The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[VBM]

Well the old thread is getting pretty long anyway and Ses refuses to change the name for an absurd post because Sven is his friend.
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=302397.0

Old thread there.

This thread is Massive HT (Horrible Thread). It’s just a place for people to go when they want to belittle someone’s post that they don’t agree with. I’d recommend deleting it asap

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

The fact that he had the confidence to say "house n-er" on live TV and laugh about it sums up everything wrong about him.

But he said it as part of a joke and wasn’t saying it in a racist manner. Honestly, the “White people can never say the n word, even with a soft r, no matter the context or else they’re canceled!!!” crowd is all HP. The n word is only unacceptable when the person clearly says it to be racist and belittle black people. Saying it as part of a joke is fine. Most black people don’t even care if a white guy says “n***a” as part of a joke

You are literally the embodiment of the right-wing NPC meme

okay

[VBM]

The fact that he had the confidence to say "house n-er" on live TV and laugh about it sums up everything wrong about him.

But he said it as part of a joke and wasn’t saying it in a racist manner. Honestly, the “White people can never say the n word, even with a soft r, no matter the context or else they’re canceled!!!” crowd is all HP. The n word is only unacceptable when the person clearly says it to be racist and belittle black people. Saying it as part of a joke is fine. Most black people don’t even care if a white guy says “n***a” as part of a joke

You are literally the embodiment of the right-wing NPC meme

okay

Instead of being a condescending asshole acting like my post is worthy of mockery without any explanation, can you actually explain to me why saying the soft r n word makes you an automatic racist HP POS, no matter the context? Bill Maher was clearly not trying to be racist when he said the n word

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

The fact that he had the confidence to say "house n-er" on live TV and laugh about it sums up everything wrong about him.

But he said it as part of a joke and wasn’t saying it in a racist manner. Honestly, the “White people can never say the n word, even with a soft r, no matter the context or else they’re canceled!!!” crowd is all HP. The n word is only unacceptable when the person clearly says it to be racist and belittle black people. Saying it as part of a joke is fine. Most black people don’t even care if a white guy says “n***a” as part of a joke

You are literally the embodiment of the right-wing NPC meme

okay

Instead of being a condescending asshole acting like my post is worthy of mockery without any explanation, can you actually explain to me why saying the soft r n word makes you an automatic racist HP POS, no matter the context? Bill Maher was clearly not trying to be racist when he said the n word

Listen, I'm not sure why you think you have me all figured out based on ... one thread, but to answer your question briefly: the world is not divided into good people and klansmen. Death of the Author is not really applicable to language or symbols that exist in the real world, and if you can't see why a wealthy white man using that particular word in that particular context was not in the best taste, I can't help you.

[VBM]

The fact that he had the confidence to say "house n-er" on live TV and laugh about it sums up everything wrong about him.

But he said it as part of a joke and wasn’t saying it in a racist manner. Honestly, the “White people can never say the n word, even with a soft r, no matter the context or else they’re canceled!!!” crowd is all HP. The n word is only unacceptable when the person clearly says it to be racist and belittle black people. Saying it as part of a joke is fine. Most black people don’t even care if a white guy says “n***a” as part of a joke

You are literally the embodiment of the right-wing NPC meme

okay

Instead of being a condescending asshole acting like my post is worthy of mockery without any explanation, can you actually explain to me why saying the soft r n word makes you an automatic racist HP POS, no matter the context? Bill Maher was clearly not trying to be racist when he said the n word

Listen, I'm not sure why you think you have me all figured out based on ... one thread, but to answer your question briefly: the world is not divided into good people and klansmen. Death of the Author is not really applicable to language or symbols that exist in the real world, and if you can't see why a wealthy white man using that particular word in that particular context was not in the best taste, I can't help you.

What makes words offensive is context. Telling someone “f**k you” is offensive, while saying “f**k yeah!” is not offensive. Why is the n word the only word for which context is irrelevant. Saying the n word as part of a non-racist joke or saying it because it’s a lyric in a song you’re singing is obviously not racist, but saying something like “you n***ears need to get out of this town” obviously is horrible and racist. Why get mad at an adult for saying the n word to another adult in a non-racist manner? Context is what makes a word offensive, and the n word is no exception. Barely any black people actually get offended at a white person for saying the n-word in a light-hearted, non-racist manner. It’s mostly just subconsciously racist, politically correct liberals who are incredibly patronizing to black people and think that they know what’s best for black people.

[Badger]

LOL

House Slave tales.  

Trump is far more "communist dictator" than Winnie the Poo or Kim Jung Ooon.

This is why 999% of females don't like Asian dudes.  They're quite cuckish.

Sir, this is an arbys Atlas not r/China

Alben Barkley made one or two very silly wrongheaded posts bragging about house party was around the time this thread was renamed. However, as this post demonstrates he is not even remotely close to the bottom 10%, and I'd argue not even in the bottom 50%, of all posters.

This Thread really needs renamed.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

What makes words offensive is context.

