opinion of CHAZ (the Seattle "occupied" zone)

[Antonio the Sixth]

The Roman Empire should auth-left. The whole state was built on a massive welfare system, comprehensive public utilities, and an organized process for the immigration and assimilation of foreigners.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The Roman Empire should auth-left. The whole state was built on a massive welfare system, comprehensive public utilities, and an organized process for the immigration and assimilation of foreigners.

Also, it's a stretch to call Venezuela, the Soviet Union, Imperial Japan, and Nazi Germany "successful". It's also a stretch to classify the European Union as Auth-Right: if anything they're the very definition of Grill-Pilled Centrist.

Yeah, almost everything in this chart is wrong. But most of it is wrong in obvious and boring ways, whereas the Roman Empire's placement is wrong in an interesting way.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The Roman Empire should auth-left. The whole state was built on a massive welfare system, comprehensive public utilities, and an organized process for the immigration and assimilation of foreigners.

Also, it's a stretch to call Venezuela, the Soviet Union, Imperial Japan, and Nazi Germany "successful". It's also a stretch to classify the European Union as Auth-Right: if anything they're the very definition of Grill-Pilled Centrist.

Yeah, almost everything in this chart is wrong. But most of it is wrong in obvious and boring ways, whereas the Roman Empire's placement is wrong in an interesting way.

Missed these posts. The Roman Empire was extremely hierarchical and land ownership was concentrated among the elites. Public utilities are not an inherently "leftist" policy; Adam Smith supported public ownership of roads and infrastructure. Also, in the long term, none of those nations will be "successful," so the fact that some of them no longer exist or were destroyed by external factors is a moot point. I mean, there are obviously no actually successful leftist states, but I had to include crap like Venezuela in order for the joke to work.

Well of course, the history of the world since the agricultural revolution has been one of hierarchies and wealth concentration (and also, by and large, genocide and militarism) so if you want to go by that logic all "successful" polities have been auth-right. What made the Roman Empire stand out, though, and part of what made it successful, were policies that would be called "left-wing" by modern definitions.