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« Reply #150 on: September 20, 2020, 11:49:01 AM »

Has anyone bothered to compute the two-week average (which I guess would just be the average of today and 7 days ago)?
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« Reply #151 on: September 21, 2020, 04:57:47 AM »

Probablistic:
Biden 51.1% (+0.4)
Trump 41.8% (-0.3)

Traditional:
Biden 52.3% (+0.7)
Trump 41.7% (-0.5)
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« Reply #152 on: September 21, 2020, 05:31:31 AM »

We're oscillating, folks!
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« Reply #153 on: September 21, 2020, 05:40:02 AM »

I am no longer believing in anymore hack maps, Trump approvals are near 50 percent, not 39 percent a 334 map or 413 landslide, isn't gonna happen
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« Reply #154 on: September 21, 2020, 05:57:56 AM »


This is so funny to watch after it was predicted. What a screw-up.
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« Reply #155 on: September 21, 2020, 06:03:33 AM »


This is so funny to watch after it was predicted. What a screw-up.

Right? What are we to do though to get a good sample? Just average the two 14-day samples together?
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« Reply #156 on: September 21, 2020, 06:38:09 AM »

Or even just compare where we were 14 days ago. This is that sort of "panel" right?
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« Reply #157 on: September 21, 2020, 06:44:59 AM »

So I guess we’ll be in the pro-Biden half of the sample on election day, right? (6 weeks plus 2 days)

Hopefully they'll at least have the decency to cram everyone in the panel into their final 7 day sample before the election.
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« Reply #158 on: September 21, 2020, 06:48:58 AM »

Or even just compare where we were 14 days ago. This is that sort of "panel" right?

9/20: Biden 52, Trump 42
9/06: Biden 52, Trump 41
8/23: Biden 53, Trump 41
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« Reply #159 on: September 21, 2020, 07:39:28 AM »

I am no longer believing in anymore hack maps, Trump approvals are near 50 percent, not 39 percent a 334 map or 413 landslide, isn't gonna happen

Biden is over 50% nationally and ahead or competitive in 400+EV seats, 413 landslide incoming.
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« Reply #160 on: September 21, 2020, 10:24:32 AM »

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Why we will be adding a 14-day average graphic:
To have a demographically balanced sample across the observation period for every 14-day tracking poll wave, each participant in our survey panel has the option to respond to questions during a specific range of days, twice a month.

Our 7-day graphics represent opinions from half our respondents, recorded each day and including responses from the previous 7 days. Due to random variations in who responds each day, the 7-day graphic has been subject to a certain level of periodicity. Our goal for this graphic was to have it more nimbly reflect reactions to news events than it could if the full 14 day wave was included in each data point. We will continue showing this graphic, but we will soon also add a graphic that is based on averages across a full 14-day sample each day.
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« Reply #161 on: September 21, 2020, 10:38:25 AM »

I am no longer believing in anymore hack maps, Trump approvals are near 50 percent, not 39 percent a 334 map or 413 landslide, isn't gonna happen

Biden is over 50% nationally and ahead or competitive in 400+EV seats, 413 landslide incoming.

Just wanted to point out that 538's model graph thing has a big spike at 413. Seems to line up with the idea (proposed several times on here) that 413 may be the most probable single outcome, even though it's still unlikely.
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« Reply #162 on: September 21, 2020, 10:56:06 AM »

I am no longer believing in anymore hack maps, Trump approvals are near 50 percent, not 39 percent a 334 map or 413 landslide, isn't gonna happen

Biden is over 50% nationally and ahead or competitive in 400+EV seats, 413 landslide incoming.

Just wanted to point out that 538's model graph thing has a big spike at 413. Seems to line up with the idea (proposed several times on here) that 413 may be the most probable single outcome, even though it's still unlikely.

That's interesting. 413 is where Ohio, Georgia, Iowa, and Texas have all fallen to the Dems. I suppose the reason why there's a big spike is because Biden can win several more D points beyond that and no other states will fall for a long time - not until really unlikely states like SC and MT.
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« Reply #163 on: September 21, 2020, 11:00:17 AM »

I am no longer believing in anymore hack maps, Trump approvals are near 50 percent, not 39 percent a 334 map or 413 landslide, isn't gonna happen

Biden is over 50% nationally and ahead or competitive in 400+EV seats, 413 landslide incoming.

