Could Biden's support of affirmative action cost him Asian votes?

[QAnonKelly]

Don’t like half of Asians live in just two states (CA&NY)?

[支持核绿派 (Greens4Nuclear)]

Don’t like half of Asians live in just two states (CA&NY)?

+ TX

[Progressive Pessimist]

Only in your wildest reactionary fantasies does the world work this way, SirWoodbury.

[Badger]

Can we stop this trend of white nationalists starting threads thinking they know how non-white voters think?

You do realize that I have black neighbors?

Oh God how I laughed at this. The complete lack of self-awareness. (Chef's kiss)

[PSOL]

It especially isn’t happening considering that Donald Trump unleashed a new wave of yellow peril affecting all Asian Americans.

[Former President tack50]

I wonder which direction these lines are going to move. Hmmmmmmmmm.

I mean, past trends do not predict future trends necesarily. He almost certainly won't but hypothetically Trump could rebound among Asian voters

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

I wonder which direction these lines are going to move. Hmmmmmmmmm.

I mean, past trends do not predict future trends necesarily. He almost certainly won't but hypothetically Trump could rebound among Asian voters

There is no evidence that he will "rebound" with Asian voters. Also, in 2018, 77% of Asian voters voted for Democratic candidates. In just 2 years, that number will NOT swing significantly.

Trump is the worst GOP presidential candidate possible for the Republicans to try and make inroads with Asian voters.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

I wonder which direction these lines are going to move. Hmmmmmmmmm.

I mean, past trends do not predict future trends necesarily. He almost certainly won't but hypothetically Trump could rebound among Asian voters

This is the only right answer.



Not because I literally think every other answer is wrong, but God how I am getting sick with people who say that 2020 will be the exact continuation of 2016 and 2018 with no room for difference. Every election is different and has its strange quirks.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

I wonder which direction these lines are going to move. Hmmmmmmmmm.

I mean, past trends do not predict future trends necesarily. He almost certainly won't but hypothetically Trump could rebound among Asian voters

This is the only right answer.



Not because I literally think every other answer is wrong, but God how I am getting sick with people who say that 2020 will be the exact continuation of 2016 and 2018 with no room for difference. Every election is different and has its strange quirks.

And do you have any evidence to support your claim? Why will Asian voters make a significant trend in the opposite direction? Please provide me with VALID evidence.

[Former President tack50]

And do you have any evidence to support your claim? Why will Asian voters make a significant trend in the opposite direction? Please provide me with VALID evidence.

That is not the point. The point is that past trends do not predict future trends.

It is very likely that Trump will not make gains among Asian-American voters, though I do think Asian Americans will trend Republican, even if it is only in the same way African Americans will trend Republican (if the PV goes from Clinton+2 to say, Biden+8 while Asian Americans remain at 79-19, then they will trend right despite Trump not making gains)

However, using "look at these lines trending" is wrong. Trends happen until they suddenly don't. That is a very common statistical fallacy

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

And do you have any evidence to support your claim? Why will Asian voters make a significant trend in the opposite direction? Please provide me with VALID evidence.

That is not the point. The point is that past trends do not predict future trends.

It is very likely that Trump will not make gains among Asian-American voters, though I do think Asian Americans will trend Republican, even if it is only in the same way African Americans will trend Republican (if the PV goes from Clinton+2 to say, Biden+8 while Asian Americans remain at 79-19, then they will trend right despite Trump not making gains)

However, using "look at these lines trending" is wrong. Trends happen until they suddenly don't. That is a very common statistical fallacy

So in other words you're just arguing semantics.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

And do you have any evidence to support your claim? Why will Asian voters make a significant trend in the opposite direction? Please provide me with VALID evidence.

