Voter suppresion/"stealing the election" megathread

[Gass3268]

The Trump campaign's Federal lawsuit against drop boxes in Pennsylvania has been halted, pending resolution in the Pennsylvania state court system.

Good News!

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1297598052421730308?s=20

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Good thing the incimpotent dictator announced his secret plan over 3 months away from the Election, huh?

Or that Democrats didn't meekly roll over and accept it because "Democrats are weak" or something

[BlueSwan]

Does anybody have a list regarding the different rules surrounding mail in voting in the different states. I am mainly thinking of the following:

1) Which states count mail in ballots on election night and which only count them later?

2) Which states allow for ballots stamped on election night as opposed to those that only allow for those ballots which are received on election day or before?

[Tender Branson]

Yes:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/plan-your-vote-state-by-state-guide-voting-by-mail-early-in-person-voting-election



Once again a fu**ing tile map ...

[Ferguson97]

Yes:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/plan-your-vote-state-by-state-guide-voting-by-mail-early-in-person-voting-election



Once again a fu**ing tile map ...

Florida and NC should be counted quick enough that we'll now the winner in Election Night?

[BlueSwan]

Yes:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/plan-your-vote-state-by-state-guide-voting-by-mail-early-in-person-voting-election



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Thanks!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Haha this is the judge tha smacked down Trump's Pennsylvania lawsuit.

Guess who appointed him?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Ranjan

[Storr]

Haha this is the judge tha smacked down Trump's Pennsylvania lawsuit.

Guess who appointed him?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Ranjan

Except for the grey in his hair, he doesn't look at all like he's in his 40s.

[brucejoel99]

Haha this is the judge tha smacked down Trump's Pennsylvania lawsuit.

Guess who appointed him?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Ranjan

They owe him nothing.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Haha this is the judge tha smacked down Trump's Pennsylvania lawsuit.

Guess who appointed him?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Ranjan

They owe him nothing.

Of course. But does Trump understand that?

[Gass3268]

Good news out of Minnesota, ballot collection will be legal! Go get those ballots!

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1298294824794296320?s=20

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1298305905143033857

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1298305905143033857

A legend of democracy.

[BlueSwan]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1298305905143033857

King James to the rescue!

[Beet]

https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1298199318281715712

[Ferguson97]

I want DeJoy and Trump to rot in jail for the rest of their lives.

[Hammy]

Yes:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/plan-your-vote-state-by-state-guide-voting-by-mail-early-in-person-voting-election



Once again a fu**ing tile map ...

Whoever uses these maps should be blacklisted from ever working in data or media.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/rbeggin/status/1298626545670656000?s=21

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/Elaijuh/status/1298739547044487169?s=20

[pbrower2a]

https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1297240194224201730

Priority Mail is typically a cheap way of sending parcels. Ballots would be first-class mail. 

Someone's pants are on fire.

[pbrower2a]

Right-wing political operatives Jack Burkman and Jacob Wohl appear to have targeted Black voters in at least two states with robocalls chock full of disinformation in an apparent effort to dissuade Black voters from voting by mail.

Right Wing Watch received a tip from a New York reader Wednesday who had received the call. The reader, who asked not to be named after reading about Burkman and Wohl’s smear campaigns, has used Google voicemail to forward her messages to her cell phone while she’s been working from home and was unsure if the robocall went to her landline in New City, New York, or her office number of her law firm in Manhattan. It is unclear how many voters in New York have received this call. A Google search of the phone number used in the robocall—(703) 795-5364—brings up John Burkman and the address of the Burkman’s lobbying firm. It appears at least one other person reported the call as a robocall Wednesday.

On Thursday, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson reported that her office had heard from Detroit citizens who had received the same call. Benson said that her office “will use every tool at our disposal to dispel this & other false rhetoric & seek justice on behalf of every voter who was targeted & harmed by this vicious attempt at voter suppression” and asked that Michiganders report similar false info to elections@michigan.gov.

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/right-wing-political-operatives-jack-burkman-and-jacob-wohl-target-black-voters-with-robocalls-disinformation/

Yes, intimidation of voters is vote fraud.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Inspired by this article: "Getting from November to January"

First, we are facing an “election season,” not an “Election Day.” Given that there will be unprecedented numbers of provisional, absentee, and mail-in ballots, many of which may take days to be counted, it is very possible we will not know the results of the election on the evening of November 3rd. What’s more, in many parts of the country, these so-called overtime votes will break disproportionately towards the Democrats, a process referred to as the “Blue Shift.”What this means is that it’s very possible that Trump could be leading on Election Night but would see that lead evaporate as the overtime votes are counted. This is precisely why Trump himself recently declared that he wants the results called on Election Night—i.e. before the Democratic-leaning late votes can be counted.

This longish period for vote counting opens up opportunities to manipulate the process and to sow doubt and confusion about the election results. In our scenario exercises, Team Trump attempted to claim that the late votes were fraudulent, and in one case tried to have the Department of Justice work with the Post Office to seize mailed in ballots to prevent them from being counted. In other cases, election officials were doxxed in order to intimidate them from going to work, and “second amendment types” showed up at vote counting sites to try to prevent late votes from being counted.

This very much reminds me of the infamous "Brooks Brothers riot" in 2000, where GOP operatives were flown in to disrupt the recount ahead of a court-mandated deadline and stole the election for Bush. I think the odds are relatively high that Republicans will try something of the sort again.

A plausible scenario for 2020 might be: despite losing Florida, Trump is ahead in WI+MI+PA on election night, with days of absentee ballot counting yet to begin. Trump refuses to concede, and claims "Democrat-run cities" are trying to steal the election by counting illegal votes and the count should be stopped. Far right agitators, possibly armed, attack, intimidate and disrupt counts at key polling stations, causing a delay. After two weeks with no certified result, a suit is kicked up to the Supreme Court, which in a partisan 5-4 decision orders counting to cease. When Democratic governors refuse to comply and further violence at counting stations occurs, Trump federalises the National Guard of the disputed states to end the counts and disperse massive demonstrations. The states of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania refuse to certify any electoral votes in protest and in a contingent election in the House Trump is re-elected President of the United States.

Not very likely to happen, of course, but on the edge of plausibility. I hope Democrats are already thinking about what they are going to do if the election is close enough that Trump tries to pull out all the stops to dispute and steal the election result.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1298305905143033857

😄 Suck it conservatives! Your fear of the black vote shall be realized!

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/1299203081431851009

[Ferguson97]

First, we are facing an “election season,” not an “Election Day.” Given that there will be unprecedented numbers of provisional, absentee, and mail-in ballots, many of which may take days to be counted, it is very possible we will not know the results of the election on the evening of November 3rd. What’s more, in many parts of the country, these so-called overtime votes will break disproportionately towards the Democrats, a process referred to as the “Blue Shift.”What this means is that it’s very possible that Trump could be leading on Election Night but would see that lead evaporate as the overtime votes are counted. This is precisely why Trump himself recently declared that he wants the results called on Election Night—i.e. before the Democratic-leaning late votes can be counted.

This longish period for vote counting opens up opportunities to manipulate the process and to sow doubt and confusion about the election results. In our scenario exercises, Team Trump attempted to claim that the late votes were fraudulent, and in one case tried to have the Department of Justice work with the Post Office to seize mailed in ballots to prevent them from being counted. In other cases, election officials were doxxed in order to intimidate them from going to work, and “second amendment types” showed up at vote counting sites to try to prevent late votes from being counted.

Frankly I expect all of this to happen