The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[BG-NY]

The people in here crying about fascism deserve real fascism.

There has been a disturbing rise on brazen fascists like yourself on Atlas. I wonder what's bringing you creeps here.

Why is fascism necessarily a bad thing? Just because there have been awful fascists like Hitler and Mussolini, doesn’t mean that all fascists are bad. Socialism has been rehabilitated as an ideology, despite Stalin and Mao.

If one is fine to include within the overton window, so is the other.

Blue avatars are heading in a very dark direction

Thanks for reporting me, coward.

[BG-NY]

Why is fascism necessarily a bad thing? Just because there have been awful fascists like Hitler and Mussolini, doesn’t mean that all fascists are bad. Socialism has been rehabilitated as an ideology, despite Stalin and Mao.

If one is fine to include within the overton window, so is the other.

Blue avatars are heading in a very dark direction

Thanks for reporting me, coward.

Here are your options here:
1. Talk about how fascism is cool and good
2. Whine about the fascist mods
You don't get to do both.

Also, didn't you ragequit the forum like a month ago? How's that going?

I’m fine with the mods. Just not with snitches, little buddy.

[BG-NY]

Thanks for reporting me, coward.

Here are your options here:
1. Talk about how fascism is cool and good
2. Whine about the fascist mods
You don't get to do both.

Also, didn't you ragequit the forum like a month ago? How's that going?

I’m fine with the mods. Just not with snitches, little buddy.

Not answering the question. You deleted all your posts and logged off. Why are you back?

I don’t owe you an explanation, young man. Consider a lot of my posting A/B testing.

I may decide to delete my posts again. I might not. I’ll keep you on your toes.

[BG-NY]

All the old guard of American Politics and Diplomacy are dying out.

It's actually kind of sad to see.

Albright and McCain have been vindicated when it comes to NATO, Eastern Europe, and Russia.

[BG-NY]

Yes. Don't have an issue with abortions at any point in the term. Country is overpopulated.

Is the issue with the abortion up until delivery point, or the overpopulation one? I guess both are questionable.

[BG-NY]

Great Replacement conspiracy theorist = HP

Yes, I'm worried about "white people" being replaced with...other "white people" from Ukraine? Makes sense, broski.

[BG-NY]

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=545622.0

Very disappointing to see people more concerned with leaker identities than the contents of leaks.

[BG-NY]

Everyone is running to Trump’s left

[BG-NY]

I heard someone say that Trump is now basically a national version of Mastriano and I can't say I disagree.

[BG-NY]

I said after the 2022 midterms that Democrats still being shell-shocked from 2016 explained a lot of the overperformance.

I don't think people who lived through that will ever let that happen again. Most Democrats I talk to still don't believe any polls showing Biden ahead, in fact I hear them terrified about his re-election prospects the same way they sounded 3 years ago. I really, really don't think complacency is going to be an issue for Democrats as long as Trump is the face of the party.

[BG-NY]

https://twitter.com/billscher/status/1669310736420438017

(1) Crossing estimates are revised up 1, 2, and 3 months later (similar to GDP).
(2) Summer crossings are always down due to extreme heat.
(3) Totals are artificially deflated by CBP-One:

Left out of the illegal crossings data is another dataset that would reveal how much of that apparent decline is counted elsewhere as part of a legally challenged admittance scheme the Biden DHS vastly expanded in mid-January to issue “humanitarian exceptions” for legalized escorted crossings of foreign nationals who were going to jump the border.

This scheme’s objective, as I have previously revealed, is to entice those intending border crossers, while they are still south of it, to petition Biden’s DHS for “humanitarian parole” on a telephone/computer app called CBP-One before they cross. Those approved then get flown into America from unknown foreign airports or escorted overland, with permission, at unrevealed land ports of entry, sight unseen, given work authorization – and counted somewhere that is not fully public. Texas and 19 other states have sued over the administration’s mass use of humanitarian parole.

Indeed, from the DHS's website:

Through CBP One, an average of 1,070 noncitizens presented in a safe and orderly manner at a port of entry each day to be processed during their scheduled appointment time. CBP has, as of June 1, expanded the number of appointments available to 1,250 each day.
The top 3 nationalities with CBP One appointments were: Haiti, Mexico, and Venezuela.
An additional 23,000 vetted and sponsored Cuban, Haitian, Nicaraguan, and Venezuelan nationals arrived in the United States through the parole processes we announced in January 2023.

