Would you ever vote for a Republican presidential ticket?

[Suburbia]

Has Trumpification of the GOP turned you off where you will vote Democratic or Independent for the rest of your life, or does it depend?

Me: It depends who the Republican is

[OSR stands with Israel]

This is a dumb question given how old most of the posters on here are and how the parties will adapt over our lifetimes . It’s very possible many of the solid red avatar posters would vote gop in their lifetime .


A better question would be next 10 years and answer for that to me is obviously but not for Trump, Trump Jr , Tucker

[Ferguson97]

In a hypothetical Bill Weld vs. Rashida Talib election, then sure.

In 99% of realistic scenarios, no.

For me to support a GOP candidate they'd have to support, at minimum, LGBT rights, abortion rights, universal healthcare, liberal immigration reform, criminal justice reform, expanding voting rights, expand welfare benefits, increase the minimum wage, and believe in climate change. And the Democrat would have to be a "no I literally mean abolish the police and the existence of the US military is bad" type of socialist Democrat.

So no, I don't see a realistic scenario where I vote GOP.

[StateBoiler]

This is a dumb question given how old most of the posters on here are and how the parties will adapt over our lifetimes.

Echoing this, but the first post of this thread I feel symbolizes the immaturity of this forum in general and how it has grown over the past half-decade. You had one Democratic poster last week in the discussion about the Gohmert motion in the House that was so ignorant about how politics worked he said change in what political organizations stand for was easy to do.

I voted for McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012. My other 3 presidential elections were a Libertarian twice and the Reform Party once.

[darklordoftech]

Never in the 21st Century.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Depends on candidate/ticket and if i will ever live there.

[MarkD]

I already have voted for them three times -- 1992, 1996, and 2000.

And I could vote for them again, depending on what they say, and (this is just as important) whether I would have eminent reasons for believing that they sincerely believe it, they mean it, and will actually do it.

In 1987, Ronald Reagan said he was nominating Judge Robert Bork to the Supreme Court because Bork "shares my view that judges' personal preferences and values should not be part of their constitutional interpretations. The guiding principle of judicial restraint recognizes that under the Constitution it is the exclusive province of the legislatures to enact laws and the role of the courts to interpret them." Seventeen years later, George W. Bush said virtually identical things about what kind of people he would appoint to the Court (this was during the televised presidential debates between he and Sen. John Kerry). Nonetheless, despite the fact that Bush said words that I wanted to hear, I did not vote for his re-election in 2004, because I had turned cynical and distrusting -- I didn't believe that he actually meant it and would actually do it. I didn't vote for him in 2004 because of the fact of what the Supreme Court did in Bush v. Gore, a decision that was supported by all of Ronald Reagan's appointees to the Court. That was a decision, by the Court, which certainly had nothing to do with "judicial restraint," which had nothing to do with fulfilling the intended meaning of the provision in the Constitution that the Court was purporting to "interpret," and which had nothing to do with logically following the precedents that the Court was purporting to follow. Bush v. Gore, in short, was aggressive, partisan, judicial activism -- activism run amok. It was a decision that devastated me, and drove me away from supporting the GOP ever again.

Unless Republicans say Reagan's words (from 1987) again and Bush's words (from 2004) again, AND unless they PROVE that they MEAN IT and will actually appoint people to the Court who will DO IT, I won't vote for them again. I need truly objective interpreters of the law (like Bork, Judge Learned Hand, Justices Oliver Wendell Holmes, Benjamin Cardozo, and Hugo Black) appointed to the Supreme Court. See my thread entitled "I Ate the Supreme Court" under the Constitution and Law board.

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Not in any timeline in the current reality we live in. The party that has enabled and capitulated to a fascist will never put up a candidate that I could ever vote for.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Arnold Schwarzenegger,  Marco Rubio or John Kasich

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Arnold Schwarzenegger,  Marco Rubio or John Kasich

You know what? I'd vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger for President too. If he's ever the Republican nominee, I will vote for him.

[Thank you for being a friend...]

I will never ever vote for a Republican presidential ticket even if I happen to think the candidate is not that bad (which won't be for a very long time) because I know who they'll be appointing to Cabinet positions and as judges.  Even Sainted Charlie Baker (and I think he's a nice guy) with his 200% approval rating did not get my vote because I was afraid of who he might be appointing to important positions.

[Canis]

Arnold Schwarzenegger,  Marco Rubio or John Kasich

You know what? I'd vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger for President too. If he's ever the Republican nominee, I will vote for him.

