NPC Elections - Commentary Thread

[Dr. MB]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

[Continential]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

[OBD]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

[Continential]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

Ask your party chair why he doesn't have D-Oregon?

[OBD]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

Ask your party chair why he doesn't have D-Oregon?

ooh, look at me, whataboutism, I'm so smart!

Because chances are he might not be a Democrat. Come to Portland and you'll understand what I'm talking about. 

[S019]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

Ask your party chair why he doesn't have D-Oregon?

ooh, look at me, whataboutism, I'm so smart!

Because chances are he might not be a Democrat. Come to Portland and you'll understand what I'm talking about. 

This, in big cities, many progressives are often not registered Democrats or even if they are, they don’t identify with the party. These people are hardcore liberals in ideology, but often view the more moderate wing of the Democratic Party, which dominates the current party as too moderate, Nancy Pelosi is the only party leadership figure who genuinely aligns with their values.

[Continential]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

Ask your party chair why he doesn't have D-Oregon?

ooh, look at me, whataboutism, I'm so smart!

Because chances are he might not be a Democrat. Come to Portland and you'll understand what I'm talking about. 

Also, I'm not exactly a straight Democrat, I support Hawkins if I could vote and didn't live in a swing state and I'd support a left wing third party candidate against Casey if he was leading well.

[Lumine]

As it's been noted elsewhere, several campaign threads have been flooded with comments, and leaving aside the whole "changing the subject" issue, it actually makes it a bit harder to mark the events quickly.

Consider this thread as your vehicle to comment, vent, make predictions and so on.

[tmthforu94]

The DA's Southern delegate voted for looser social distancing than the federal standards, which is why the administration has to step in and enforce our tough, safe standards over the regional ones.

Call me by my name. You know this is a bogus attack, Pericles. I initially authored a version that was even stricter than your guidelines (which you also criticized) but those were shot down by Labor AND Federalist delegates. As I've stated before, I only voted for the final version because I believed we needed to give the schools some sort of guidelines since it wasn't clear how enforceable your statement was - this was better than nothing at all, no restrictions.

We spoke on this three days ago where I privately reached out to you and expressed my displeasure with the Chamber taking a looser approach. I also encouraged you to take federal action via Executive Order to give teeth to your previous statement, which I haven't seen yet. You have ability to step in and do something here, you should do that instead of trying to attack me.

[Sirius_]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

Ask your party chair why he doesn't have D-Oregon?

ooh, look at me, whataboutism, I'm so smart!

Because chances are he might not be a Democrat. Come to Portland and you'll understand what I'm talking about. 

This, in big cities, many progressives are often not registered Democrats or even if they are, they don’t identify with the party. These people are hardcore liberals in ideology, but often view the more moderate wing of the Democratic Party, which dominates the current party as too moderate, Nancy Pelosi is the only party leadership figure who genuinely aligns with their values.

You two have jobs to be doing.

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Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

Also, I'm campaigning for the DA, not me.

[OBD]

Speech in Wasilla, Alaska

It is an outrage when Labor pushes out attack ads calling PSOL and Laki communists, when in their own platform it says, "The means of production should belong to the workers who use them.", which means that they are socialists.

I call on all of you to reject the desperate lying by Labor by voting against Labor, even if you don't vote for the Democratic Alliance, which I hope you do.

I’m only a socialist because I don’t want to be generic D-PA avatar 21

ooh, look at me, I’m speshul!

Ask your party chair why he doesn't have D-Oregon?

ooh, look at me, whataboutism, I'm so smart!

Because chances are he might not be a Democrat. Come to Portland and you'll understand what I'm talking about. 

This, in big cities, many progressives are often not registered Democrats or even if they are, they don’t identify with the party. These people are hardcore liberals in ideology, but often view the more moderate wing of the Democratic Party, which dominates the current party as too moderate, Nancy Pelosi is the only party leadership figure who genuinely aligns with their values.

You two have jobs to be doing.

And we are doing them. We in Fremont have passed several bills reforming everything from criminal justice to environmental policy to feeding our citizens, while you propose a frivolous bill on alcohol designed specifically to trigger the good Speaker from New Jersey.

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

[Pericles]

The DA's Southern delegate voted for looser social distancing than the federal standards, which is why the administration has to step in and enforce our tough, safe standards over the regional ones.

Call me by my name. You know this is a bogus attack, Pericles. I initially authored a version that was even stricter than your guidelines (which you also criticized) but those were shot down by Labor AND Federalist delegates. As I've stated before, I only voted for the final version because I believed we needed to give the schools some sort of guidelines since it wasn't clear how enforceable your statement was - this was better than nothing at all, no restrictions.

We spoke on this three days ago where I privately reached out to you and expressed my displeasure with the Chamber taking a looser approach. I also encouraged you to take federal action via Executive Order to give teeth to your previous statement, which I haven't seen yet. You have ability to step in and do something here, you should do that instead of trying to attack me.

I'm judging the DA by their actions here. I had to come in and point out how unworkable the CoD's bill was, as Speaker your job is supposed  to be to get things in order first and be clear about what you are voting on. Finally, I have received confirmation from the Game Moderator that we will have data very soon on the situations in different states, which will then inform the EO I issue. As I mentioned this to you as well you could have asked me about it.

