Voter suppresion/"stealing the election" megathread

[GeneralMacArthur]

This is absolutely motherf--king insane.  Biden and Harrison campaigns need to be absolutely on top of this and the Democratic Party needs to drown South Carolina in lawsuits.

ABSENTEE BALLOTS ARE BEING SENT WITH INSTRUCTIONS THAT, IF FOLLOWED, WOULD LEAD TO THE BALLOTS BEING THROWN OUT.

And OF COURSE South Carolina won't even tell you if your ballot is thrown out.  For this, or any other reason.  Just gotta cross your fingers.  WTF

https://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1314989946944606209

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Where was this sent? I received mine in Charleston and it made it clear we needed a witness.

[Badger]

Texas limits by-mail early voting to:
   (1) Those over 65.
   (2) Those with disabilities.
   (3) Those who are incarcerated (non-felons awaiting trial in jail)
   (4) Those who will be outside the county for the entire early-voting period.

I'm actually way more mad about the 5th Circuit's (and I think at least one other circuit's) ruling on that. Drop boxes are at least debatable but that's a blatant violation of the plain text of the Constitution. The 26th Amendment was worded identically to the 15th Amendment, so it demands the same level of scrutiny that would be given to an explicit whites-only absentee voting law. (Though maybe I shouldn't expect that the court would stop that either.)

Texas has never had "drop boxes". A mail voter could take their ballot to the county clerk on election day, and after showing an ID, could hand deliver it. Most voters, like, mailed their mail ballot.

You'd think that if someone thought that the 26th Amendment was applicable, they would have filed suit in the past 48 years. I'm pretty sure someone would have filed suit against a mail ballot for whites-only before 1913, or a male-only mail (male?) ballot before 1968.

Texas could simply eliminate the dispensation for those over 65. Many elderly have mobility or other disabilities.

Your tirade completely ignores the fundamental equal protection issue of limiting one ballot drop box, however you wish to label it per County weather. County is 169 resident Loving County or. Nearly 5 million populated Harris County.

Surely even a conspiracy theorist who had it on with the most point and laugh absurd Notions during the entire North Carolina 9th District voting fraud - - can understand that this is pure and simple voter suppression designed to minimize Democrats chances to vote in crowded urban areas versus Republicans in smaller counties? Do you even attempt to deny this?

[Badger]

Texas limits by-mail early voting to:
   (1) Those over 65.
   (2) Those with disabilities.
   (3) Those who are incarcerated (non-felons awaiting trial in jail)
   (4) Those who will be outside the county for the entire early-voting period.

I'm actually way more mad about the 5th Circuit's (and I think at least one other circuit's) ruling on that. Drop boxes are at least debatable but that's a blatant violation of the plain text of the Constitution. The 26th Amendment was worded identically to the 15th Amendment, so it demands the same level of scrutiny that would be given to an explicit whites-only absentee voting law. (Though maybe I shouldn't expect that the court would stop that either.)

Texas has never had "drop boxes". A mail voter could take their ballot to the county clerk on election day, and after showing an ID, could hand deliver it. Most voters, like, mailed their mail ballot.

You'd think that if someone thought that the 26th Amendment was applicable, they would have filed suit in the past 48 years. I'm pretty sure someone would have filed suit against a mail ballot for whites-only before 1913, or a male-only mail (male?) ballot before 1968.

Texas could simply eliminate the dispensation for those over 65. Many elderly have mobility or other disabilities.

Perhaps this being the first election in a mass pandemic is a factor, Jim.

And ... Orange Man Bad? Perhaps?

Or maybe the first thing, and you're just being a foolish partisan hack.

[jimrtex]

Texas limits by-mail early voting to:
   (1) Those over 65.
   (2) Those with disabilities.
   (3) Those who are incarcerated (non-felons awaiting trial in jail)
   (4) Those who will be outside the county for the entire early-voting period.

I'm actually way more mad about the 5th Circuit's (and I think at least one other circuit's) ruling on that. Drop boxes are at least debatable but that's a blatant violation of the plain text of the Constitution. The 26th Amendment was worded identically to the 15th Amendment, so it demands the same level of scrutiny that would be given to an explicit whites-only absentee voting law. (Though maybe I shouldn't expect that the court would stop that either.)

Texas has never had "drop boxes". A mail voter could take their ballot to the county clerk on election day, and after showing an ID, could hand deliver it. Most voters, like, mailed their mail ballot.

You'd think that if someone thought that the 26th Amendment was applicable, they would have filed suit in the past 48 years. I'm pretty sure someone would have filed suit against a mail ballot for whites-only before 1913, or a male-only mail (male?) ballot before 1968.