Yes, and the social and historical context of that word makes it racist, just as the social and historical context of the swastika makes it a fascist symbol, regardless of the intent of the person using it in a particular case.

But this is not the place to be having this conversation. Feel free to create a thread on IP if you'd like to get the forum's consensus on your claims here.

[OSR stands with Israel]

LOL "evil". There were zero homeless people in Soviet Russia, while people were dying on the streets in Reagan's America, Thatcher's UK, and eventually Yeltsin's Russia.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

LOL "evil". There were zero homeless people in Soviet Russia, while people were dying on the streets in Reagan's America, Thatcher's UK, and eventually Yeltsin's Russia.

America has almost objectively been as evil an influence on the modern world as any communist country. Endless coups in Latin America, slaughtering innocent middle easterners for oil, treating her own poor citizens like dogs and whores to be pimped out for medical debt interest and low wages.

I'm not saying the post doesn't belong here, but you look like a guy trying to call someone else out with a Romney signature. C'mon man.

[PSOL]

LOL "evil". There were zero homeless people in Soviet Russia, while people were dying on the streets in Reagan's America, Thatcher's UK, and eventually Yeltsin's Russia.

Before Gorbachev‘s latter term, this was true

[WD]

Why do some users sound like they browse either r/socialism or r/communism?

Because some probably do.

[PSOL]

Why do some users sound like they browse either r/socialism or r/communism?

Because some probably do.

This should not be surprising. Furthermore, is this your supposed rebuttal to this factual statement?

[PSOL]

Why do some users sound like they browse either r/socialism or r/communism?

Because some probably do.

This should not be surprising. Furthermore, is this your supposed rebuttal to this factual statement?

well, if it was factual, you would consider it revisionism.

Nope, the Soviet Union actually throughout its history viewed the housing of its citizenry in what was mainly flats to fit one of their selling points to the people. It was under privatization and lack of public investment that homelessness skyrocketed in the 90s under the force of shock therapy.

Out of all the things the Soviet Union did, denying something that most western academics found to be true is kinda galaxy brain, no?

[WD]

Why do some users sound like they browse either r/socialism or r/communism?

Because some probably do.

This should not be surprising. Furthermore, is this your supposed rebuttal to this factual statement?

well, if it was factual, you would consider it revisionism.

Nope, the Soviet Union actually throughout its history viewed the housing of its citizenry in what was mainly flats to fit one of their selling points to the people. It was under privatization and lack of public investment that homelessness skyrocketed in the 90s under the force of shock therapy.

Out of all the things the Soviet Union did, denying something that most western academics found to be true is kinda galaxy brain, no?

Sure, technically there were zero homeless people in the USSR, but that’s because the government mandated that everyone live in cramped, derelict, apartments shared with 2-7 other families, not because it was some prosperous utopia.

[PSOL]

Why do some users sound like they browse either r/socialism or r/communism?

Because some probably do.

This should not be surprising. Furthermore, is this your supposed rebuttal to this factual statement?

well, if it was factual, you would consider it revisionism.

Nope, the Soviet Union actually throughout its history viewed the housing of its citizenry in what was mainly flats to fit one of their selling points to the people. It was under privatization and lack of public investment that homelessness skyrocketed in the 90s under the force of shock therapy.

Out of all the things the Soviet Union did, denying something that most western academics found to be true is kinda galaxy brain, no?

Sure, technically there were zero homeless people in the USSR, but that’s because the government mandated that everyone live in cramped, derelict, apartments shared with 2-7 other families, not because it was some prosperous utopia.

Not always in apartments and they weren’t that cramped tbh. Plus, it’s not like that in Europe and the more bigger US cities that there is now a housing shortage where even the expensive apartments are cramped, unregulated messes where you have to split the rent.

The whole “commieblock” meme really only exists as part of the shock of the reintroduction of full capitalism and liberalizations in the 90s.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Why do some users sound like they browse either r/socialism or r/communism?

Because some probably do.

This should not be surprising. Furthermore, is this your supposed rebuttal to this factual statement?

well, if it was factual, you would consider it revisionism.

Nope, the Soviet Union actually throughout its history viewed the housing of its citizenry in what was mainly flats to fit one of their selling points to the people. It was under privatization and lack of public investment that homelessness skyrocketed in the 90s under the force of shock therapy.

Out of all the things the Soviet Union did, denying something that most western academics found to be true is kinda galaxy brain, no?

Sure, technically there were zero homeless people in the USSR, but that’s because the government mandated that everyone live in cramped, derelict, apartments shared with 2-7 other families, not because it was some prosperous utopia.

Even if that was true, it's better than the New York metro area with tens of thousands of homeless wandering the streets beneath vacant luxury apartments used as investment holdings for wealthy foreigners and real estate mega companies, while formerly working class neighborhoods have seen rents quadruple.