This whole post is a ridiculous diversion from you, let's focus on my main argument. The DA ad is still blatantly dishonest and makes several false claims about our Covid policy. The fundamental point of the ad is also a whopper of a lie as I've already pointed out. I know you guys are desperate to beat Labor, but your points need to have a basis in truth.

[OBD]

If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

[thumb21]

Oklahoma Mailer & Billboards



Sent to Oklahoma voters and seen on billboards throughout Oklahoma.

The reverse has information on the local and statewide Democratic Alliance candidates as well as a promise to create and enforce COVID protections in schools.

Disgusting.

[Continential]

If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

It isn't about lowering the drinking age, what about the open container laws that you know are in the bill.

[tmthforu94]

There was no confusion on the final version of the CoD bill and it isn't unworkable, it is just different from the federal "suggestions" that you gave. We had to act quickly because it is August, school is starting, and there were no guidelines in place. If the federal government doesn't take supeceeding action, it is certainly something we will look to amend/modify as we learn information from the GM team. I've tried to work with you on this from the very beginning, but it seems I am now expendable to attack because of my party affiliation. That's all I'm going to say on the matter, you're welcome to continue the squabbling with the rest of the DA over this ad, it is something I was not involved in. I only responded in the first place because you called me out directly.

[Sirius_]

If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

I don't know why this theory of yours has gained traction in your head, but its ridiculous. Its a bill that S019 clearly doesn't like. You are allowed to write legislation that S019 doesn't like. Sorry.

[Continential]

Oklahoma Mailer & Billboards



Sent to Oklahoma voters and seen on billboards throughout Oklahoma.

The reverse has information on the local and statewide Democratic Alliance candidates as well as a promise to create and enforce COVID protections in schools.

Disgusting.

People in Your Party called the Greens "Marxist", why don't you say "Disgusting." to that.
Your leader called the Democratic Alliance "Bastards", why don't you say "Disgusting" to that.

Oh Yeah, because it's Labor and it gets a double standard and you probably won't give two s**ts about this post.

[Pericles]

There was no confusion on the final version of the CoD bill and it isn't unworkable, it is just different from the federal "suggestions" that you gave. We had to act quickly because it is August, school is starting, and there were no guidelines in place. If the federal government doesn't take supeceeding action, it is certainly something we will look to amend/modify as we learn information from the GM team. I've tried to work with you on this from the very beginning, but it seems I am now expendable to attack because of my party affiliation. That's all I'm going to say on the matter, you're welcome to continue the squabbling with the rest of the DA over this ad, it is something I was not involved in. I only responded in the first place because you called me out directly.

I literally went over how it is unworkable. The federal standards are already being enforced for clarification, but the EO will just add further legal weight in case anyone wants to take the administration to court for protecting Atlasian kids.

[OBD]

If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

It isn't about lowering the drinking age, what about the open container laws that you know are in the bill.

So alcohol citations are why Ahmaud Arbery and so many others are victims of police brutality. Got it.

[Sirius_]

If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

It isn't about lowering the drinking age, what about the open container laws that you know are in the bill.

So alcohol citations are why Ahmaud Arbery and so many others are victims of police brutality. Got it.

Every improvement is an improvement. Big and small, if there are improvements to be made then improvements should be made. And yes, these laws have worsened racial profiling. So if we can improve that situation, we should.

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Oklahoma Mailer & Billboards

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Sent to Oklahoma voters and seen on billboards throughout Oklahoma.

The reverse has information on the local and statewide Democratic Alliance candidates as well as a promise to create and enforce COVID protections in schools.

Disgusting.

People in Your Party called the Greens "Marxist", why don't you say "Disgusting." to that.
Your leader called the Democratic Alliance "Bastards", why don't you say "Disgusting" to that.

Oh Yeah, because it's Labor and it gets a double standard and you probably won't give two s**ts about this post.

Coronavirus isn't a partisan issue at all, many friends and colleages from the DA, Labor and the Federalist Party have worked hard to get us through this. I put a lot of time into writing bills and amending bills trying to make sure there was adequate PPE, funding, hazard pay for essential workers, stimulus checks to help people follow guidelines when I was in congress, so I take it very personally when someone tells me that Labor doesn't take coronavirus seriously, I know it isn't true and I'd never say such a thing about any other party.

I'd agree that people shouldn't call DA bastards, but its really not comparable to saying that someone doesn't care about a deadly pandemic, which has killed so many people and affected all our lives.

[OBD]

If the “good speaker from NJ” gets triggered by good legislation that’s his own problem.

And lowering the drinking age is the most pressing political issue of our time? It's clearly a non-issue and a blatantly transparent baiting attempt by the DA.

I don't know why this theory of yours has gained traction in your head, but its ridiculous. Its a bill that S019 clearly doesn't like. You are allowed to write legislation that S019 doesn't like. Sorry.

You are allowed to write bills S019 doesn't like - hell, we do it in Labor all the time. But it's bad faith to write a bill S019 doesn't like for the sole purpose of annoying him. That's not called serving the people of Lincoln, it's called passing reform with little impact as an excuse to piss off someone you don't like. Anyone with half a brain cell can see that.