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« on: June 29, 2020, 05:42:10 PM »



Biden +9 (52-43) last week.

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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2020, 05:44:53 PM »

This pollster is random af.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2020, 05:45:30 PM »

So they went from 95% decided to 86% decided. Totally normal.

Not to mention their GCB was stagnant for WEEKS, if not months, at like D+7-9. And now that fell to D+3?

It feels like all of the trash pollsters are coming out of the woodwork to set a narrative in the past few days.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2020, 05:47:02 PM »

So they went from 95% decided to 86% decided. Totally normal.

Not to mention their GCB was stagnant for WEEKS, if not months, at like D+7-9. And now that fell to D+3?

It feels like all of the trash pollsters are coming out of the woodwork to set a narrative in the past few days.

Yep.  All the high-quality polls are saying the same thing.  These partisan pollsters are all over the map. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2020, 05:47:18 PM »

Can we also talk about how this is Biden +10 among adults, but Biden +4 with "likely" voters?
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2020, 05:48:33 PM »

Can we also talk about how this is Biden +10 among adults, but Biden +4 with "likely" voters?

Eh that's a larger than normal gap, but it's consistent. You get less liberal as the sample goes from adult --> registered voter --> likely voter
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2020, 05:51:18 PM »

No need to unskew. Just put it into the average.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2020, 06:18:39 PM »

Multiple polls now showing Biden losing support over the last week. Worrying.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2020, 07:02:27 PM »

Biden collapse.  Time to call in Hillary. /s
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2020, 07:10:01 PM »

Multiple polls now showing Biden losing support over the last week. Worrying.

And yet he's at his highest support in Georgia at the same time.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2020, 07:40:07 PM »

Obviously I never thought that Biden's sky high leads would hold all the way, but a 7 point drop in support is concerning. I think some of the decline is just noise, but we will have to see.
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2020, 07:42:10 PM »

   
Firehouse/Optimus: Biden +4.3%
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2020, 07:45:56 PM »

Oh god, is Biden collapsing? I’m kinda worried. Or is this just noise?
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2020, 07:56:34 PM »

Oh god, is Biden collapsing? I’m kinda worried. Or is this just noise?

The MoEs on these Firehouse polls have bee pretty high in the past, though I notice this one's for the full sample of adults (not the subsample of likely voters) is only 4.5%.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2020, 08:26:27 PM »

Good rule to go by: Has there been any news since their last poll that would suggest the race should be getting closer? If not, then they're probably wrong. Common sense, people.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2020, 09:01:45 PM »

Biden obviously isn't collapsing, but also people shouldn't have believed the silly +14 polls put out in the last few weeks.  Biden is probably up 6-8 points ATM.
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2020, 09:25:41 PM »

Good rule to go by: Has there been any news since their last poll that would suggest the race should be getting closer? If not, then they're probably wrong. Common sense, people.

This 100%
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2020, 09:27:15 PM »

Yeah the DC Statehood talk and Supermajority talk was presumptive
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2020, 09:39:04 PM »

Looks like the race has slid back from 10-14% to 4-8%. It was bound to happen. Hopefully it doesn’t get any closer than this.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2020, 09:42:47 PM »

Looks like Biden has to get out of his basement and start talking in front of rallies, or his polls gonna further decline
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2020, 09:46:44 PM »

Biden’s lead in the 538 average has dropped from 9.6% to 9.3% over the past few days.  This seems like a reasonable reaction to polls like this.
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2020, 10:10:17 PM »

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE TRASH POLLSTERS ARE SAYING THE RACE IS TIGHTENING TRUMP IS GOING TO KILL US ALL FREAK OUT FREAK OUT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2020, 10:11:58 PM »

Looks like the race has slid back from 10-14% to 4-8%. It was bound to happen. Hopefully it doesn’t get any closer than this.

Perhaps but this pollster just seems all over the place so I wouldn’t read too much into it in particular.
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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2020, 10:15:34 PM »

And Trump still can't get above 41. Sad.
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2020, 05:08:08 AM »

People are really freaking out about this? Firehouse has been all over the place this cycle. Total rollercoaster.

And no - a movement from +10 to +4 in a LV screener is not normal.
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