Brave New Atlas Minus One

[7,052,770]

the fact that he was bullied out cause  he opposed the rioters is disgraceful.


He is by far one of the least racist people on here and the fact the left kept calling him that is a disgrace

This might be the most ridiculous post in Atlas history.

First of all, Fuzzy Bear was a bully, not a victim of bullying, and one of the biggest, most mean-spirited (something he personally acknowledged as intentional on multiple occasions) bullies we've ever had last a long time here. Just an absolutely vile, venomous, thoroughly rotten person who brought on every bit of treatment he received upon himself. I sure hope that he was hamming it up to play a character and he doesn't actually mistreat people like that in real life.

And it was just so pathetic how he'd go cry to the mods about every little comment (which were rarely if ever any worse than he threw first at people), and then after at least 1 mod did his bidding most every time, he would complain about how unfair the mods were to him (!)

And by what criteria are you saying he's "one of the least racist people on here" ? Most people here aren't racist. What did he do that puts him high on the list? And you throw in "by far," as if there's some kind of gap between him and other non-racist people? How so?

[Hindsight was 2020]

the fact that he was bullied out cause  he opposed the rioters is disgraceful.


He is by far one of the least racist people on here and the fact the left kept calling him that is a disgrace

I’d like to point out the comment me and Proudmoderate made that Fuzzy said he was leaving over was in my thread about Trump saying George Floyd is smiling down from heaven over the jobs report which Fuzzy defended. So he wasn’t “bullied off” for opposing the riots but instead left because he 1) can’t take a joke which is what my comment was and 2) had a psychological need to defend Trump no matter how ridiculous 

[OSR stands with Israel]

the fact that he was bullied out cause  he opposed the rioters is disgraceful.


He is by far one of the least racist people on here and the fact the left kept calling him that is a disgrace

I’d like to point out the comment me and Proudmoderate made that Fuzzy said he was leaving over was in my thread about Trump saying George Floyd is smiling down from heaven over the jobs report which Fuzzy defended. So he wasn’t “bullied off” for opposing the riots but instead left because he 1) can’t take a joke which is what my comment was and 2) had a psychological need to defend Trump no matter how ridiculous  

It wasn’t just the one thread , it was multiple threads over time that leftists like Proudmoderate on there would gang up on him and call him bigoted time and time again when he is clearly clearly not a bigot .


About AG he should have been banned 100%

[Green Line]

Respect your elders.  We will miss you, Fuzzy Bear.  Like a Grandpa for so many here that we never had.

[Hindsight was 2020]

the fact that he was bullied out cause  he opposed the rioters is disgraceful.


He is by far one of the least racist people on here and the fact the left kept calling him that is a disgrace

I’d like to point out the comment me and Proudmoderate made that Fuzzy said he was leaving over was in my thread about Trump saying George Floyd is smiling down from heaven over the jobs report which Fuzzy defended. So he wasn’t “bullied off” for opposing the riots but instead left because he 1) can’t take a joke which is what my comment was and 2) had a psychological need to defend Trump no matter how ridiculous  

It wasn’t just the one thread , it was multiple threads over time that leftists like Proudmoderate on there would gang up on him and call him bigoted time and time again when he is clearly clearly not a bigot .


About AG he should have been banned 100%

There are definitely worse blue avatars on that but Fuzzy has made a couple of eyebrow raising statements (Grand Mufti) that to say he definitely isn’t bigoted might be pushing it. Granted I’m not saying he is because again he doesn’t post anything outright bad like others here but I wouldn’t begrudge Proudmoderate or other leftist who do think he is

[SevenEleven]

the fact that he was bullied out cause  he opposed the rioters is disgraceful.


He is by far one of the least racist people on here and the fact the left kept calling him that is a disgrace

I’d like to point out the comment me and Proudmoderate made that Fuzzy said he was leaving over was in my thread about Trump saying George Floyd is smiling down from heaven over the jobs report which Fuzzy defended. So he wasn’t “bullied off” for opposing the riots but instead left because he 1) can’t take a joke which is what my comment was and 2) had a psychological need to defend Trump no matter how ridiculous  

It wasn’t just the one thread , it was multiple threads over time that leftists like Proudmoderate on there would gang up on him and call him bigoted time and time again when he is clearly clearly not a bigot .


About AG he should have been banned 100%

There are definitely worse blue avatars on that but Fuzzy has made a couple of eyebrow raising statements (Grand Mufti) that to say he definitely isn’t bigoted might be pushing it. Granted I’m not saying he is because again he doesn’t post anything outright bad like others here but I wouldn’t begrudge Proudmoderate or other leftist who do think he is

I've seen moderately bigoted statements from Fuzzy but what bothered me the most was that he never tried to or wanted to understand the perspective of minorities in any way.

