NPC Elections - Commentary Thread

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Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

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Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

Ask your party chair why he doesn't have D-Oregon?

ooh, look at me, whataboutism, I'm so smart!

Because chances are he might not be a Democrat. Come to Portland and you'll understand what I'm talking about. 

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Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

Ask your party chair why he doesn't have D-Oregon?

ooh, look at me, whataboutism, I'm so smart!

Because chances are he might not be a Democrat. Come to Portland and you'll understand what I'm talking about. 

This, in big cities, many progressives are often not registered Democrats or even if they are, they don’t identify with the party. These people are hardcore liberals in ideology, but often view the more moderate wing of the Democratic Party, which dominates the current party as too moderate, Nancy Pelosi is the only party leadership figure who genuinely aligns with their values.

You two have jobs to be doing.

And we are doing them. We in Fremont have passed several bills reforming everything from criminal justice to environmental policy to feeding our citizens, while you propose a frivolous bill on alcohol designed specifically to trigger the good Speaker from New Jersey.

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If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

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If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

It isn't about lowering the drinking age, what about the open container laws that you know are in the bill.

So alcohol citations are why Ahmaud Arbery and so many others are victims of police brutality. Got it.

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If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

I don't know why this theory of yours has gained traction in your head, but its ridiculous. Its a bill that S019 clearly doesn't like. You are allowed to write legislation that S019 doesn't like. Sorry.

You are allowed to write bills S019 doesn't like - hell, we do it in Labor all the time. But it's bad faith to write a bill S019 doesn't like for the sole purpose of annoying him. That's not called serving the people of Lincoln, it's called passing reform with little impact as an excuse to piss off someone you don't like. Anyone with half a brain cell can see that.

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If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

I don't know why this theory of yours has gained traction in your head, but its ridiculous. Its a bill that S019 clearly doesn't like. You are allowed to write legislation that S019 doesn't like. Sorry.

You are allowed to write bills S019 doesn't like - hell, we do it in Labor all the time. But it's bad faith to write a bill S019 doesn't like for the sole purpose of annoying him. That's not called serving the people of Lincoln, it's called passing reform with little impact as an excuse to piss off someone you don't like. Anyone with half a brain cell can see that.

But there is no evidence of that, because it isn't true. So its a moot point.

> S019's archaic views on moral issues are well known, as is the antagonism between you two

> Upon entering Council, you sponsor a bill that would clearly anger him and/or make him say things that could be used against Labor.

It's simple logic. And you know it.

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If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

I don't know why this theory of yours has gained traction in your head, but its ridiculous. Its a bill that S019 clearly doesn't like. You are allowed to write legislation that S019 doesn't like. Sorry.

You are allowed to write bills S019 doesn't like - hell, we do it in Labor all the time. But it's bad faith to write a bill S019 doesn't like for the sole purpose of annoying him. That's not called serving the people of Lincoln, it's called passing reform with little impact as an excuse to piss off someone you don't like. Anyone with half a brain cell can see that.

But there is no evidence of that, because it isn't true. So its a moot point.

> S019's archaic views on moral issues are well known, as is the antagonism between you two

> Upon entering Council, you sponsor a bill that would clearly anger him and/or make him say things that could be used against Labor.

It's simple logic. And you know it.

Correlation is not causation. I did not sponsor the bill because S019 doesn't like it. I sponsored because I like it and I believe that it would be a good thing for it to pass. You're making this up because DA bad. Please stop lying to everyone. This is a waste of time, so I'm not responding to this anymore.

Coming from the founder of a party that essentially boils down to "Labor bad", this means nothing. I'll change my tune when the DA actually starts backing meaningful legislation instead of baiting Labor members on non-issues.

If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

It isn't about lowering the drinking age, what about the open container laws that you know are in the bill.

So alcohol citations are why Ahmaud Arbery and so many others are victims of police brutality. Got it.

No, but open container laws are a excuse for police officers to search and question young people of color, and minority groups are more likely to get ticketed then whites.

So we should get rid of all laws then, because police officers can discriminate against minorities on the basis of a wide range of laws. Good to know.

