Texas Presidential Polling…The Devil Is In The Crosstabs
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« on: August 05, 2020, 09:56:12 AM »

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Whenever there is a new poll of Texas released, there are a ton of hot takes on Twitter. Old believers of Texas as the great blue whale for the Democrats move to dismiss the poll, saying that Texas has looked good for Democrats in the past, but that they just can’t seem to pull it off. There are others who say that the numbers are real, and are a result of inevitable demographic shifts. Others dismiss Texas numbers as  not mattering, because if Texas is close, surely the election is already won for the Democrats.

So let’s look at all of these arguments, why they are right/wrong, what the actual contents of the poll (including the crosstabs, which get very little attention) are saying, and how you can extrapolate that into the broader electorate.

The first argument of new Texas polls, is that polls showing a small Biden lead now is wrong, and Trump will flip it back when he gains in the polls/ when likely voter screens are more prevalent. I’ve written about Likely Voter screens before, and why they may not hurt the Democrats as they have in past years, so I won’t write about that now, so instead I’ll talk about the first argument, that a small lead will not hold. Firstly, polls have underestimated the Democrats in Texas in 2016 and 2018, particularly in the 2018 Senate race, where Republican Senator Ted Cruz was expected to win by high single digits, only to cling to a ~2% win. Additionally, if you only believed the polls, there would be no Democratic representatives in TX-07 and TX-32, as both were polled by the NYT/Sienna, showing small GOP leads, along with a large lead for Will Hurd in the TX-23. Both the TX-07 and TX-32 were won by over 5 points, and the TX-23 turned into a nail biting finish on election night, which has (probably, at least in part) lead to the retirement of Will Hurd in 2020. Other people dismiss those numbers because they expect Trump to claw back some of his losses close to November. The problem with this assumption is that it is the same working assumption that analysts have had since Joe Biden won the nomination, and at every point it has yet to materialize. Since Biden locked up the nomination the pandemic has only gotten worse, and Trump has done nothing but lose ground almost every month. While there is likely a floor for the GOP in modern American politics, and while we are *probably* approaching that, there is no reason to think that floor doesn’t include a loss in Texas.

Other people will argue that the result in Texas doesn’t matter, as it is not a swing state. This argument is mostly correct, as even if Joe Biden were to win Texas in November it would not yet be a swing state, as it would still vote to the right of the nation even in a Biden win, and would surely not be the reason Biden would win the election. However, Biden winning Texas would be an important step for Texas’s inevitable journey on its way to swing state status. Given the swings in 2016, 2018, and very likely 2020, it is only a matter of time until Texas (along with Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina) are given the same important status as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. While that will certainly not happen in 2020, depending on how well Biden is able to do in Texas, that could happen as early as 2024, or even 2028.

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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2020, 02:04:20 PM »

I think Texas is trending left but still to right of country as a whole.  Amongst Hispanics, they always tend to for whatever reason have high undecideds, but those usually break Democrat.  On non-college Whites, I am skeptical Biden is gaining in Texas like Rust Belt.  This group votes quite differently in South than Midwest.  In South they are overwhelmingly white Evangelicals who always go massively GOP and still going heavily for Trump and a lot of them due to history are racist too so Trump's race baiting probably helps.  In Midwest, a sizeable portion of this group are Catholics, mainline Protestants, or non-religious and first two GOP has a much narrower grip on and latter tends to go heavily Democrat.  So if you split by white Evangelicals vs. whites who are not Evangelicals that would explain the difference.  Just look at Obama years, Obama was fairly competitive amongst whites in Midwest but got crushed in Southern states so unlike Black population and Hispanics outside Florida (GOP does a lot better there due to large Cuban population who vote GOP unlike other Hispanic groups), whites vary considerably based on region.

What I look at though is not just demographics, but geographical breakdown.  Texas suburbs are still way more conservative than Northern ones are.  Bush got around 70% in suburbs and while that has narrowed a lot, I still think Trump wins suburbs in Texas unlike in Northern states but probably by a smaller margin than GOP is used too.  Also some suburban counties will flip to Biden depending on population density, proximity to city center, and racial mix.  Tarrant County likely goes for Biden but Denton County stays Trump albeit narrower margin.  Biden wins Fort Bend County like Clinton but still falls well short in Montgomery County.

Finally there is the much ignored rural areas.  Texas is more urban than US is as a whole including key rust belt states, however GOP in rural Texas tends to run up the margins.  GOP usually gets in 80s and 90s in rural Texas and outside Rio Grande Valley, no reason to believe that will change.  In fact it was massive margins in rural Texas that saved Cruz.  By contrast in Midwest, GOP may win rural areas, but they aren't blowouts like in Texas.  And while most Americans live in urban and suburban areas, rural area margins still matter.  Run up margins enough in them, you can tip state as long as you don't lose by too much in metro areas while only get in 50s or 60s in rural areas, then Democrat strength in metro areas will overpower GOP rural vote. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2020, 02:18:20 PM »

Texas voted 0.4% to the left of Iowa in 2016. I think Iowa is gonna return to form somewhat and vote to the left of Texas again, perhaps 2-3 points or so.
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