Utah 2020 Redistricting

[Nyvin]

This state will be exhibit A on why Democrats unilaterally disarming when it comes to gerrymandering is real stupid idea.

[Nyvin]

Shameless bump -

Here's a normal map one could expect out of a fair commission



https://davesredistricting.org/join/904d1950-7c92-48cb-bc19-7f748ff5eff1

Just to note - the four counties north and northwest of SLC almost perfectly form a district and considering the arrangement of the Salt Lake Desert in the west and mountains in the east they also form a near perfect COI too.

This map has 1 municipality split.

[Nyvin]

Shameless bump -

Here's a normal map one could expect out of a fair commission



https://davesredistricting.org/join/904d1950-7c92-48cb-bc19-7f748ff5eff1

Just to note - the four counties north and northwest of SLC almost perfectly form a district and considering the arrangement of the Salt Lake Desert in the west and mountains in the east they also form a near perfect COI too.

This map has 1 municipality split.

One problem with this map, there's no road connection between Rich and Morgan or Summit counties. Have to either put it with the 1st or have the 2nd take a bit of Weber.

Not sure what you mean here, there's roads going from Wasatch to Summit to Morgan to Rich (the road going from Summit to Morgan is a major highway...).



Rich county is isolated from everything really, so nothing for that county will be perfect.

[Nyvin]

Shameless bump -

Here's a normal map one could expect out of a fair commission



https://davesredistricting.org/join/904d1950-7c92-48cb-bc19-7f748ff5eff1

Just to note - the four counties north and northwest of SLC almost perfectly form a district and considering the arrangement of the Salt Lake Desert in the west and mountains in the east they also form a near perfect COI too.

This map has 1 municipality split.

One problem with this map, there's no road connection between Rich and Morgan or Summit counties. Have to either put it with the 1st or have the 2nd take a bit of Weber.

Not sure what you mean here, there's roads going from Wasatch to Summit to Morgan to Rich (the road going from Summit to Morgan is a major highway...).



Rich county is isolated from everything really, so nothing for that county will be perfect.

You misread, I was saying that neither Summit nor Morgan have a road connection to Rich.

There is a road connection, it looks like it's a small road, but it is there.   There's certainly a much better connection from Morgan to Rich than from Cache to Rich!   Again - Rich County is just in general a very isolated, remote area...there is no ideal place to connect it to.

[Nyvin]

https://twitter.com/LoganZT1/status/1429913706033553417?s=20

Interestingly, the map in the image appears to have a uber-blue SLC+Park City district.

Yeah, it also goes out to Uintah County in the eastern border,  weird map, but still outstanding for Dems if this actually happens (big if).

[Nyvin]

Their map so far:

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[Nyvin]

Their maps are crazy, but at least they're intent on giving northern Salt Lake County it's own district or putting it with Summit and some small eastern rurals.    No crazy three way split.

[Nyvin]

The Green Team just maintained the current gerrymander more or less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNcBu8SLAZ8

[Nyvin]

Tried making a map, and it feels like the obvious option is just having three seats in the vicinity of Salt Lake City and the fourth seat for the rest of Utah.

States rarely, if ever, do those "surround" districts with urban areas in the middle. 

Also northern Utah (Layton/Ogden/Logan area) really should have it's own district and not clumped in with the south.

[Nyvin]

The Independent Commission's draft maps are available on their website. Direct links:

• Congress
• State Senate
• State House
• State Board of Education

They're... kinda all weird/bad?

The state legislative redistricting committee won't publish any draft maps until they've concluded their public hearings, which begin this week.

As of yesterday, both the commission and the legislative committee have started accepting maps from the public. Links to submit maps are found here for the Independent Commission, and here for the legislative committee. If you export your DRA maps as block assignment CSVs, you should be able to import them into the ESRI redistricting software that both groups are using.

The congressional one is just a simple least change map.

[Nyvin]

Those would all be deep red…

So much for “independent commission” fighting gerrymandering

The congressional one is just a simple least change map.

Both of you seem to have missed the bar along the top that allows you to switch between different draft maps; there's something like ten different ones for Congress, only one of which can be construed as a least change map. The commission divided into three groups a couple weeks ago which are drawing different maps. The map shown by default is the one that Rob Bishop's team drew and was discussed earlier in this thread; I doubt there's any significance to it being the default map visible. The draft maps will be revised based on feedback from hearings across the state (which started yesterday) and then narrowed down to three in November.

Oh okay,  Orange Team Draft 1 is okay, not bad.   Tooele County can go with SLC.   Not the most conventional approach but it works.

[Nyvin]

I'm interested to hear your thoughts. If Ben McAdams had won last year's election, would the redistricting have been the same, or would a Safe D seat have been created?

Doubt it would've changed much.   They did the same thing in 2010 with Matheson and he won in 2010.  He was a much more entrenched incumbent too.

[Nyvin]

Utah has some gigantic congressional districts.   Here's a map with only two very small municipality splits.   There is a road from Morgan into Weber county for the 328 people needed to be removed from UT-1 too.

At least this map is better than splitting Millcreek 4 ways.

https://davesredistricting.org/join/a24ff97e-2a11-4d25-8c8c-4a4f2a899371