LOL Just because hes against trump doesn't mean hes paticularly moderate or liberal he was an absolutely terrible governor who massively cut the budget for HIV and AIDS program leading to many people dying as a result Arnold would make a terrible president hes better than trump and 85+% of the GOP but that means absolutely nothing now
https://www.positivelypositive.ca/hiv-aids-news/AHF-Schwarzenegger-s_Catastrophic_AIDS_Funding_Cuts_to_be_Protested.html

[brucejoel99]

If the Democratic Party ever ran a populist & protectionist nationalist without any prior military or government service whose policies spark social unrest & who makes many false &/or misleading statements (many of which are racially charged &/or racist) during his campaign, then yes, I'd vote for the Republican presidential ticket.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Probably not any time soon, and I say that as someone who voted for McCain in 2008 and doesn't regret having so voted.

[Hope For A New Era]

Depends on if they can raise George HW Bush from the dead.

Maybe throw in Shelley Moore Capito as his running mate or something, and have them run against a hardline left-wing populist nationalist protectionist ticket (far beyond the most extreme Sanders ever got).

[Battista Minola 1616]

This is a dumb question given how old most of the posters on here are and how the parties will adapt over our lifetimes . It’s very possible many of the solid red avatar posters would vote gop in their lifetime .


A better question would be next 10 years and answer for that to me is obviously but not for Trump, Trump Jr , Tucker

This.


I am really disheartened by the amount of absolutistic answers by red avatars.

[Dr. MB]

Doubt it. They’d have to redo their image and most of their policies. But who knows what could happen in a few decades.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Not in the foreseeable future. Probably never in my lifetime.

[TML]

If they decide to become more like the conservative parties in Europe & Canada by doing things like embracing universal health care, accepting the scientific consensus on climate change, etc., then I would consider voting for them.

[Calthrina950]

Yes, but the Party needs to move past Donald Trump and all of his buffoonery, and put him clearly in the past. And it will need to make greater outreach to minorities. Until that happens, I will probably be voting either third-party or Democratic.

[McGarnagle]

Never under any circumstances will I vote Republican. I made that determination during the Bush presidency.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

Arnold Schwarzenegger,  Marco Rubio or John Kasich

You know what? I'd vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger for President too. If he's ever the Republican nominee, I will vote for him.

LOL Just because hes against trump doesn't mean hes paticularly moderate or liberal he was an absolutely terrible governor who massively cut the budget for HIV and AIDS program leading to many people dying as a result Arnold would make a terrible president hes better than trump and 85+% of the GOP but that means absolutely nothing now
https://www.positivelypositive.ca/hiv-aids-news/AHF-Schwarzenegger-s_Catastrophic_AIDS_Funding_Cuts_to_be_Protested.html

I don’t know how to explain to you that he will never be the GOP nominee for President because he wasn’t born in this country.

[Canis]

Arnold Schwarzenegger,  Marco Rubio or John Kasich

You know what? I'd vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger for President too. If he's ever the Republican nominee, I will vote for him.

LOL Just because hes against trump doesn't mean hes paticularly moderate or liberal he was an absolutely terrible governor who massively cut the budget for HIV and AIDS program leading to many people dying as a result Arnold would make a terrible president hes better than trump and 85+% of the GOP but that means absolutely nothing now
https://www.positivelypositive.ca/hiv-aids-news/AHF-Schwarzenegger-s_Catastrophic_AIDS_Funding_Cuts_to_be_Protested.html

I don’t know how to explain to you that he will never be the GOP nominee for President because he wasn’t born in this country.

I know that don't try to act like thats the reason you said youd vote for him tho

[S019]

Maybe, I could definitely see it down the line, but it's really reliant on Republicans not continuing to support Trumpism, but I'm sure there will be at least one election with a socially liberal, moderate Republican against a very left-wing Democrat in my lifetime, and in that case, I'd vote Republican.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

Arnold Schwarzenegger,  Marco Rubio or John Kasich

You know what? I'd vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger for President too. If he's ever the Republican nominee, I will vote for him.

LOL Just because hes against trump doesn't mean hes paticularly moderate or liberal he was an absolutely terrible governor who massively cut the budget for HIV and AIDS program leading to many people dying as a result Arnold would make a terrible president hes better than trump and 85+% of the GOP but that means absolutely nothing now
https://www.positivelypositive.ca/hiv-aids-news/AHF-Schwarzenegger-s_Catastrophic_AIDS_Funding_Cuts_to_be_Protested.html

I don’t know how to explain to you that he will never be the GOP nominee for President because he wasn’t born in this country.

I know that don't try to act like thats the reason you said youd vote for him tho

Why would I, someone who said earlier in this exact thread that I would never vote for a Republican in my life, vote for a Republican