The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The Dem Party seems to have trouble settling for half a loaf, and then the inflation genie got out of the bottle, and the size of the loaf is shrinking further. What may be left may not even be enough to make a whole sandwich as opposed to an open faced one. And the doomed to fail holding of BFI hostage consumed about 4 months of time. Biden finally summoned up the will to tell the squad he was going to tank it all, and they would get nothing, if there was not an immediate hostage release. But by then the afternoon shadows were getting very long, and there was a chill in the air. More than anything else, this is a Biden fail, and in particular,  a Klain fail, who has not been serving either the country or his boss well imo.

[darklordoftech]

literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

[S019]

literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

They literally do though? These reforms were implemented across the world by both left wing and right wing governments, because they helped revitalize the economy which was quite stagnant in the 1970s. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.

[John Dule]

literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

They literally do though?

That's a statement, not a question.

[S019]

literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

They literally do though?

That's a statement, not a question.

The question mark is added for emphasis, it describes my incredulity at someone actually saying that mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms.

[darklordoftech]

literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

They literally do though? These reforms were implemented across the world by both left wing and right wing governments, because they helped revitalize the economy which was quite stagnant in the 1970s. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.

The economy goes in cycles that governments don’t control, “neoliberal” or not.

[S019]

literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

They literally do though? These reforms were implemented across the world by both left wing and right wing governments, because they helped revitalize the economy which was quite stagnant in the 1970s. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.

The economy goes in cycles that governments don’t control, “neoliberal” or not.

The point is not that, the point is that these reforms worked and surely accelerated the pace of economic growth. Sure, the economy will recover eventually, but generally faster recovery is preferred, given long-term economic stagnation is not a good thing, so doing nothing and just letting it recover over a long period of time is not really an option. I agree that the government doesn't control the economy, this does not mean the government cannot take actions to stimulate the economy when it is doing poorly. These reforms were designed to do just that, stimulate the economy and they worked. Sure, neoliberalism is not the economic theory that most mainstream economists adhere to now, if that was the argument, then you would be right, but that is not the argument. Rather, the argument is simply whether or not these reforms worked and whether or not they were accepted, and both of those things are true.

[John Dule]

literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

They literally do though?

That's a statement, not a question.

The question mark is added for emphasis, it describes my incredulity at someone actually saying that mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms.

He did not say that mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms. He said that all mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms.

[Badger]

literally every mainstream person accepts neoliberal reforms.

They literally do though?

That's a statement, not a question.

The question mark is added for emphasis, it describes my incredulity at someone actually saying that mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms.

He did not say that mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms. He said that all mainstream people do not accept neoliberal reforms.

Mainstream people don't know or use the word neoliberal.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Oh I think using neoliberal wrong has gone mainstream.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

I’ve never even heard of this alleged crime wave and googling seems to only give me some rightwing outlets about isolated incidents in California.

For context the thread was about Nancy Pelosi backing a bill to address the alleged outbreak of random looting s that apparently only Fox News viewers and your weird uncle on Facebook knows about. So the Chicago murder rate is related to this how?

But yes, not being up on the rates of specific violent crime in a city over 300 miles from where I actually live is a huge own.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

It's only murder. Just one of a delightful variety of violent crimes. Never mind why homicide rates are considered the single most reliable and consistent piece of crime data.

And sure, Chicago doesn't get much attention in the national press these days. My apologies for picking some random backwater to make a point, but I'm sure that someone as informed as you realizes that there is not a good national dataset covering murders. Fox News. Cranky uncles. Facebook. What do I get for pronouncing the magic words?

Bullsh**t, you saw an Illinois AV and, apparently not owning a map, thought ‘Chicago’ is a great own on everyone in 400 mile radius.

Aside from which, How are violent crime rates relevant to the ‘wave’ of shoplifters the bill in question is supposed to stop?

[Mr. Reactionary]

It's only murder. Just one of a delightful variety of violent crimes. Never mind why homicide rates are considered the single most reliable and consistent piece of crime data.

And sure, Chicago doesn't get much attention in the national press these days. My apologies for picking some random backwater to make a point, but I'm sure that someone as informed as you realizes that there is not a good national dataset covering murders. Fox News. Cranky uncles. Facebook. What do I get for pronouncing the magic words?

Bullsh**t, you saw an Illinois AV and, apparently not owning a map, thought ‘Chicago’ is a great own on everyone in 400 mile radius.

Aside from which, How are violent crime rates relevant to the ‘wave’ of shoplifters the bill in question is supposed to stop?

Robbery is considered a violent crime because it involves violence or the threat thereof. 20 people simultaneously engaging in organized theft very well could be considered an implicit threat of violence and thus robbery.

[Horus]

Isn't Chicago the exception and not the norm when it comes to violent crime?

[S019]

Masks are a symbol.  A powerful one.  When the populace sees a mask mandate, they know the government is "doing something" and taking their health seriously.  The mandates work exactly as intended.