My claim? You are arguing against a strawman.
My only claim about Asian Americans is that I would not find at all shocking if Trump gained 5 points among them, or if Biden gained 5 points among them, and maybe a range even wider. I don't have any evidence for anything, so I keep my predictions wide open. And no, 2018 is not evidence of anything. The 2010 CNN exit poll apparently had Asian Americans voting D 58-40. That was not at all predictive of 2012.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

However, using "look at these lines trending" is wrong. Trends happen until they suddenly don't. That is a very common statistical fallacy

Yes, that is exactly my point.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

If you think trump will gain with Asian voters, you are absolutely delusional. Period

[BaldEagle1991]

Doubtful.
Especially considering Trump’s race baiting with Covid-19.
Maybe IF the economy was doing well, IF there was no virus, and IF Affirmative Action became one of the most relevant issues of the day, then maybe Trump could win over some Asians. That’s not happening right now.

Top it off some segment of Asian Americans are dying from COVID-19 at a very high rate cause a good portion of them are healthcare workers.

Don’t like half of Asians live in just two states (CA&NY)?

+ TX

+ FL

[支持核绿派 (Greens4Nuclear)]

Don’t like half of Asians live in just two states (CA&NY)?

+ TX

+ FL

I was going off 2010 Census data, and I don't think FL has the next highest number of Asians after TX. But Wiki might not be up to date, so it's possible FL has more Asian Americans than HI or WA at this point.

[bagelman]

Yes, but they'll be voting in California.

[BaldEagle1991]

Don’t like half of Asians live in just two states (CA&NY)?

+ TX

+ FL

I was going off 2010 Census data, and I don't think FL has the next highest number of Asians after TX. But Wiki might not be up to date, so it's possible FL has more Asian Americans than HI or WA at this point.

Lots of Vietnamese in the FL panhandle, Filipinos in Jacksonville and Orlando.

Miami is almost Asian-less though.

[Lord Admirale]

This is peak Atlas

[支持核绿派 (Greens4Nuclear)]

Don’t like half of Asians live in just two states (CA&NY)?

+ TX

+ FL

I was going off 2010 Census data, and I don't think FL has the next highest number of Asians after TX. But Wiki might not be up to date, so it's possible FL has more Asian Americans than HI or WA at this point.

Lots of Vietnamese in the FL panhandle, Filipinos in Jacksonville and Orlando.

Miami is almost Asian-less though.

Metro Miami is around 2.5% Asian, which isn't that much less than 2.8% across the entire state. But FL Asians being mostly Viet, Filipino, and Chinese checks out.

[BaldEagle1991]

Yes, but they'll be voting in California.

+ New York, Texas, and Florida.

[支持核绿派 (Greens4Nuclear)]

Yes, but they'll be voting in California.

+ New York, Texas, and Florida.

I don't think any of those states have affirmative action referenda this year. So the anti-AA Asian voters in those states won't be as motivated to vote R based on that issue alone.

This doesn't strike me as much of a live issue right now outside of California.

[Ogre Mage]

In the wake of COVID-19, unemployment among Asian-Americans (which was previously the lowest of any racial group) has skyrocketed more than any other group.  There has been a wave of anti-Asian hate attacks.  And President White Supremacy is out there yammering about 'kung-flu" and "Chinese virus."  He has plunged the U.S. into severe crisis. 

Obama and Hillary Clinton supported affirmative action and did well with Asian voters.  Republicans trying to distract from their Titanic failure of a white supremacist president only expose their own foolishness.

There is a reason why all (voting) Asian-American members of Congress are Democrats. 

[Alben Barkley]

Can we stop this trend of white nationalists starting threads thinking they know how non-white voters think?

You do realize that I have black neighbors?

What? This is literally the “I have a black friend” argument.

Aside from the observable fact you’re supporting a racist president, if you have to point that out, well you might be racist.

It's not even black friend, it's black NEIGHBORS. For all we know he could have never spoken to these neighbors. Or burned a cross in their front yard...

Saying "I live within a mile of some black people!" really does not help your case if you're trying to prove you're not racist.

[OBD]

Word in the Asian community is that some people are voting for Trump because Biden supports BLM - yes, it's incredibly repulsive and racist and I want no part of it, but that's what I've been hearing.

As others have said, though, with Asians concentrated in safe states like California and New York, this shouldn't be a huge issue for Biden.