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« on: June 30, 2020, 11:39:36 PM »

It's 2030, Harris has just endured her six year itch midterm (ten year itch if you count biden), but at least she has maintained control of the house and senate on paper. Republicans have continued to have a brand problem, and although they have managed to gain near 80% margins among non-college educated whites, literally no other demographic supports them. Thus, Republicans are actually firmly shut out in the house and the senate even with democratic support waning. Instead, Harris has had to campaign very intensely in some of the safest democratic districts in the nation as leftists and business alike have tried to undermine her control of the party. To this end, they were largely successful as an unprecedented number of democratic incumbents went down, a couple even to third parties like socialist alternative and the working class party in the general election, who are now looking to caucus with the democrats out of convenience.

However, regardless of the makeup of the halls of power, Republicans in most of the major states have begun a mass movement to boycott the elections, seeing them as a waste of time and rife with fraud since democratic control was seemingly unshakeable, and even the recent setbacks for mainline democrats have upset them further due to the left-wing nature of them. Many counties, especially in appalachia and the mountain west, have basically gone dark to the federal government, as militia groups, rogue local officials, and radicalized police departments effectively make federal or in some cases even state law impossible to enforce. Indeed, things are so dire that the only places the federal government can properly run things are in the various major city metros. Smaller cities suffer constant terror attacks by right-wing groups and are forced to cooperate with left-wing groups like antifa basically out of necessity as they would otherwise lose control of the situation completely. Worse, rumors about republican trifectas floating the idea of launching an official insurgency have gotten more and more frequent as the "purest" extremists have slowly climbed the ranks of the party, and leaked intelligence reports suggest that its only a matter of time before one does.
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2020, 11:44:54 PM »

Almost certain, and might even happen by 2022 if Biden actually wins.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2020, 12:22:22 AM »

Leftists won't form a third party. They will instead unseat centrists and corporatists. If she Harris takes over the presidency from Biden mid-term, that means she's served 2 terms by 2028, correct? So that wouldn't fit in this scenario, and she'd have to beat AOC in a primary in 2024, which I find unlikely.

Republicans rejecting the elwctions doesn't mean the elections are not legit. Federal and state law is easy to enforce if you have the huevos to actually do it. Trump and Lafayette Park is a good example of how eaay ir is to DO, though (a) in Trump's case it wasn't actually enforcing laws properly at all, and (b) doing so may result in a succession attempt or an autonomous zone needing to be re-conquered.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2020, 12:25:52 AM »

Leftists won't form a third party. They will instead unseat centrists and corporatists. If she Harris takes over the presidency from Biden mid-term, that means she's served 2 terms by 2028, correct? So that wouldn't fit in this scenario, and she'd have to beat AOC in a primary in 2024, which I find unlikely.

Republicans rejecting the elwctions doesn't mean the elections are not legit. Federal and state law is easy to enforce if you have the huevos to actually do it. Trump and Lafayette Park is a good example of how eaay ir is to DO, though (a) in Trump's case it wasn't actually enforcing laws properly at all, and (b) doing so may result in a succession attempt or an autonomous zone needing to be re-conquered.

AOC isn't running for President in 2024. The first year she can realistically be the Democratic nominee is probably 2028 or 2032 (and she probably won't run in 2028 either.)
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2020, 12:29:42 AM »

Leftists won't form a third party. They will instead unseat centrists and corporatists. If she Harris takes over the presidency from Biden mid-term, that means she's served 2 terms by 2028, correct? So that wouldn't fit in this scenario, and she'd have to beat AOC in a primary in 2024, which I find unlikely.

Republicans rejecting the elwctions doesn't mean the elections are not legit. Federal and state law is easy to enforce if you have the huevos to actually do it. Trump and Lafayette Park is a good example of how eaay ir is to DO, though (a) in Trump's case it wasn't actually enforcing laws properly at all, and (b) doing so may result in a succession attempt or an autonomous zone needing to be re-conquered.

AOC isn't running for President in 2024. The first year she can realistically be the Democratic nominee is probably 2028 or 2032 (and she probably won't run in 2028 either.)
If you think she isn't going to carry Bernie's torch run in a primary against Biden's corrupt centrist female VP in 2024, you don't know her well enough. She wants change, amd if nobody else will provide it, she will.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2020, 12:42:50 AM »

Leftists won't form a third party. They will instead unseat centrists and corporatists. If she Harris takes over the presidency from Biden mid-term, that means she's served 2 terms by 2028, correct? So that wouldn't fit in this scenario, and she'd have to beat AOC in a primary in 2024, which I find unlikely.

Republicans rejecting the elwctions doesn't mean the elections are not legit. Federal and state law is easy to enforce if you have the huevos to actually do it. Trump and Lafayette Park is a good example of how eaay ir is to DO, though (a) in Trump's case it wasn't actually enforcing laws properly at all, and (b) doing so may result in a succession attempt or an autonomous zone needing to be re-conquered.

AOC isn't running for President in 2024. The first year she can realistically be the Democratic nominee is probably 2028 or 2032 (and she probably won't run in 2028 either.)
If you think she isn't going to carry Bernie's torch run in a primary against Biden's corrupt centrist female VP in 2024, you don't know her well enough. She wants change, amd if nobody else will provide it, she will.

AOC also isn't stupid. She's not going to run a race that she knows she'll lose. The reason she ran against Crowley was she thought she had a good chance to win. She knows full well she wouldn't have a chance against Harris unless Harris completely fails as VP (of course if Biden picks someone else, we could be talking about a totally different scenario.)
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2020, 01:39:15 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2020, 01:59:22 AM »

Leftists won't form a third party. They will instead unseat centrists and corporatists. If she Harris takes over the presidency from Biden mid-term, that means she's served 2 terms by 2028, correct? So that wouldn't fit in this scenario, and she'd have to beat AOC in a primary in 2024, which I find unlikely.

Republicans rejecting the elwctions doesn't mean the elections are not legit. Federal and state law is easy to enforce if you have the huevos to actually do it. Trump and Lafayette Park is a good example of how eaay ir is to DO, though (a) in Trump's case it wasn't actually enforcing laws properly at all, and (b) doing so may result in a succession attempt or an autonomous zone needing to be re-conquered.

AOC isn't running for President in 2024. The first year she can realistically be the Democratic nominee is probably 2028 or 2032 (and she probably won't run in 2028 either.)
If you think she isn't going to carry Bernie's torch run in a primary against Biden's corrupt centrist female VP in 2024, you don't know her well enough.

If you think AOC can beat VP Harris in 2024, you don't know Dem primary voters well enough.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2020, 10:49:49 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2020, 04:11:55 PM »

Short of a major historical event like the civil war or depression equilibrium between the two parties always finds a way to happen.

Republicans will have a shot for the foreseeable future in both houses of Congress. The Senate due to it giving disproportionate representation to small states where Republicans do well and the Republicans will continue to be able to gerrymander the house due to the Dems issues at the state level. I could see the Dems building a strong presidential coalition in the near future where they always win presidential elections if there isn't a recession or scandal by an incumbent Dem.
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