Texas could simply eliminate the dispensation for those over 65. Many elderly have mobility or other disabilities.

Your tirade completely ignores the fundamental equal protection issue of limiting one ballot drop box, however you wish to label it per County weather. County is 169 resident Loving County or. Nearly 5 million populated Harris County.

Surely even a conspiracy theorist who had it on with the most point and laugh absurd Notions during the entire North Carolina 9th District voting fraud - - can understand that this is pure and simple voter suppression designed to minimize Democrats chances to vote in crowded urban areas versus Republicans in smaller counties? Do you even attempt to deny this?

Mail ballots are intended to be mailed. There are dozens of post offices in Harris County. Or a voter can go to in-person voting, surrender their mail ballot and vote in person.

There is no reason to have more than one location for in-person return of ballots -essentially the same place that you mail your ballots to.

PS You didn't happen to catch the SNAFU about the Pledge of Allegiance at the Bladen County Board of Elections. After the Democrats took control of the board, they decided to drop the Pledge from their agenda. After they voted down adding it back to the agenda, a citizen got up and started reciting the pledge. The Democrats sat their fuming. Another person stormed out of the room giving what appears to be the National Socialist salute to the USA flag.

PPS McCrae Dowless is running for re-election.

[exopolitician]

Looks like Abbotts order limiting drop boxes has been lifted again:

A Texas judge on Thursday lifted an order by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott that limited counties to a single drop-off location for absentee ballots in the Nov. 3 presidential election, siding with Democrats who have denounced the limit as voter suppression.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/judge-lifts-texas-governor-s-order-limiting-ballot-drop-boxes-n1243580?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Looks like Abbotts order limiting drop boxes has been lifted again:

A Texas judge on Thursday lifted an order by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott that limited counties to a single drop-off location for absentee ballots in the Nov. 3 presidential election, siding with Democrats who have denounced the limit as voter suppression.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/judge-lifts-texas-governor-s-order-limiting-ballot-drop-boxes-n1243580?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

Wouldn't the earlier US Court of Appeals decision supersede any Texas judge decision?

[exopolitician]

Looks like Abbotts order limiting drop boxes has been lifted again:

A Texas judge on Thursday lifted an order by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott that limited counties to a single drop-off location for absentee ballots in the Nov. 3 presidential election, siding with Democrats who have denounced the limit as voter suppression.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/judge-lifts-texas-governor-s-order-limiting-ballot-drop-boxes-n1243580?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

Wouldn't the earlier US Court of Appeals decision supersede any Texas judge decision?

"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton quickly appealed Sulak’s order to the Third Court of Appeals in Austin. The court is expected to quickly rule on whether to stay Sulak’s order and reinstate Abbott’s limit."

From what I gathered, it's a pause on Abbotts order until the court decides again.

[jimrtex]

Looks like Abbotts order limiting drop boxes has been lifted again:

A Texas judge on Thursday lifted an order by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott that limited counties to a single drop-off location for absentee ballots in the Nov. 3 presidential election, siding with Democrats who have denounced the limit as voter suppression.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/judge-lifts-texas-governor-s-order-limiting-ballot-drop-boxes-n1243580?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

Wouldn't the earlier US Court of Appeals decision supersede any Texas judge decision?

This lawsuit was based on provisions in the Texas Constitution. The cases has been appealed, which automatically stays it.

A few years ago there was a decision by a Travis County district judge against qualification of the Green Party. The judge asked the litigating parties whether he should recuse himself because he voted for Democrats, knowing that replacing him would cause the Green Party to miss a deadline.

He said that he was going to rule against the Green Party, and said that he would be overturned by the Texas Supreme Court. He was. Meanwhile (within a day of his ruling in favor of the Democratic Party) the district judge made a contribution of $10,000 to the Democratic Party of Travis County.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Michigan bans open carrying of guns at polling sites on Election Day

[Ferguson97]

Michigan bans open carrying of guns at polling sites on Election Day

Good. This shouldn't even be a question lol

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1317163397063053312?s=20

[Non Swing Voter]

Have to say, Texas' voter suppression effort isn't going well...

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1317150910833971200?s=20

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Michigan bans open carrying of guns at polling sites on Election Day

Good. This shouldn't even be a question lol

murrica'

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Have to say, Texas' voter suppression effort isn't going well...

They've certainly worked to add confusion to the dropbox issue, which I guess was the objective?

Regardless, it feels like the Texas GOP are tripping over themselves towards a bad Election night. If anything, all their suppression efforts seem to be doing is increasing Dem turnout/enthusiasm and banking Dem votes even earlier, while also signalling to the nation in big letters "Texas is a purple state".