So masks are apparently now merely a symbol, nope they don't protect you or anything. Oh, forgive me for preaching such radical nonsense, instead they merely make you think you're protected. Oh, if that sounds like a bunch of drivel, it's because the post above me is indeed nonsensical drivel, thus it belongs in this thread.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

*sits in Minneapolis and laughs at people who deny the crime surge is real.*

Seriously come visit her for a week and say that it isn't, or that Chicago is just an exception.

[Green Line]

Masks are a symbol.  A powerful one.  When the populace sees a mask mandate, they know the government is "doing something" and taking their health seriously.  The mandates work exactly as intended.

So masks are apparently now merely a symbol, nope they don't protect you or anything. Oh, forgive me for preaching such radical nonsense, instead they merely make you think you're protected. Oh, if that sounds like a bunch of drivel, it's because the post above me is indeed nonsensical drivel, thus it belongs in this thread.

Lol

[Badger]

It's only murder. Just one of a delightful variety of violent crimes. Never mind why homicide rates are considered the single most reliable and consistent piece of crime data.

And sure, Chicago doesn't get much attention in the national press these days. My apologies for picking some random backwater to make a point, but I'm sure that someone as informed as you realizes that there is not a good national dataset covering murders. Fox News. Cranky uncles. Facebook. What do I get for pronouncing the magic words?

Bullsh**t, you saw an Illinois AV and, apparently not owning a map, thought ‘Chicago’ is a great own on everyone in 400 mile radius.

Aside from which, How are violent crime rates relevant to the ‘wave’ of shoplifters the bill in question is supposed to stop?

Robbery is considered a violent crime because it involves violence or the threat thereof. 20 people simultaneously engaging in organized theft very well could be considered an implicit threat of violence and thus robbery.

No,  One needs more than that barring some truly extraordinary, and possibly unconstitutional law constitutional law. You might get a riot conviction along with whatever theft offenses there are. Plus maybe possession of criminal tools if they used hammers et cetera.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

As I've said elsewhere, Trump is a "Philosemite," which is someone who believes in every single anti-Semitic trope but thinks that they're all actually positive traits and therefore thinks that the Jews are awesome. Trump is the kind of person who thinks that there is a secret Jewish cabal that controls business and politics...and wishes that cabal was on his side! And thinks its unfair that it isn't! Shouldn't this shady cabal love him for supporting Israel?

Remember, this is the guy who addresses a Republican Jewish organization and starts off by saying that this is the only room he's ever been in with better dealmakers than himself.

Trump is someone who grew up hearing that Jews were greedy, manipulative loansharks who always find a technicality to break every promise they ever make while amassing disproportionate wealth and power, the old anti-Semitic stereotype of his childhood era, and went "Wow, those Jews sound incredible! I want to be just like them."

Tip for finding a Philosemite: someone of Trump's generation (in their 70s or 80s) who refer to the Jews as "That talented people" or "That incredible race." Works every time.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

As I've said elsewhere, Trump is a "Philosemite," which is someone who believes in every single anti-Semitic trope but thinks that they're all actually positive traits and therefore thinks that the Jews are awesome. Trump is the kind of person who thinks that there is a secret Jewish cabal that controls business and politics...and wishes that cabal was on his side! And thinks its unfair that it isn't! Shouldn't this shady cabal love him for supporting Israel?

Remember, this is the guy who addresses a Republican Jewish organization and starts off by saying that this is the only room he's ever been in with better dealmakers than himself.

Trump is someone who grew up hearing that Jews were greedy, manipulative loansharks who always find a technicality to break every promise they ever make while amassing disproportionate wealth and power, the old anti-Semitic stereotype of his childhood era, and went "Wow, those Jews sound incredible! I want to be just like them."

Tip for finding a Philosemite: someone of Trump's generation (in their 70s or 80s) who refer to the Jews as "That talented people" or "That incredible race." Works every time.

What's absurd about that post? It's pretty much dead on accurate.

[S019]

Last thing I'll say before bowing out is that it's very heartening to see the forum community united in favor of rationality over psychosis. I think just about everyone on here opposed to further COVID restrictions has this viewpoint not only due to selfishness but also due to a preponderance of concern for those affected by the economic cost of further restrictions and, also, the psychic burden of those restrictions. Above all, I think everyone here is disgusted by the massive damage done to children in the name of slowing the spread. This seems to mostly transcend ideology. It seems that we've found some kind of consensus that can unite socialists with liberals, reactionaries and libertarians!

[darklordoftech]

If Harris has any moral compass, she will have Biden arrested

[lfromnj]

There's no material difference between this idiot and cryin' Kyle sh**tsinhouse. A fair application of the law would see him found not guilty with lots of help from the judge.

[Aurelius]

Context: Omicron symptoms are milder than previous variants of covid

Mild symptoms? Pancreatic cancer first manifests itself with mild symptoms.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Users and Rs think that Minorities abd females and Non Evangelical white men  even without VR or Voting Rights are gonna watch the Rs takeover lol it's VBM election not same day voting and the Rs want to keep the Status quo where the rich get richer and poor get poor it will be the same under Bush W and Trump and Boehner yrs people didn't pay their student Loans under no Prez

That's why Ds will win this Nov

If Rs would of saved the poor Trump would still be in office