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Unconditional Surrender Truman
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« on: July 27, 2020, 02:29:09 PM »

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     Soap is dumb. Here's why.
« on: July 27, 1347, 2:32:41 pm »
So if anything can be used to wash your hands, including water, then how effective is this ‘rule’ anyway? And witches are exempt? I really do not understand. The Plague has been unmasked. #SecurityTheater

The Plague isn’t that deadly, and it’s barely harmful. Peasants are dumb.

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Unconditional Surrender Truman
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2020, 10:13:29 PM »

With regard to obesity, you have to take into account as well the changes to everyday life for the average American that transcend individual to become societal choices —the move away from work that requires regular sustained physical activity, for instance. Covering gym memberships isn't inherently a bad idea, but money isn't the only factor that makes going to the gym practically difficult for some people. Ultimately I'm very suspicious of any model that proposes a single standard that claims to separate the deserving from the unfortunate. (Maybe that's why I'm not a right-libertarian. Tongue)
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2020, 09:35:51 AM »

Here is a compromise, if you don’t wear a mask, you will be prioritized last for medical treatment.
Since Covid isn’t that deadly, DTT surely supports this compromise, right?

If you’re overweight and continue to eat McDonald’s....follow your own logic, which seems to also be dumb.

I 100% agree. People who treat their bodies like s**t, eat crap, never exercise, smoke, and drink to excess should expect to pay far more for medical treatment than someone who takes care of themselves. I mean, what would be the alternative? Treating everybody the same way, regardless of their life decisions? IDK bruh, sounds like socialism to me.

That's our job as health professionals. But I can't say that I don't side-eye when someone comes in whose BMI is over 30, blood pressure 150/90, fasting blood sugar over 136, and he/she claims it's "all genetic".  

To be clear, I'm not saying that a doctor should violate the Hippocratic Oath. Insurance providers, on the other hand, have no obligation to keep rates low for people who mistreat their bodies. That would be like a car insurance company ignoring someone who gets in a fender-bender every month.

But how do you enforce that standard, and who decides whether a person is making too many bad health decisions versus bad genetics?  Also, it's not an accident that poor people and especially people who live in food deserts are, on average, fatter and less healthy than wealthies, and that fresh produce and non-crap food are a great deal more expensive than the crap food.

While I sympathize, exercise is free.
 

Leisure time is not.
Not to mention, not everyone lives in the suburbs where it is possible to go for a run in the evening without getting mugged.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2020, 11:07:58 AM »

Here is a compromise, if you don’t wear a mask, you will be prioritized last for medical treatment.
Since Covid isn’t that deadly, DTT surely supports this compromise, right?

If you’re overweight and continue to eat McDonald’s....follow your own logic, which seems to also be dumb.

I 100% agree. People who treat their bodies like s**t, eat crap, never exercise, smoke, and drink to excess should expect to pay far more for medical treatment than someone who takes care of themselves. I mean, what would be the alternative? Treating everybody the same way, regardless of their life decisions? IDK bruh, sounds like socialism to me.

That's our job as health professionals. But I can't say that I don't side-eye when someone comes in whose BMI is over 30, blood pressure 150/90, fasting blood sugar over 136, and he/she claims it's "all genetic".  

To be clear, I'm not saying that a doctor should violate the Hippocratic Oath. Insurance providers, on the other hand, have no obligation to keep rates low for people who mistreat their bodies. That would be like a car insurance company ignoring someone who gets in a fender-bender every month.

But how do you enforce that standard, and who decides whether a person is making too many bad health decisions versus bad genetics?  Also, it's not an accident that poor people and especially people who live in food deserts are, on average, fatter and less healthy than wealthies, and that fresh produce and non-crap food are a great deal more expensive than the crap food.

While I sympathize, exercise is free.
 

Leisure time is not.
Not to mention, not everyone lives in the suburbs where it is possible to go for a run in the evening without getting mugged.

Eh, how true is that description actually?. Judging from that sentence, you'd expect the US to be like Mexico, Nicaragua or Venezuela with people getting mugged almost always?

I never said it was the whole country —but yes, in some areas of the inner cities is is absolutely true. Even in some rural areas, there are places where you simply do not go after nightfall.
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