In a roundabout way.....this was actually good for Biden  

[Stockdale for Veep]

Fully expecting early voting to be gutted in certain states in the next few years.

[Badger]

Texas limits by-mail early voting to:
   (1) Those over 65.
   (2) Those with disabilities.
   (3) Those who are incarcerated (non-felons awaiting trial in jail)
   (4) Those who will be outside the county for the entire early-voting period.

I'm actually way more mad about the 5th Circuit's (and I think at least one other circuit's) ruling on that. Drop boxes are at least debatable but that's a blatant violation of the plain text of the Constitution. The 26th Amendment was worded identically to the 15th Amendment, so it demands the same level of scrutiny that would be given to an explicit whites-only absentee voting law. (Though maybe I shouldn't expect that the court would stop that either.)

Texas has never had "drop boxes". A mail voter could take their ballot to the county clerk on election day, and after showing an ID, could hand deliver it. Most voters, like, mailed their mail ballot.

You'd think that if someone thought that the 26th Amendment was applicable, they would have filed suit in the past 48 years. I'm pretty sure someone would have filed suit against a mail ballot for whites-only before 1913, or a male-only mail (male?) ballot before 1968.

Texas could simply eliminate the dispensation for those over 65. Many elderly have mobility or other disabilities.

Your tirade completely ignores the fundamental equal protection issue of limiting one ballot drop box, however you wish to label it per County weather. County is 169 resident Loving County or. Nearly 5 million populated Harris County.

Surely even a conspiracy theorist who had it on with the most point and laugh absurd Notions during the entire North Carolina 9th District voting fraud - - can understand that this is pure and simple voter suppression designed to minimize Democrats chances to vote in crowded urban areas versus Republicans in smaller counties? Do you even attempt to deny this?

Mail ballots are intended to be mailed. There are dozens of post offices in Harris County. Or a voter can go to in-person voting, surrender their mail ballot and vote in person.

There is no reason to have more than one location for in-person return of ballots -essentially the same place that you mail your ballots to.

PS You didn't happen to catch the SNAFU about the Pledge of Allegiance at the Bladen County Board of Elections. After the Democrats took control of the board, they decided to drop the Pledge from their agenda. After they voted down adding it back to the agenda, a citizen got up and started reciting the pledge. The Democrats sat their fuming. Another person stormed out of the room giving what appears to be the National Socialist salute to the USA flag.

PPS McCrae Dowless is running for re-election.

Garbage. Pure unadulterated garbage. Even by your profound lack of logic and general inability to engage in critical thinking, this is garbage.

That's the Prelude. Here's the details. Mail-in ballots as you call them do not need to be mailed in. I'm going to be dropping mine off in person at the Board of Elections because I am fortunate enough that it is not terribly far from a location I have to be at multiple times a week for one of my kids sporting events. Your silliness fails to comprehend that the ballot drop-off boxes are being used. This is not a matter of getting rid of them because Jim text decided in his infinite Collective weirdo reasoning that dropping them off in any other way than u.s. mail is somehow required.

 But we do have them, Jim. Which brings back to the same question as to why it is remotely not violative of equal protection, or let's be frank just out-and-out blatant attempt to depress voting in Democratic areas, by giving the same opportunity to a county with 169 residents to one with five and a half million. So you would say that it would be equally fair to have the same number of polling places Per County regardless of population as well?

Don't answer that. A partisan Pro voter suppression hack like yourself absolutely would.

You inartfully dodge the question and instead went on some inane tirade about Bladen County. In terms of Defending Your Position, you have effectively soiled the bed. Go to sleep. Stop posting. Delete your account.

Good day sir!

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1317249264020586502

[Dr. Arch]

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1317249264020586502

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[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1317249264020586502

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The headline is worse than it actually is. I do feel bad for the election clerks who have to deal with all of this. Probably why we are lacking results from some of those Philadelphia collar counties.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1317249264020586502

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How does one get issued a duplicate absentee ballot to mail in?

[Hnv1]

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1317249264020586502

What does that mean? Can this people vote in person of their mail ballot was rejected or did PA just lose 320k votes?

[Pulaski]

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1317249264020586502

What does that mean? Can this people vote in person of their mail ballot was rejected or did PA just lose 320k votes?

Most of the people it applies to had already included an application for a mail-in ballot when they voted in the primary, so these new ones they did afterwards have been rejected, but presumably they'll still get mail-in ballots as they applied.

[Lognog]

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1317249264020586502

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Yeah I don't think this is a big deal tbh. I live in PA and my girlfriend requested an absentee ballot on line and through the mail. They aren't going to send two so they invalidated the first one that was sent. I wouldn't lose sleep over this