Justice department sues Yale for illegal discrimination based on race

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Interesting how Asians are considered to be "privileged" even though they have the highest poverty rate in NYC.

You guys don't care about people in poverty anyway. This is a classic yellow avatar race-baiting thread.

If Yale was promoting the applications of African-American and Hispanic students to the exclusion of impoverished Americans of Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc descent that your HuffPost article is highlighting, then this might have merit. I doubt that was the case here. The point of affirmative action is to help underserved groups get a footing in career tracks they previously haven't been able to. So that would mean you would prefer that application to groups who are already well-established. Given the fact that America's universities are already representative to a disproportionate degree with Chinese, Indian, Japanese, and Korean students, plus academic tourists from those countries (especially China) that would include them as well.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Always questionable and curious when people choose to start caring about "discrimination".

Are Asian-americans not deserving of equal treatment?

So, as an Asian-American, I think affirmative action is a good thing, because it allows underprivileged minorities to get ahead. I would prefer that it would be reformed to also benefit Asians, who have also struggled in this nation for a while. But I can't support this lawsuit, because the end result is that this will end up benefitting white people far more than Asians, and minorities will once again be shafted. Affirmative action exists to benefit minorities, and yes while it usually doesn't benefit Asians, that's not a reason to throw it out, instead that's a way to push it to benefit all minorities, yet as I already said minorities will get shafted by this lawsuit, and white people will benefit.

Good.
Affirmative action is a flawed idea by design.
Aff. Action takes already disadvantaged kids who did worse by academic metrics and shoves all them into a pressure cooker environment.

Affirmative action is a convenient way to hide the real issues, which is the completely insane way our public K-12 schools are funded and too much administration in many of the districts.

This is a win for the Asian American community in general.
Pushing hard working people down is not how we will solve our educational inequities.

I think this is a bad way to look at it, there is systemic bias against minorities, and Asians in this country, and honestly there always will be. I think pushing to reform affirmative action to also benefit Asians would help, as I believe it should benefit all minorities, scrapping a policy that just needs some minor fixes is a bad idea.

I haven't been on a university campus in the last 15 years and felt Asians were at a disadvantage for admissions. But maybe that's because "Asian-Americans" is too wide a brush for this type of policy. I would very much support Affirmative action that focused on underrepresented nationalities. And as always this stuff should factor in poverty and circumstances at least equally to race.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Always questionable and curious when people choose to start caring about "discrimination".

Are Asian-americans not deserving of equal treatment?

So, as an Asian-American, I think affirmative action is a good thing, because it allows underprivileged minorities to get ahead. I would prefer that it would be reformed to also benefit Asians, who have also struggled in this nation for a while. But I can't support this lawsuit, because the end result is that this will end up benefitting white people far more than Asians, and minorities will once again be shafted. Affirmative action exists to benefit minorities, and yes while it usually doesn't benefit Asians, that's not a reason to throw it out, instead that's a way to push it to benefit all minorities, yet as I already said minorities will get shafted by this lawsuit, and white people will benefit.

By definition, you can't "reform affirmative action to also benefit Asians." Asians don't need affirmative action; that's why they make up such disproportionate percentages of students at so many elite institutions even despite affirmative action laws.

He wants to keep acting woke but also boost his chances in college lol.

No, I just think every group except white people is underprivileged and needs help from the government. Asians are still much, much worse off than white people in general, and college admissions should account for that.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Interesting how Asians are considered to be "privileged" even though they have the highest poverty rate in NYC.

These things really need to be handled on a case-by-case basis. Widespread disaggregation of "Asian" by national origin, ethnicity, and income level would be helpful.

Interesting how Asians are considered to be "privileged" even though they have the highest poverty rate in NYC.

You guys don't care about people in poverty anyway. This is a classic yellow avatar race-baiting thread.

If Yale was promoting the applications of African-American and Hispanic students to the exclusion of impoverished Americans of Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc descent that your HuffPost article is highlighting, then this might have merit. I doubt that was the case here. The point of affirmative action is to help underserved groups get a footing in career tracks they previously haven't been able to. So that would mean you would prefer that application to groups who are already well-established. Given the fact that America's universities are already representative to a disproportionate degree with Chinese, Indian, Japanese, and Korean students, plus academic tourists from those countries (especially China) that would include them as well.

AAPI Americans and foreign nationals are counted separately in campus profile reports... And treating them as if they're interchangeable contributes to the perception of Asian Americans as "perpetual foreigners".

Also- if we use median household income as a proxy for general affluence, Chinese Americans are below the AAPI average, while Vietnamese Americans are close to the same level as Korean Americans. So not particularly well-off on average, but not really equivalent to Cambodian and Hmong Americans either.

Good point. As discussed earlier, I think it's probably better to look at the student's individual history when making these decisions.