On the bright side, at least we've finally gotten you to admit immigration is a cancer to this country.

[BG-NY]

It makes as much sense as thinking that Trump was less neocon than Obama or Biden.

[BG-NY]

Not letting enemy combatants come in, spread their legs and produce fresh reinforcements is anti-American? What?

Jesus. BG - NY has always been a racist xenophobe, but that is outright storm front level. Disgraceful

I'm anti-censorship so I won't report this libel, but there is nothing racist about me. I don't like white immigrants either, and have long been a proponent of a northern border wall. Zero means zero.

[BG-NY]

Not letting enemy combatants come in, spread their legs and produce fresh reinforcements is anti-American? What?

Jesus. BG - NY has always been a racist xenophobe, but that is outright storm front level. Disgraceful

I'm anti-censorship so I won't report this libel, but there is nothing racist about me. I don't like white immigrants either, and have long been a proponent of a northern border wall. Zero means zero.

"I'm not a racist, I'm just a xenophobe."

Like that's any better?

Uh, yes?

[BG-NY]

No, like Sanchez already said hating someone for an immutable trait is far worse. This should be basic.

how, exactly, is "being different than you" not an immutable trait? people don't exactly get to decide their culture and nationality at birth. They're born with it just as much as they are race

No they're not lol. Some people are born literally caught between two cultures. And later in life a person can shift from Islamist culture to Western culture or to a hybrid culture for example. Not true for race, a Black man will always be a Black man and will face systemic biases in America due to his race, though of course hopefully fewer with every passing generation.

Culture has a real impact on the safety of sexual minorities as well! Hamtramck Michigan and their all Muslim city council recently passed an ordinance prohibiting pride flags on city property. They claimed the majority of residents were offended by them. We have enough religious fundamentalist here. Why diversify the bigot pool any further?

And btw, while you probably think I'm some far right nutcase on borders, I'm not at all. My position would fit well in the British Labour party. I think Obama's first term policies were reasonable and I wish we'd return to them. But sometime around 2014 everything relating to immigration broke.

Yet you spend all of your time defending far-right bigots and creeps on the forum, all the while defending mass deportations that resulted in unnecessary pain and suffering for many Americans who were born in this country. Why? What was the point of any of this?

I'm tired of this stuff man. Just join the other side, we don't need people like you.

What American citizens have been deported?

Horus is a good man who fights the lunacy of the religious right and the delusions of the open borders left.

[BG-NY]

No, like Sanchez already said hating someone for an immutable trait is far worse. This should be basic.

how, exactly, is "being different than you" not an immutable trait? people don't exactly get to decide their culture and nationality at birth. They're born with it just as much as they are race

No they're not lol. Some people are born literally caught between two cultures. And later in life a person can shift from Islamist culture to Western culture or to a hybrid culture for example. Not true for race, a Black man will always be a Black man and will face systemic biases in America due to his race, though of course hopefully fewer with every passing generation.

Culture has a real impact on the safety of sexual minorities as well! Hamtramck Michigan and their all Muslim city council recently passed an ordinance prohibiting pride flags on city property. They claimed the majority of residents were offended by them. We have enough religious fundamentalist here. Why diversify the bigot pool any further?

And btw, while you probably think I'm some far right nutcase on borders, I'm not at all. My position would fit well in the British Labour party. I think Obama's first term policies were reasonable and I wish we'd return to them. But sometime around 2014 everything relating to immigration broke.

Yet you spend all of your time defending far-right bigots and creeps on the forum, all the while defending mass deportations that resulted in unnecessary pain and suffering for many Americans who were born in this country. Why? What was the point of any of this?

I'm tired of this stuff man. Just join the other side, we don't need people like you.

What American citizens have been deported?

Horus is a good man who fights the lunacy of the religious right and the delusions of the open borders left.

When the parents of American citizens are deported, usually said citizens are also deported. I understand they aren't American citizens to you but in the eyes of the law, they are citizens, and in the eyes of most Americans, they are Americans as, if they were not, it would chip away at the premise that allows a solid 30% of the country to be classified as Americans without hesitation.

