19-year-old Fmr. Candidate for KS Governor may have just won a State House seat

[DabbingSanta]

Ahhhh... leftists getting attacked by their own is very satisfying. Cancel culture, do your thing.

[Corbyn is (no longer) the leader of the Labour Party]

Ahhhh... leftists getting attacked by their own is very satisfying. Cancel culture, do your thing.

wait... are you defending this guy?

[DabbingSanta]

Ahhhh... leftists getting attacked by their own is very satisfying. Cancel culture, do your thing.

wait... are you defending this guy?

No, just grabbing popcorn and watching the show.  If the allegations are true he deserves this.

[7,052,770]

He's awful, but if the voters elect him anyway knowing all this, the legislature should seat him. The people have the right to be represented by any eligible citizen they choose, not necessarily someone acceptable to other legislators.

It would be one thing if this all came out after Election Day. But the voters have the full information and their decision should be respected.

[JerryArkansas]

He's awful, but if the voters elect him anyway knowing all this, the legislature should seat him. The people have the right to be represented by any eligible citizen they choose, not necessarily someone acceptable to other legislators.

It would be one thing if this all came out after Election Day. But the voters have the full information and their decision should be respected.

No, if he wins the voters should be ignored and him not be seated. 

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

He's awful, but if the voters elect him anyway knowing all this, the legislature should seat him. The people have the right to be represented by any eligible citizen they choose, not necessarily someone acceptable to other legislators.

It would be one thing if this all came out after Election Day. But the voters have the full information and their decision should be respected.

No, if he wins the voters should be ignored and him not be seated. 

What could possibly go wrong with setting this precedent? It's not as if there is an increasingly popular conspiracy theory regarding Democratic politicians and child abuse/trafficking.

[Adam Griffin]

“I just can’t believe that he continues to tell lies about what I’ve accomplished,” Frownfelter said. “I don’t understand why he’s slamming another Democrat. And I’ve never said a word about him.”

And that's why you've been relegated to running a write-in campaign, Mr. Incumbent.

[JerryArkansas]

He's awful, but if the voters elect him anyway knowing all this, the legislature should seat him. The people have the right to be represented by any eligible citizen they choose, not necessarily someone acceptable to other legislators.

It would be one thing if this all came out after Election Day. But the voters have the full information and their decision should be respected.

No, if he wins the voters should be ignored and him not be seated. 

What could possibly go wrong with setting this precedent? It's not as if there is an increasingly popular conspiracy theory regarding Democratic politicians and child abuse/trafficking.

If you really want to try and compare these two very different things that is up to you and your strange reasoning.  They aren't the same and you know it.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

He's awful, but if the voters elect him anyway knowing all this, the legislature should seat him. The people have the right to be represented by any eligible citizen they choose, not necessarily someone acceptable to other legislators.

It would be one thing if this all came out after Election Day. But the voters have the full information and their decision should be respected.

No, if he wins the voters should be ignored and him not be seated.  

What could possibly go wrong with setting this precedent? It's not as if there is an increasingly popular conspiracy theory regarding Democratic politicians and child abuse/trafficking.

If you really want to try and compare these two very different things that is up to you and your strange reasoning.  They aren't the same and you know it.

Of course they aren't the same. One is true and the other isn't. That doesn't mean the conspiracy isn't believed by many, though, and that's what counts in a democracy.

Setting the precedent of not seating him opens the door to Qanon panderers deciding not to seat certain Democrats as well.

[Adam Griffin]

He's awful, but if the voters elect him anyway knowing all this, the legislature should seat him. The people have the right to be represented by any eligible citizen they choose, not necessarily someone acceptable to other legislators.

It would be one thing if this all came out after Election Day. But the voters have the full information and their decision should be respected.

No, if he wins the voters should be ignored and him not be seated.  

What could possibly go wrong with setting this precedent? It's not as if there is an increasingly popular conspiracy theory regarding Democratic politicians and child abuse/trafficking.

If you really want to try and compare these two very different things that is up to you and your strange reasoning.  They aren't the same and you know it.

I mean...in nominal defense of the argument here, you're banking on 1) the GOP base knowing the difference between reality and fiction and 2) the GOP elite caring about the distinction if it's inconvenient for them and/or their electoral ambitions.

