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Secretary of State Liberal Hack
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« on: April 03, 2021, 12:43:28 AM »

Is Alaska RCV not a queer variation of RCV that includes a Top-4?

If so it's virtually impossible that she would receive less than 25% of the vote, so why all the hot takes?
yeah but the top-4 is also a RCV and if she doesn't get enough first place votes she get eliminated and her voter preferences get redistrubited. It's one of the peculiure features of RCV that while Murkowski might win a 1-1 race against all of the top-4 canidates by being all the other peoples second choice she can still loose if she isn't enough people's first choice to avoid getting eliminated first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_winner_criterion
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2021, 02:31:41 AM »

Is Alaska RCV not a queer variation of RCV that includes a Top-4?

If so it's virtually impossible that she would receive less than 25% of the vote, so why all the hot takes?
yeah but the top-4 is also a RCV and if she doesn't get enough first place votes she get eliminated and her voter preferences get redistrubited. It's one of the peculiure features of RCV that while Murkowski might win a 1-1 race against all of the top-4 canidates by being all the other peoples second choice she can still loose if she isn't enough people's first choice to avoid getting eliminated first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_winner_criterion

Though I also find the mathematics of election fascinating (and even made it the topic of my university studies), in this case the 2010 result alone shows us that Murkowski has at one point been the top choice of an actual majority of the Alaskan electorate.
Possibly the only one in the whole country, along with Sanders and King.
2010 was a lifetime ago with regards to political polarization. Partisan identit has become far more important and split ticket voting has collapsed.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2021, 04:04:45 AM »

2010 was a lifetime ago with regards to political polarization. Partisan identit has become far more important and split ticket voting has collapsed.
How are ticket splitting trends related to GOP primaries?
There's no GOP primary, it's gonna be a blanket primary followed by a top-4 RCV. It's critical for her to come at least third in terms of First Preferences. If a strong Democrat and Trumpist canidate runs, she can be squesshed into being eliminated first and loosing.

The decline of split-ticket voting hints that voters might not be as favourable toward her type of canidates as they were in 2010.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2021, 11:51:56 PM »

You can criticize Joe Manchin politically, but maybe endorsement is just out of personal friendship and not coming from any political motive? It's actually kinda sad there aren't more crossparty friendships in congress anymore, as opposed to 40-50 years ago. If I was a senator and certain blue avatar posters here would be my colleagues, I may also endorse them, especially if said race isn't determining control of the senate. But even in this case, it probably wouldn't matter much for the outcome anyway (Susan Collins obviously didn't win reelection because of Manchin).
Why even run for office in that case ?. Aren't you there to have your ideological inclinations be translated into policy ?
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