Various dullards on the forum can't grasp this because their stance on immigration isn't driven by any understanding of immigration but petty malice that erupts as they see a taco truck or a kebab stand or whatever.

Are you speaking about anchor babies? They can stay in the US with a guardian. It's a great evil that people can try and plant a flag here, very much an invasion, but under the current law, they are citizens. That's why I disagree with Vivek - as evil as the birthright cancer is, it needs to be overturned by constitutional amendment.

In terms of immigration...I live in Manhattan. Beautiful city, aside from all the illegals here. I visited Tokyo earlier this year. Incredible city in an incredible country with closed borders. Why can't we be the same?

[BG-NY]

No, like Sanchez already said hating someone for an immutable trait is far worse. This should be basic.

how, exactly, is "being different than you" not an immutable trait? people don't exactly get to decide their culture and nationality at birth. They're born with it just as much as they are race

No they're not lol. Some people are born literally caught between two cultures. And later in life a person can shift from Islamist culture to Western culture or to a hybrid culture for example. Not true for race, a Black man will always be a Black man and will face systemic biases in America due to his race, though of course hopefully fewer with every passing generation.

Culture has a real impact on the safety of sexual minorities as well! Hamtramck Michigan and their all Muslim city council recently passed an ordinance prohibiting pride flags on city property. They claimed the majority of residents were offended by them. We have enough religious fundamentalist here. Why diversify the bigot pool any further?

And btw, while you probably think I'm some far right nutcase on borders, I'm not at all. My position would fit well in the British Labour party. I think Obama's first term policies were reasonable and I wish we'd return to them. But sometime around 2014 everything relating to immigration broke.

Yet you spend all of your time defending far-right bigots and creeps on the forum, all the while defending mass deportations that resulted in unnecessary pain and suffering for many Americans who were born in this country. Why? What was the point of any of this?

I'm tired of this stuff man. Just join the other side, we don't need people like you.

What American citizens have been deported?

Horus is a good man who fights the lunacy of the religious right and the delusions of the open borders left.

When the parents of American citizens are deported, usually said citizens are also deported. I understand they aren't American citizens to you but in the eyes of the law, they are citizens, and in the eyes of most Americans, they are Americans as, if they were not, it would chip away at the premise that allows a solid 30% of the country to be classified as Americans without hesitation.

Various dullards on the forum can't grasp this because their stance on immigration isn't driven by any understanding of immigration but petty malice that erupts as they see a taco truck or a kebab stand or whatever.

Are you speaking about anchor babies? They can stay in the US with a guardian. It's a great evil that people can try and plant a flag here, very much an invasion, but under the current law, they are citizens. That's why I disagree with Vivek - as evil as the birthright cancer is, it needs to be overturned by constitutional amendment.

In terms of immigration...I live in Manhattan. Beautiful city, aside from all the illegals here. I visited Tokyo earlier this year. Incredible city in an incredible country with closed borders. Why can't we be the same?

If you like Tokyo so much, why don't you just emigrate there? I'd like the United States of America to remain the United States of America and am not interested in it morphing to suit the fantasies of some addled online bigot.

Because I'm American, and my ancestors have been here for 5 or more generations in each line. I wouldn't abandon my homeland.

[BG-NY]

Because I'm American, and my ancestors have been here for 5 or more generations in each line. I wouldn't abandon my homeland.

Exactly how many generations does it take for someone stop being a “spawn of an invader” and start being a real American in your eyes?

So you haven’t reformed?

My eyes don't matter, but the eyes of the law do. If you are born on US soil, you are no longer an invader. This evil can't change, unfortunately, short of a constitutional amendment. So children of anchors born to illegals are not spawn of invaders.

[BG-NY]

My eyes don't matter, but the eyes of the law do. If you are born on US soil, you are no longer an invader. This evil can't change, unfortunately, short of a constitutional amendment. So children of anchors born to illegals are not spawn of invaders.

Your eyes don’t matter, but I’m asking you anyway.

If you had free reign to rewrite the Constitution, how would someone become eligible for citizenship?

I’m not a lawyer, so I won’t pretend to be. Children of citizens, native born or naturalized, should be citizens.