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Speech in Ponce, Puerto Rico alongside the Federalist candidate for Governor

Hello people of Ponce! I'm proud to be here because communities here have recovered well from the hurricanes we faced back in 2017 while the Federalist Party was at the helm nationally with the White House, the People's House of Representatives, and full control of the Southern regional government. This is due to legislation passed such as the Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding, and Tsunami Prevention Act of 2017, the Natural Disaster Relief Fund Act, the Hurricane Florence Relief Act, and last but not least, the Harvey Aid Relief Act, which was the first piece of legislation I have ever written back in 2017. These examples are real proof that our principles involve caring about all Atlasians, especially Puerto Ricans through acting on policy. A Federalist government in Puerto Rico will move past Labor's offensive and condescending smear tactics which won't work because we know that we have a real responsible alternative option to choose from. The Federalist Party is also the party of the family. We know that this state especially cares deeply for Catholic values, as they are the backbone of the Federalist base. This is why a Federalist government will be sure to do as much as we can to limit the cruel practice of abortion from happening here on this island. We also believe in people helping out those in need in our communities by fighting hunger and homelessness with a focus on making them hands up rather than permanent handouts. Labor depends on having a permanent underclass so they can make empty promises to the most desperate. Our policies will lead to much stronger economic growth and prosperity here which will accomplish much more for all walks of life. This makes it evident that Federalist Values are much more rooted in the values of Puerto Rico rather than the Portland Values of Labor, Greens, or even Democratic Alliance. Thank you very much and please don't forget to vote for your Federalist candidates for the state legislature and governor!

Lol "Portland Values"

Tbh I'm not even sure how many people in Puerto Rico know that much about a medium-sized city 2,500 miles away but ok

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Speech in Ponce, Puerto Rico alongside the Federalist candidate for Governor

Hello people of Ponce! I'm proud to be here because communities here have recovered well from the hurricanes we faced back in 2017 while the Federalist Party was at the helm nationally with the White House, the People's House of Representatives, and full control of the Southern regional government. This is due to legislation passed such as the Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding, and Tsunami Prevention Act of 2017, the Natural Disaster Relief Fund Act, the Hurricane Florence Relief Act, and last but not least, the Harvey Aid Relief Act, which was the first piece of legislation I have ever written back in 2017. These examples are real proof that our principles involve caring about all Atlasians, especially Puerto Ricans through acting on policy. A Federalist government in Puerto Rico will move past Labor's offensive and condescending smear tactics which won't work because we know that we have a real responsible alternative option to choose from. The Federalist Party is also the party of the family. We know that this state especially cares deeply for Catholic values, as they are the backbone of the Federalist base. This is why a Federalist government will be sure to do as much as we can to limit the cruel practice of abortion from happening here on this island. We also believe in people helping out those in need in our communities by fighting hunger and homelessness with a focus on making them hands up rather than permanent handouts. Labor depends on having a permanent underclass so they can make empty promises to the most desperate. Our policies will lead to much stronger economic growth and prosperity here which will accomplish much more for all walks of life. This makes it evident that Federalist Values are much more rooted in the values of Puerto Rico rather than the Portland Values of Labor, Greens, or even Democratic Alliance. Thank you very much and please don't forget to vote for your Federalist candidates for the state legislature and governor!

Lol "Portland Values"

Tbh I'm not even sure how many people in Puerto Rico know that much about a medium-sized city 2,500 miles away but ok

I mean it is the city where the Labor Governor of the South is from, and it's been in the news plenty lately, so it's a pretty solid attack line imo.

Okay, I guess? I'm not sure if in-game MB's 'officially' from Portland, but I'm not familiar with exactly how residency works in this game.

My point stands though.

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Speech in Ponce, Puerto Rico alongside the Federalist candidate for Governor

Hello people of Ponce! I'm proud to be here because communities here have recovered well from the hurricanes we faced back in 2017 while the Federalist Party was at the helm nationally with the White House, the People's House of Representatives, and full control of the Southern regional government. This is due to legislation passed such as the Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding, and Tsunami Prevention Act of 2017, the Natural Disaster Relief Fund Act, the Hurricane Florence Relief Act, and last but not least, the Harvey Aid Relief Act, which was the first piece of legislation I have ever written back in 2017. These examples are real proof that our principles involve caring about all Atlasians, especially Puerto Ricans through acting on policy. A Federalist government in Puerto Rico will move past Labor's offensive and condescending smear tactics which won't work because we know that we have a real responsible alternative option to choose from. The Federalist Party is also the party of the family. We know that this state especially cares deeply for Catholic values, as they are the backbone of the Federalist base. This is why a Federalist government will be sure to do as much as we can to limit the cruel practice of abortion from happening here on this island. We also believe in people helping out those in need in our communities by fighting hunger and homelessness with a focus on making them hands up rather than permanent handouts. Labor depends on having a permanent underclass so they can make empty promises to the most desperate. Our policies will lead to much stronger economic growth and prosperity here which will accomplish much more for all walks of life. This makes it evident that Federalist Values are much more rooted in the values of Puerto Rico rather than the Portland Values of Labor, Greens, or even Democratic Alliance. Thank you very much and please don't forget to vote for your Federalist candidates for the state legislature and governor!

Lol "Portland Values"

Tbh I'm not even sure how many people in Puerto Rico know that much about a medium-sized city 2,500 miles away but ok

I mean it is the city where the Labor Governor of the South is from, and it's been in the news plenty lately, so it's a pretty solid attack line imo.