[brucejoel99]

He's awful, but if the voters elect him anyway knowing all this, the legislature should seat him. The people have the right to be represented by any eligible citizen they choose, not necessarily someone acceptable to other legislators.

It would be one thing if this all came out after Election Day. But the voters have the full information and their decision should be respected.

No, if he wins the voters should be ignored and him not be seated. 

Because f**k democracy, amirite?

(/s if it wasn't painfully obvious)

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Expulsion takes a 2/3rds vote, and it's highly rare for any party to reach that number in a large legislature in any state. That means that any vote to expel essentially has to be a bipartisan decision.

Expelling an unrepentant sex criminal who seems now to be running for office to take revenge on the "bitches who screwed up his life" seems like one of those cases where it's warranted.

[lfromnj]

Expulsion should only be done for events that happen in the middle of a term. If this POS is elected he still should be seated.

[brucejoel99]

Explosion should only be done for events that happen in the middle of a term. If this POS is elected he still should be seated.

This. Again, if this information had emerged after his election, then it would've been fair game. But now that it's all out & in the open, if the people still choose to elect him, then their decision should be respected if we still claim to respect, y'know, the idea of democracy.

[new_patomic]

Well it seems Ryan Grim finally decided it was time to be more of a 'reporter' instead of the guy downplaying revenge porn.

https://theintercept.com/2020/08/25/aaron-coleman-ex-girlfriend-assault/

His ex-girlfriend alleges just in the last year that he choked her.

Shocking.

[PSOL]

#LockHimUp

[7,052,770]

Explosion should only be done for events that happen in the middle of a term. If this POS is elected he still should be seated.

This. Again, if this information had emerged after his election, then it would've been fair game. But now that it's all out & in the open, if the people still choose to elect him, then their decision should be respected if we still claim to respect, y'know, the idea of democracy.

Basically this. Expulsion, refusal to seat, impeachment, etc., should only be for things that have happened since the last election, or that have come to light since then. If the voters want this sick, twisted creep to be their representative, and he remains eligible for the office, then that's who it should be.

[free my dawg]

https://twitter.com/powerpuff_curl/status/1298809168036589568?s=19

What a ****ing creep.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/powerpuff_curl/status/1298809168036589568?s=19

What a ****ing creep.

You mean to tell me that somebody who did awful things in the past & who doesn't take ownership of those actions today continued to do more awful things for all that time in between?

Truly surprising.

[tmthforu94]

To answer much of the speculation that has surrounded this thread:

https://www.cjonline.com/news/20200826/democrats-say-they-will-fight-against-seating-aaron-coleman-if-teen-wins-house-race

House Democrats reiterated Wednesday that they will fight against seating Aaron Coleman, the controversial Kansas House candidate, if he prevails in November.

...

The Party is continuing to follow the lead of the House Democratic Caucus to secure alternate representation for hardworking Kansans in HD-37,” Hyatt said. “The Party will in no way be helping Mr. Coleman’s candidacy or campaign.”

But threatening not to seat Coleman, in which the House would essentially refuse to recognize his election, would be an extremely rare move.

...

In order to remove a lawmaker, a formal complaint would first be needed to formally request discipline. A committee would then be formed and, after it makes recommendations, a two-thirds majority would be needed to expel that person.

Burdett Loomis, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Kansas, said such a move could be dicey because it would be effectively reversing the democratic choice made by voters.

It'd be an easier choice if all of this had been uncovered after November. I think the trickiest part is the fact voters could still very well choose him in November in spite of all of this since he is the only one on the ballot. If there are charges of domestic abuse and the likes brought against him, that could further simplify this. Very shameful what he did and an embarrassment to the state, I sympathize with the countless young women he has hurt.

[walleye26]

Can’t they write somebody in?

[brucejoel99]

Can’t they write somebody in?

The incumbent who lost the primary is running a write-in campaign, it's just a matter of whether or not it'll be successful at this point.

[Figueira]

Remember that district in Philly where only the Republican ended up on the ballot, and the Democrat ended up winning by like 90% anyway with a write-in campaign?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

https://twitter.com/Aaron4KS37/status/1302638089408589824
...Wow.

[brucejoel99]

What the f**k