GOP Internals: Up less than 5 in Montana, Down in Maine, Georgia and Kansas
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« on: July 02, 2020, 06:25:08 PM »
« edited: July 03, 2020, 06:50:55 PM by Senator YE »
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Private R polls show the president struggling even in conservative states, leading Mr. Biden by less than five points in Montana and trailing him in Georgia and even Kansas, according to G.O.P. officials who have seen the data
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2020, 06:25:43 PM »
Love that.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2020, 06:27:42 PM »
Manhattan, KS more D than Manhattan, NY time.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2020, 06:30:00 PM »
Quote from: ON Progressive on July 02, 2020, 06:27:42 PM
Manhattan, KS more D than Manhattan, NY time.

If Kansas votes for Biden, I'll vow to drink a Manhattan in celebration!
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2020, 06:31:02 PM »
Trump's campaign song really ought to be the 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' theme or 'The Price is Right' losing horn
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2020, 06:35:45 PM »
kansas swinging by 20 points would be very woke lol

d trifecta when
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2020, 06:38:12 PM »
I'd love to believe it, but these internals are being conducted by McLaughlin.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2020, 06:40:58 PM »
Quote from: TiltsAreUnderrated on July 02, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
I'd love to believe it, but these internals are being conducted by McLaughlin.

I know, but just the fact they are so embarrassing to Trump at all is delightful enough.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2020, 06:42:28 PM »
Quote from: TiltsAreUnderrated on July 02, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
I'd love to believe it, but these internals are being conducted by McLaughlin.

Oh lmao.

But are we sure these are Trump internals or internals from other Republican campaigns/groups? The article doesn't necessarily say the internals are from the Trump campaign.
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2020, 06:45:29 PM »
blue kansas is real ?
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2020, 06:46:00 PM »
Like I said, I don’t buy the Trump +14 poll, and it’s definitely closer than that right now. Maybe not this close, but Trump +8 or something very close to that (with narrow but consistent leads for Gianforte and Bullock).
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2020, 06:47:31 PM »
Quote from: TiltsAreUnderrated on July 02, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
I'd love to believe it, but these internals are being conducted by McLaughlin.

That should make them skewed to be more favorable to Trump if anything then.

Plus I bet the campaign wants actual polls that are reasonably accurate to work with. Even if they delude the public or even Trump himself with fake polls.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2020, 06:47:57 PM »
KANSAS?!?

That only happens if Biden is up, like, 15 nationally.
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2020, 06:48:36 PM »
Quote from: darthpi on July 02, 2020, 06:47:57 PM
KANSAS?!?

That only happens if Biden is up, like, 15 nationally.

Which isn’t far off from where high quality polls have found him lately.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2020, 06:49:44 PM »
The article says the Trump campaign is keeping him happy by telling him he’s doing well in Maine lol.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2020, 06:50:58 PM »
Quote from: darthpi on July 02, 2020, 06:47:57 PM
KANSAS?!?

That only happens if Biden is up, like, 15 nationally.

I don’t think he’ll actually lose the state, but this should give the people who think KS-SEN is Safe R with Marshall pause.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2020, 06:57:03 PM »
Dems are gonna win GA
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2020, 06:59:34 PM »
Where's the proof that McLaughlin did those?

We know Trump paid McLaughlin to do *some* internal polling, but it doesn't mean that they are doing *all* the internal polling.

Meanwhile, some people think these are fake (Trump team making it up) but I don't buy that. They wouldn't embarrass themselves by adding in Kansas.

Montana is believable. Obama nearly won it in 2008.

Kansas - yeah, I understand it voted wildly for Trump last time. But KS also seems like a very moderate Republican state. Governor and Prez are not the same thing, but they did vote for Laura Kelly. It IS possible. And it's entirely possible that a lot of those moderate Republicans completely soured on Trump.

People like to keep assuming that things like that can't happen just b/c of a state's recent history. When some polls show Biden up 14% nationally... honestly, anything is possible at this point. We're in an unprecedented situation with a historically unpopular president.
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2020, 07:00:15 PM »
Quote from: Alben Barkley on July 02, 2020, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: darthpi on July 02, 2020, 06:47:57 PM
KANSAS?!?

That only happens if Biden is up, like, 15 nationally.

Which isn’t far off from where high quality polls have found him lately.

Yeah, why are people acting as if that's a surprise? We've had multiple polls now of him near or at 14.
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2020, 07:01:44 PM »
Quote from: wbrocks67 on July 02, 2020, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: Alben Barkley on July 02, 2020, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: darthpi on July 02, 2020, 06:47:57 PM
KANSAS?!?

That only happens if Biden is up, like, 15 nationally.

Which isn’t far off from where high quality polls have found him lately.

Yeah, why are people acting as if that's a surprise? We've had multiple polls now of him near or at 14.

I mean, the averages still have the national margin closer to 10, but yeah.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2020, 07:13:14 PM »
We've had Biden up slightly in Georgia for a few weeks now, but have yet to see him lead in Kansas. It's gotten close under a surge turnout model, but never a lead.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2020, 07:15:41 PM »
Quote from: Pollster on July 02, 2020, 07:13:14 PM
We've had Biden up slightly in Georgia for a few weeks now, but have yet to see him lead in Kansas. It's gotten close under a surge turnout model, but never a lead.

What polling company do you work for? How close has he been in Kansas? <5? <10?
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2020, 07:21:59 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2020, 07:25:17 PM »
Biden is on track to be LBJ in '64 lol?
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2020, 07:38:15 PM »
I have a feeling we can have a diverse election. Where TX and GA can vote to left of NC, WI, AZ and FL.

Dallas is becoming an international city and is the 4th largest city in the US outside of LA, IL and NY
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