NPC Elections - Commentary Thread

[Sirius_]

Labor:

They want you to believe that Lincoln Labor is the party of jackbooted thugs, they want you to believe anybody who opposes their policy is a fascist.

Also Labor:

we are facing an onslaught of fascism and white supremacist policies from the opposition.  They want to undo everything that Dr. King and Pastor Warnock have fought for here in Atlanta and nationwide.  They're talking about checkpoints all over this city... all over this state... all over the country.  Checkpoints to make us show our papers to prove who is worthy of proceeding un-harassed.  It wasn't that long ago that people like this wanted to turn on the hoses and unleash the dogs! 

Labor's Georgia campaign is the most vile campaign I've ever seen in NPC elections.

Almost like real life or something...

It's hardly vile to point out your opponent dabbles in fascist tendencies.

I'm, um, going to need a clarification on a couple of things here:

1. who your "opponent" is
2. where the precise fascist tendencies you are accusing us (?) of holding come from, because AFAIK not a single person in our party has talked about instituting "checkpoints all over" Atlanta or any of your other accusations

Furthermore, I really don't understand the compulsive need to make this game as toxic as RL politics. Is there a specific outcome of all this that would result in a better game?

Oh my bad.  I thought there was an effort by your party to crack down on "sanctuary cities" (a thing which doesn't even exist). 

And calling someone a fascist is fair game.  It's literally an ideology.

Its perhaps the most reprehensible political ideology and applying it to people with 0 proof of it is a disgusting fearmongering tactic and an assassination of the character of perfectly good people. Its the kind of demagoguery I've come to expect out of Trump, just flip socialism with fascism. And if you're willing to use such tactics, then it is within my right to call them out just as Trump's many opponents have.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Its the kind of demagoguery I've come to expect out of Trump, just flip socialism with fascism.

[OBD]

Not gonna lie but it's a little surprising Labor got 8% of the DA-Liberal vote in RCV in Houston, after generally getting 20-25% previously in races against Feds. I'm guessing this has to do with some combination of more anti-DA/Liberal rhetoric by our NPC campaigners combined with Puerto Rico 2.0 but I'll wait on the post-morteum to explain this.

Also, a complete county map will be up when I get the time to do it.

[Lumine]

I'll be honest, the post mortem - will be up today - is providing quite a challenge, partly because of how much material there was, partly because there's a lot of game mechanism factors at play (plus the inclusion of RCV in the South, which led to a couple of surprises). I'm hoping it will at least give an indication of why some things happened though.

[OBD]

Behold, a completed county map!

The map of campaigns will be completed sometime soon as well, though I can't commit to a date.

[OBD]

Also a question on the MN results - why did the DA surge 9% in polling without campaigning there? December's House races in MN were unanimous Labor so that makes little sense.

We also had a homestater - Amanda - campaigning there. And I don't believe we said anything remotely controversial in MN (excluding the GA debacle).

[Poirot]

Maybe someone will ask for a full recount of the votes!
Maybe it's postal votes! Maybe there was fraud! Maybe some things are put on the wrong lines!

[Sirius_]

Also a question on the MN results - why did the DA surge 9% in polling without campaigning there? December's House races in MN were unanimous Labor so that makes little sense.

We also had a homestater - Amanda - campaigning there. And I don't believe we said anything remotely controversial in MN (excluding the GA debacle).

We did run several national ads and some fremont targeted ones, which I guess is where that must have come from.

[OBD]

Also a question on the MN results - why did the DA surge 9% in polling without campaigning there? December's House races in MN were unanimous Labor so that makes little sense.

We also had a homestater - Amanda - campaigning there. And I don't believe we said anything remotely controversial in MN (excluding the GA debacle).

We did run several national ads and some fremont targeted ones, which I guess is where that must have come from.

Yeah, I forgot about that. I guess that explains that lol

[KaiserDave]

I'll be honest, the post mortem - will be up today - is providing quite a challenge, partly because of how much material there was, partly because there's a lot of game mechanism factors at play (plus the inclusion of RCV in the South, which led to a couple of surprises). I'm hoping it will at least give an indication of why some things happened though.

No rush (of course) but should we expect the post mortem deep into the night or earlier?

[Lumine]

I'll be honest, the post mortem - will be up today - is providing quite a challenge, partly because of how much material there was, partly because there's a lot of game mechanism factors at play (plus the inclusion of RCV in the South, which led to a couple of surprises). I'm hoping it will at least give an indication of why some things happened though.

No rush (of course) but should we expect the post mortem deep into the night or earlier?

Oh, deep into the night. Struggling with just how much to reveal or hint at.

[KaiserDave]

I'll be honest, the post mortem - will be up today - is providing quite a challenge, partly because of how much material there was, partly because there's a lot of game mechanism factors at play (plus the inclusion of RCV in the South, which led to a couple of surprises). I'm hoping it will at least give an indication of why some things happened though.

No rush (of course) but should we expect the post mortem deep into the night or earlier?

Oh, deep into the night. Struggling with just how much to reveal or hint at.

Got it. I'll see in the morning then!

[OBD]

Let's kick off this round of county maps with some final round ones.








Note: Federalists are Purple, Liberals are Green. This is due to color gradient issues.

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

Honestly thought we’d edge out the liberals in NH (which granted we almost did) and do pretty good in AZ. Still, not a good sign for labor that they had to play defense in Fremont so much this cycle.

[OBD]

Here is the 'conventional' county map for this round of elections.

[OBD]

Continuing this series with the March cycle now updated. The map remains similar, with changes accounting for alterations in both coalitions and party strength.

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

Continuing this series with the March cycle now updated. The map remains similar, with changes accounting for alterations in both coalitions and party strength.

If feds get a majority in any county it'd be Pickens, it's actually further right than Oconee

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I have uncovered the real results of the elections in Kansas! #StopTheSteal

Kansas State Election:

Standard Southern System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)		Seats
Fianna Frémont		88%		120 Reps / 35  Senators
Dishonest Alliance		5%		3 Reps / 2 Senators
Liberal Party		5%		1 Reps / 2 Senators
Federalist Rich Man's Party		2%		1 Reps / 1 Senators
Total				125 Reps / 40 Senators

Gubernatorial result:
FF win, Governor Brown elected

Incoming Legislature:
FF House majority and Senate supermajority

[OBD]

I have uncovered the real results of the elections in Kansas! #StopTheSteal

Kansas State Election:

Standard Southern System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)		Seats
Fianna Frémont		88%		120 Reps / 35  Senators
Dishonest Alliance		5%		3 Reps / 2 Senators
Liberal Party		5%		1 Reps / 2 Senators
Federalist Rich Man's Party		2%		1 Reps / 1 Senators
Total				125 Reps / 40 Senators

Gubernatorial result:
FF win, Governor Brown reelected

Incoming Legislature:
FF House majority and Senate supermajority

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[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Will there be maps for this round?

[OBD]

Will there be maps for this round?

Yes!

[OBD]

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I think this map is slightly out of date, because the Liberals won NH from Labor.

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

I think this map is slightly out of date, because the Liberals won NH from Labor.

iirc they barely made the second round. That map would reflect that since I think they got mid-20s percent to Labor's 40-ish.

[OBD]

I think this map is slightly out of date, because the Liberals won NH from Labor.

iirc they barely made the second round. That map would reflect that since I think they got mid-20s percent to Labor's 40-ish.

Yeah this map is by first round percentages. Which can lead to weird maps (like New Hampshire and Alabama) that would seem to imply a victory by one party when in reality the other party took the governorship. For the February cycle I actually did some gubernatorial county maps so check those out too.