Just wanted to point out that 538's model graph thing has a big spike at 413. Seems to line up with the idea (proposed several times on here) that 413 may be the most probable single outcome, even though it's still unlikely.

That's interesting. 413 is where Ohio, Georgia, Iowa, and Texas have all fallen to the Dems. I suppose the reason why there's a big spike is because Biden can win several more D points beyond that and no other states will fall for a long time - not until really unlikely states like SC and MT.

Right - I think 413 is the very likely EV total for any range of popular vote outcomes from Biden+10 or so nationally all the way until you're approaching Biden+20.
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« Reply #164 on: September 21, 2020, 01:03:25 PM »

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Why we will be adding a 14-day average graphic:
To have a demographically balanced sample across the observation period for every 14-day tracking poll wave, each participant in our survey panel has the option to respond to questions during a specific range of days, twice a month.

Our 7-day graphics represent opinions from half our respondents, recorded each day and including responses from the previous 7 days. Due to random variations in who responds each day, the 7-day graphic has been subject to a certain level of periodicity. Our goal for this graphic was to have it more nimbly reflect reactions to news events than it could if the full 14 day wave was included in each data point. We will continue showing this graphic, but we will soon also add a graphic that is based on averages across a full 14-day sample each day.

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« Reply #165 on: September 21, 2020, 01:37:39 PM »

I am no longer believing in anymore hack maps, Trump approvals are near 50 percent, not 39 percent a 334 map or 413 landslide, isn't gonna happen

Biden is over 50% nationally and ahead or competitive in 400+EV seats, 413 landslide incoming.

Just wanted to point out that 538's model graph thing has a big spike at 413. Seems to line up with the idea (proposed several times on here) that 413 may be the most probable single outcome, even though it's still unlikely.

That's interesting. 413 is where Ohio, Georgia, Iowa, and Texas have all fallen to the Dems. I suppose the reason why there's a big spike is because Biden can win several more D points beyond that and no other states will fall for a long time - not until really unlikely states like SC and MT.

Right - I think 413 is the very likely EV total for any range of popular vote outcomes from Biden+10 or so nationally all the way until you're approaching Biden+20.

Oh, I see, “proposed several times here” implies my post isn’t a new epiphany. Smiley
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« Reply #166 on: September 22, 2020, 04:54:31 AM »

Using the two-week sample in this post.

Probablistic:
Biden 51.4% (n/c)
Trump 41.9% (n/c)

Traditional:
Biden 52.4% (-0.1)
Trump 41.7% (-0.1)
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« Reply #167 on: September 22, 2020, 04:59:54 AM »

Using the two-week sample in this post.

Probablistic:
Biden 51.4% (n/c)
Trump 41.9% (n/c)

Traditional:
Biden 52.4% (-0.1)
Trump 41.7% (-0.1)

This version has made the poll one of the most stable out there.
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« Reply #168 on: September 23, 2020, 05:10:15 AM »

Probablistic:
Biden 51.3% (-0.1)
Trump 42.1% (+0.2)

Traditional:
Biden 52.1% (-0.3)
Trump 42% (+0.3)
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« Reply #169 on: September 23, 2020, 05:11:46 AM »

Probablistic:
Biden 51.3% (-0.1)
Trump 42.1% (+0.2)

Traditional:
Biden 52.1% (-0.3)
Trump 42% (+0.3)

Now I'm confused though, Biden is exploding again (as expected) in the 7-day window, so why is he dropping in the 14 day window?
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« Reply #170 on: September 24, 2020, 05:22:13 AM »

Probabilistic:
Biden 51.2% (-0.1)
Trump 42.2% (+0.1)

Traditional:
Biden 51.9% (-0.2)
Trump 42% (n/c)
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« Reply #171 on: September 25, 2020, 03:15:16 PM »

5,377 LV, Panel Sept. 14-24

Biden: 52 (+10)
Trump: 42

MoE: ±3.5%?

Full Release Here

-Joe gains a point from the last 14-day update
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« Reply #172 on: September 25, 2020, 03:17:26 PM »

Excellent!  Thank you for giving today's numbers.
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« Reply #173 on: September 25, 2020, 03:18:05 PM »

There is a megathread for their tracking polls. The thread just moved to the end of the page with all these polls from today.
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« Reply #174 on: September 25, 2020, 03:18:22 PM »

There is a megathread for their tracking polls. The thread just moved to the end of the page with all these polls from today.

Ah!
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