Okay, I guess? I'm not sure if in-game MB's 'officially' from Portland, but I'm not familiar with exactly how residency works in this game.

My point stands though.

He was registered in Oregon before.

I'm aware.

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bumping this thread for commentary of NPC elections and avoid disrupting a party's campaign thread.

Thanks!

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Lastly, with worsening climate change, we'll create detailed, comprehensive plans for hurricane response - as Hurricane Harvey showed, Texas needs more disaster preparedness plans. 

Not a big thing in the grand scheme of things, but just a reminder that Harvey actually hit Florida in-game, not Texas.

EDIT: link here

Ack! I'll edit that, thanks for catching this!

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The fact is that every true Nebraskan knows there are two choices in this election. The Labor party is the party of the farmers and self-government; the opposition is the party of centralism and Eastern interests.

There are a number of so-called conservative carpetbaggers who have come out here in recent days expecting easy votes. Well, they are about to find out that Nebraskans have more sense than to be taken in by a lot of Eastern imperialists.

Poirot was the only one who campaigned in Nebraska other then you and he isn't a centralist by any means.

Scott and I would like a word.

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Lol

If you want go to Nebraska and call him out. Though I suspect low-quality three-line campaigning won't do as much when you don't have a homestate advantage.

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The fact is that every true Nebraskan knows there are two choices in this election. The Labor party is the party of the farmers and self-government; the opposition is the party of centralism and Eastern interests.

There are a number of so-called conservative carpetbaggers who have come out here in recent days expecting easy votes. Well, they are about to find out that Nebraskans have more sense than to be taken in by a lot of Eastern imperialists.

Poirot was the only one who campaigned in Nebraska other then you and he isn't a centralist by any means.

Poirot had a conservative voting record in the House so Truman isn't wrong. Honestly I'm sick of this Poirot worship, just because he runs a lot doesn't mean he should win.

A decent amount of votes are from older people in game who are friends with him which include your former running mate.

Nobody worships him, there is a more likely chance that people worship Labor.

Centralism according to  Merriam Webster is "the concentration of power and control in the central authority of an organization". Poirot doesn't support that and historically, he was targeted by centralists/radicals like Al Realpolitik.

It also can refer to the political center, i.e. a layman's term to describe one who supports milquetoast policies.  I doubt anyone in Nebraska gives a hoot about your dictionary citations.

Poirot supports single payer nationally something most of the left which a run of a mill centrist doesn't support and holds many leftist positions as well so he isn't a generic centrist.

I agree with much of the response about what centralist but centralist in this game means more power to the federal government, not the regional governments.

After today (today morning), I'm moving on from this issue.

Wait, you can actually talk about policy?

Funny, I couldn't tell that from your NPC campaigns. Maybe try discussing policy there instead of here, where it doesn't count.

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As is tradition now, here's the new batch of counties for the county map. Just one more round of elections till this bad boy is finished.

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DA Plurality and Liberal majority are almost the same.

Well, you're both shades of blue, so I really didn't know what to do. If it helps, it should be clear from context which are DA and which are Liberal (though if you two ever get into a competitive race in a state my life would become more difficult).

EDIT: Oh wait misread. Lemme think about that.

EDIT#2: I'll change the color.

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Ad in Oregon/Nevada

This literally just amplifies Labor's message, it's not even critical. It even says in big font "vote for labor"

VOTERS WHO WANT A GOOD GO**AMMED STORY FOR LABOR!!!!11!!!

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So things have been getting a bit heated, anyone up to revive the debate idea?

I would volunteer to represent Labor but I've been absolutely swamped by IRL stuff, so... :/

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They are insensitive and hurtful towards racial minorities

Deadprez is black and I think the only black person in the game and he's on the House slate.
Cao is Malaysian and is on their house slate.

So?

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On the Cao-Dave ad, it stipulates that Cao approved the message, but I haven't seen confirmation on that. Is it actually true that Cao approves that message?

Judging by the fact that Cao posted the same ad word-for-word on his office thread, I'd say yes.

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For clarification purposes, perfectly sensible local public transportation projects - such as light rail, which has revolutionized public transportation in my home city of Portland - are not what Labor refers to as "pork barrel rail". Rather, "pork barrel rail" is the 100x more expensive HSR line that Democrat Alliance members proposed to build 500 miles of in the West Texas desert. This has been misconstrued multiple times on the campaign trail so here I am to clear this up - once again.

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On a somewhat unrelated note, here's an ongoing project - a map of every NPC campaign. Hopefully this can be used in the open commentary period to observe activity levels across months and provide a visualization of what party strategies actually worked.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=10aVYiX4SSta_mpYLFnlnBE8oDXL4fojK&ll=31.57355524337504%2C-135.36516511213216&z=3