PA, MI, WI (Hodas & Associates) - Biden +6, +12, +14
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Lisa's voting Biden
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« on: August 04, 2020, 11:14:00 AM »
« edited: August 04, 2020, 11:17:18 AM by LCameronOR »

PA
Biden - 51
Trump - 45

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/restoration/pages/448/attachments/original/1596556896/Banners_July2020_PA_07-22-2020.pdf

MI
Biden - 53
Trump - 41

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/restoration/pages/448/attachments/original/1596556627/Banners_MI_July2020_07-17-2020.pdf

WI
Biden - 52
Trump - 38

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/restoration/pages/448/attachments/original/1596557067/Banner-WI_20-3006.pdf

These polls were done in conjunction with Restoration PAC, which is a Republican group.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2020, 11:15:21 AM »

Wisconsin is way way too high.Other are reasonable.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2020, 11:21:21 AM »

No wonder Trump's triaging Michigan if this is what his own party's polls are finding.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2020, 11:22:30 AM »

PA is still within striking distance for Trump, Biden shouldn't take it for granted.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2020, 11:24:24 AM »

PA is still within striking distance for Trump, Biden shouldn't take it for granted.
I doubt he will
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2020, 11:37:09 AM »

Isn't this the same group who had that Trump +6 poll for PA or something a few months back
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Lisa's voting Biden
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2020, 11:43:14 AM »

Isn't this the same group who had that Trump +6 poll for PA or something a few months back
They had Trump +5 in their May 9-13 poll, but their June 8-11 poll had Biden +12.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2020, 11:59:44 AM »

Pretty interesting pattern with PA rightwards of WI, that we now have seen in several polls, though nowhere as clear as here (though this 8 point difference is most likely an outlier).
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2020, 12:05:08 PM »

Trump must immediately pour more money into DC.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2020, 12:07:22 PM »

The polling has been so strong in WI and MI that I'm actually starting to feel optimistic for once. I really do want to see more high quality polling in MN, ME, NH, and NV though. Don't want to take anything for granted
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2020, 12:31:58 PM »

Isn't this the same group who had that Trump +6 poll for PA or something a few months back
They had Trump +5 in their May 9-13 poll, but their June 8-11 poll had Biden +12.
Those are some bonkers swings given that the race has pretty much been rock steady during that period. Not something that inspires great confidence in this pollster.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2020, 01:17:15 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2020, 01:19:07 PM »


Hodas released those numbers though? What the hell happened? I don't think the PAC's numbers will be all that different from these ones.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2020, 01:21:05 PM »



Huh?
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2020, 01:21:35 PM »

Hodas released those numbers though? What the hell happened? I don't think the PAC's numbers will be all that different from these ones.

Yeah, makes no sense to me. The Hodas release looks legit.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2020, 01:25:02 PM »

Hodas released those numbers though? What the hell happened? I don't think the PAC's numbers will be all that different from these ones.

Yeah, makes no sense to me. The Hodas release looks legit.
Always the possibility that they got numbers they didn't like so they're going to "readjust" them OANN style.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2020, 01:43:49 PM »

Hodas released those numbers though? What the hell happened? I don't think the PAC's numbers will be all that different from these ones.

Yeah, makes no sense to me. The Hodas release looks legit.

Always the possibility that they got numbers they didn't like so they're going to "readjust" them OANN style.

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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2020, 02:57:04 PM »

Yet another poll that shows if anything WI is more safe than PA. Yet people still cling to this fantastical notion that WI is somehow significantly more likely to stay with Trump.
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2020, 03:51:37 PM »

Yet another poll that shows if anything WI is more safe than PA. Yet people still cling to this fantastical notion that WI is somehow significantly more likely to stay with Trump.

Post-2016 Stress Disorder.
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2020, 05:30:17 PM »

Good for Trump
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2020, 06:10:18 PM »

Yet another poll that shows if anything WI is more safe than PA. Yet people still cling to this fantastical notion that WI is somehow significantly more likely to stay with Trump.

Post-2016 Stress Disorder.

It's true. I was convinced of that too until fairly recently. Pennsylvania meanwhile seems to remain as the truest battleground of the three Obama-Trump states that gave him the win, though Biden has had a pretty consistent lead there too.
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2020, 06:52:58 PM »

Yet another poll that shows if anything WI is more safe than PA. Yet people still cling to this fantastical notion that WI is somehow significantly more likely to stay with Trump.

Post-2016 Stress Disorder.

It's true. I was convinced of that too until fairly recently. Pennsylvania meanwhile seems to remain as the truest battleground of the three Obama-Trump states that gave him the win, though Biden has had a pretty consistent lead there too.

Eh, there's been plenty of Pennsylvania 8-11 Biden polls.
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2020, 05:17:12 AM »

Pretty interesting pattern with PA rightwards of WI, that we now have seen in several polls, though nowhere as clear as here (though this 8 point difference is most likely an outlier).

SW PA is turning into WV.
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2020, 05:17:54 AM »

So it looks like 538 removed them (or didn't add them to begin with?) It feels like they're gonna pull an OANN here
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2020, 05:47:54 AM »

They've just released the 'real' numbers and... they're virtually the same!!

MICHIGAN
Trump: 40.3%
Biden: 51.3%
Change from June: Trump +6.5 percentage points

WISCONSIN
Trump: 37.9%
Biden: 50.3%
Change from June: Trump +4.2 percentage points

PENNSYLVANIA
Trump: 44.3%
Biden: 49.7%
Change from June: Trump +6.3 percentage points

Apparently its a massive swing to Trump since June. I don't even remember a poll from June.
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