Hamlets. Can't recall which (the list did seem to be ever-changing...) although obviously one was St Katherine's & Wapping.

And these petitions have been dismissed by the Court. Respect are not happy.

By the sound of it, further investigations will go on into a couple of wards in the New Year.

[Silent Hunter]

BTW, Labour almost got wiped out in Havering. We're down to 2 councillors.