[MATTROSE94]

You're simply demonstrating a correlation-causality fallacy.  Educational attainment (among Whites) may be correlated with higher IQ and Biden voting, but once you condition one on the other the correlation falls away.  To see how lazy this line of argument is, you could just as easily argue IQ is correlated with Trump-voting since Whites on average score about 15 pts higher than Blacks on IQ tests. 

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

You're simply demonstrating a correlation-causality fallacy.  Educational attainment (among Whites) may be correlated with higher IQ and Biden voting, but once you condition one on the other the correlation falls away.  To see how lazy this line of argument is, you could just as easily argue IQ is correlated with Trump-voting since Whites on average score about 15 pts higher than Blacks on IQ tests. 

He never said anything remotely implying there is a genetic component. I think most posters would agree that black America is underserved, particularly the education system

[MATTROSE94]

You're simply demonstrating a correlation-causality fallacy.  Educational attainment (among Whites) may be correlated with higher IQ and Biden voting, but once you condition one on the other the correlation falls away.  To see how lazy this line of argument is, you could just as easily argue IQ is correlated with Trump-voting since Whites on average score about 15 pts higher than Blacks on IQ tests. 

He never said anything remotely implying there is a genetic component. I think most posters would agree that black America is underserved, particularly the education system

I guess I missed the point of what Del Tachi was trying to say in this post.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

Totally disgraceful, it’s time for the US to retaliate by sanctioning the EU as well . We should do all in our power to create more Brexits in Europe and make sure the anti American pro Chinese EU gets dismantled completely.

The way to do that is exempt nations from sanctions if they defy EU rules .

It’s clear the world was a better place when the US was the only major Western power and we need to do all in our power to return to that

OSR offering a bad take on international relations? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell ya!!

The EU is a pro Chinese organization now and they need to suffer consequences for it . The EU is also anti American and we should oppose any anti American organizations.


The goal of US Foreign policy now should be to advance our power as it’s clear the world was better off when the US was the only Western power

ayy lmao

[Donerail]

while the Iraq War was controversial, we did establish democracy there

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

while the Iraq War was controversial, we did establish democracy there

That was classic lmao

[AGA]

Literally nobody who has accused the Lincoln Project of being “grifters” has ever been able to explain how or why. Are they misrepresenting who they are? Are they scamming people out of their money? Are they taking people’s money and using it for purposes other than what they clearly state they will do with it? Are they claiming that a donation to them will result in an outcome that doesn’t happen? Are they unethically compelling anybody to give them any money at all? No? They’re not doing ANY of that? Then they’re not grifters. Here they are clearly targeting Trump directly as they always had when they ran ads in DC. They also continue to support Democrats in Georgia, so even the fears that they would suddenly switch back to being GOP hacks after the election have not manfiested.

Krystal and Saagar tore them apart multiple times. Start there.  You're basically supporting neocons to "own" Trump.  Congrats.

I am like 10% neocon myself, and certainly sympathize with them more even when I disagree with them than I ever have with Trump or lunatics like the YouTubers you mentioned, because at least they are generally smart people with coherent and ideologically sound reasons for acting as they do.

Congratulations, you have been brainwashed by stupid morons on the internet yet for some reason you think that gives you any sort of moral or intellectual high ground whatsoever. You are talking to someone who has an advanced degree in political science; I don’t need YouTubers to tell me what and how to think about politics, and sure as hell don’t need their cult followers to do it.

No one is “grifting” me. I am well aware of exactly who the Lincoln Project people are, what they believe, who they have supported in the past. I know precisely where we agree and disagree and why. And I respect them for being intelligent, reasonable people who walk the walk, and for being the enemy of my enemy and thus my friend. Even if it was true that our only common ground was “owning” Trump (which again it is NOT), that would still be easily more than enough for me to gladly accept them as welcome allies as Trump is the worst president of all-time and the most dangerous authoritarian figure in American political history.

Sure as hell makes more sense for me to align with people opposed to that than it does for people to support politicians whose goals are completely opposed to their self-interest just to “own the libs” because someone made you mad and feel stupid (usually because you ARE) on Twitter, which at the end of the day seems to be what it comes down to for most Trump supporters. THAT sure as hell doesn’t come down to logic, reason, or facts, because it is literally impossible for people who understand and value those things to support Trump.

Yes, I am calling you a f—king idiot by the way. No, I don’t care if you are upset or if you report me for insulting you. Anyone who endorses a man who is about as nasty, vicious, insulting, confrontational, disagreeable and hostile as they come at all times needs to be prepared to reap what they sow. Sorry if that triggers you, snowflake. What you gonna do, “cancel” me because I hurt your pwecious feels?

I have zero patience for fascists and all their enablers. And even less patience for when they dare to challenge or insult me. Get f—ked! That goes for EVERYONE standing by this Nazi SOB who is STILL actively trying to destroy everything great about this democracy which people like my grandfather fought and died for. You sick bastards are siding with an ideology far more closely resembling that which they fought against. F—K YOU!!

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Based Alben.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

What a weird little man he is.