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Question: how do you feel about CHAZ? how do you think it will end?
#1
I approve and think they're doing a good job
 
#2
I approve, but I don't like how it's being run
 
#3
I approve, and I'm not sure how I feel about how it's being run yet
 
#4
I'm not sure how I feel about it yet
 
#5
I understand why they did it, but I do not approve.  We ain't there yet.
 
#6
I disapprove
 
#7
I strongly disapprove
 
#8
it will end when the people inside grow bored and go home
 
#9
it will end when the local police take it back
 
#10
it will end when local citizens take it back
 
#11
it will end when the state calls in the National Guard
 
#12
it will end when the feds call in the military or other federal agency
 
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« on: June 12, 2020, 04:50:51 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2020, 05:08:16 PM »

Approve 100%. The people must take back their homes away from a system only in place to oppress them, and CHAZ, while it will not grow , is an important first step in taking the streets to the people and away from the police. The mutual aide networks and strategies now learned since this and Occupy in 2011 will be instrumental in the future.

I think CHAZ will get abandoned after things die down, but the spirit of it will live on even as the structure gets demolished.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2020, 05:13:15 PM »

Mostly eyerolling at the LARPing anarchists pretending this is some sort of big statement. It'll blow over when people get tired of this idiocy. This "autonomous zone" is such an overblown joke.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2020, 06:08:29 PM »

Obviously, insurrection goes against God, but I can't say as a student of political instability that I don't find a contemporary US case study slightly interesting.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2020, 06:30:23 PM »

I get people (both like this and of a more libertarian bent) who try to break away from the federal government. But this particular one has had a MeToo scandal within the first two days of its existence and has some rapper dude walking around with an AK to "maintain the peace". I feel bad for the people living in apartments there, having to go through checkpoints and whatnot, who are afraid to speak up.

I'll credit this with being the only ballsy thing the American Left has done in a long time. But anyway, I'm not a fan.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 06:49:32 PM »

Hilarious
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2020, 06:52:40 PM »

I mean, my understanding is that it's essentially just functioning as an unsupervised festival in the middle of Seattle most of the time? Which is fine.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2020, 06:57:17 PM »

I mean, my understanding is that it's essentially just functioning as an unsupervised festival in the middle of Seattle most of the time? Which is fine.
By all accounts it acts as a spectacle into what the future could be, what with the medical makeshift clinics there and the constant partying.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2020, 07:33:36 PM »

Sounds like a fun block party.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2020, 07:37:00 PM »

I like the art that's being displayed there and the relative lack of violence so far. No comment on whatever political statements are trying to be made.


Seems like this year's alternative to the Capitol Hill Block Party that normally happens in mid-July.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2020, 07:55:46 PM »

Strongly disapprove and will end when people get bored
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2020, 08:24:30 PM »

Approve 100%. The people must take back their homes away from a system only in place to oppress them, and CHAZ, while it will not grow , is an important first step in taking the streets to the people and away from the police. The mutual aide networks and strategies now learned since this and Occupy in 2011 will be instrumental in the future.

I think CHAZ will get abandoned after things die down, but the spirit of it will live on even as the structure gets demolished.

Regardless of what you think of CHAZ, I can guarantee it will have absolutely no impact on the future of America whatsoever.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2020, 08:34:01 PM »

I looked at their demands and I support 1, possibly 2. Don't approve.
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2020, 10:03:19 AM »

A vision of dystopia. Run far, far away from people who want this future.
but they've got a make shift medical clinic man!  The future is a party, ya know, once the water and power are out, what else ya gonna do?  Party and go to the make shift medical tent.  It's going to be awesome!
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2020, 02:49:18 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2020, 03:03:12 PM »

You are missing in the left quadrant for the past 2,000 years; Most Hunter-Gatherer populations, Diggers, Levellers, Iroquois confederation, CNT-AIT Free Spanish Territory, Anarchist Ukraine, ELZN communes, and Rojava. You also need to shift Venezuela more to the centre of its quadrant and Nazi Germany to the middle right of its quadrant.

Comparing one small block to the major powers of any ideology, must less representing all of Anarchist or Libertarian Socialist ideology is kinda weak tbh.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2020, 03:12:06 PM »

You are missing in the left quadrant for the past 2,000 years; Most Hunter-Gatherer populations, Diggers, Levellers, Iroquois confederation, CNT-AIT Free Spanish Territory, Anarchist Ukraine, ELZN communes, and Rojava. You also need to shift Venezuela more to the centre of its quadrant and Nazi Germany to the middle right of its quadrant.

Comparing one small block to the major powers of any ideology, must less representing all of Anarchist or Libertarian Socialist ideology is kinda weak tbh.

Oh, sorry. Here's an updated version:

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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2020, 05:41:45 PM »

The Roman Empire should auth-left. The whole state was built on a massive welfare system, comprehensive public utilities, and an organized process for the immigration and assimilation of foreigners.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2020, 08:32:26 PM »

In the words made famous by Douglas Adams, "Mostly Harmless". 
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2020, 01:34:00 AM »

A vision of dystopia. Run far, far away from people who want this future.

     This. I strongly disapprove of the vision, but I am fine with the people instituting it, so that the concept that this is at all an acceptable way to organize a society is conclusively debunked.
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2020, 03:57:27 AM »

It's a block party lol
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2020, 09:31:32 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2020, 10:02:31 AM »
« Edited: June 17, 2020, 10:41:14 AM by Stranger in a strange land »

The Roman Empire should auth-left. The whole state was built on a massive welfare system, comprehensive public utilities, and an organized process for the immigration and assimilation of foreigners.

Also, it's a stretch to call Venezuela, the Soviet Union, Imperial Japan, and Nazi Germany "successful". It's also a stretch to classify the European Union as Lib-Right: if anything they're the very definition of Grill-Pilled Centrist.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2020, 01:46:09 PM »

The Roman Empire should auth-left. The whole state was built on a massive welfare system, comprehensive public utilities, and an organized process for the immigration and assimilation of foreigners.

Also, it's a stretch to call Venezuela, the Soviet Union, Imperial Japan, and Nazi Germany "successful". It's also a stretch to classify the European Union as Auth-Right: if anything they're the very definition of Grill-Pilled Centrist.

Yeah, almost everything in this chart is wrong. But most of it is wrong in obvious and boring ways, whereas the Roman Empire's placement is wrong in an interesting way.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2020, 03:11:47 PM »

The Roman Empire should auth-left. The whole state was built on a massive welfare system, comprehensive public utilities, and an organized process for the immigration and assimilation of foreigners.

Also, it's a stretch to call Venezuela, the Soviet Union, Imperial Japan, and Nazi Germany "successful". It's also a stretch to classify the European Union as Auth-Right: if anything they're the very definition of Grill-Pilled Centrist.

The Nazi Germany was pretty far from a "successfull" state. People still repeat the nonsense about "Hitler making Germany's economy stronger before he went to war", but they forget how unstable and dysfunctional the economic setup under the Nazis was.
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