Example: Fuzzy claims "Latinos care the most about immigration". When presented with proof and polling that shows that Latinos care far more about other issues, and that Whites and Republicans care more about immigration than Latinos, he stops responding but goes on to repeat his talking points across the forum. If it's not explicit bigotry, it's certainly a pernacious form of ignorance that doesn't make him much better, if at all.

[7,052,770]

by far

one of the least racist people on here

he is clearly clearly not a bigot

Again, how in the world are you supporting these strong statements?

If you want to argue he's not a bigot and leave it at that, fine. I myself never focused on putting him in that box, preferring to focus on the fact that he's an outrageous asshole who constantly mistreats people, and that his shtick was to post a bunch of bad faith super-long-winded rambles that never even bothered to address any points or counterarguments, often making the same arguments from threads a few weeks before. He would often soften his stances within threads, but the next time the topic came up, he was back to posting the same long-winded ramble, to the point where I wondered if he honestly didn't remember the previous thread at all. Or he may have just been having fun trolling the libs.

But what in the world is leading you to say it's clear, obvious, "by far one of the least bigoted posters here," etc.? Fuzzy's own comments and mistreatment of other posters led to people's negative opinions about him.

For contrast, Extreme Republican has a lot of the same religious beliefs^, and his political beliefs are much further to Fuzzy's right, but he always treats people with dignity and respect, and he is very well-liked, even among people who don't like Fuzzy at all. If Fuzzy had been polite and respectful like Extreme Republican, he would have been well-respected here too.

^ - I mean, I'm sure someone will split hairs and say that Fuzzy is Pentecostal and Extreme Republican is Southern Baptist, and there are plenty of theological differences there, but I'm just saying they're both Evangelical Protestants who believe in Biblical inerrancy and salvation by faith alone.

[OSR stands with Israel]

the fact that he was bullied out cause  he opposed the rioters is disgraceful.


He is by far one of the least racist people on here and the fact the left kept calling him that is a disgrace

I’d like to point out the comment me and Proudmoderate made that Fuzzy said he was leaving over was in my thread about Trump saying George Floyd is smiling down from heaven over the jobs report which Fuzzy defended. So he wasn’t “bullied off” for opposing the riots but instead left because he 1) can’t take a joke which is what my comment was and 2) had a psychological need to defend Trump no matter how ridiculous  

It wasn’t just the one thread , it was multiple threads over time that leftists like Proudmoderate on there would gang up on him and call him bigoted time and time again when he is clearly clearly not a bigot .


About AG he should have been banned 100%

There are definitely worse blue avatars on that but Fuzzy has made a couple of eyebrow raising statements (Grand Mufti) that to say he definitely isn’t bigoted might be pushing it. Granted I’m not saying he is because again he doesn’t post anything outright bad like others here but I wouldn’t begrudge Proudmoderate or other leftist who do think he is

The grand mufti thing was not due to bigotry , but the context of the thread was anti Semitic figures rising in the Dem party and when posters started defending those people as not anti Semitic that’s when Fuzzy made the Grand Mufti thing .


It wasn’t meant to be directed at TSA and Fuzzy has said that on multiple occasions

[OSR stands with Israel]

by far

one of the least racist people on here

he is clearly clearly not a bigot

Again, how in the world are you supporting these strong statements?

If you want to argue he's not a bigot and leave it at that, fine. I myself never focused on putting him in that box, preferring to focus on the fact that he's an outrageous asshole who constantly mistreats people, and that his shtick was to post a bunch of bad faith super-long-winded rambles that never even bothered to address any points or counterarguments, often making the same arguments from threads a few weeks before. He would often soften his stances within threads, but the next time the topic came up, he was back to posting the same long-winded ramble, to the point where I wondered if he honestly didn't remember the previous thread at all. Or he may have just been having fun trolling the libs.

But what in the world is leading you to say it's clear, obvious, "by far one of the least bigoted posters here," etc.? Fuzzy's own comments and mistreatment of other posters led to people's negative opinions about him.

For contrast, Extreme Republican has a lot of the same religious beliefs^, and his political beliefs are much further to Fuzzy's right, but he always treats people with dignity and respect, and he is very well-liked, even among people who don't like Fuzzy at all. If Fuzzy had been polite and respectful like Extreme Republican, he would have been well-respected here too.

^ - I mean, I'm sure someone will split hairs and say that Fuzzy is Pentecostal and Extreme Republican is Southern Baptist, and there are plenty of theological differences there, but I'm just saying they're both Evangelical Protestants who believe in Biblical inerrancy and salvation by faith alone.

Fuzzy was very very liberal on the issue of criminal justice reform and even on immigration made it clear he would accept a pathaway to citizenship if  the borders are strongly enforced . He is also not a hack as he voted Democratic as late as 2018 .


What he got mad at was people calling pro life views as sexist , being for strong border enforcement as racist and that’s what he mainly was mad at . He respected people who had opposing views and beck voted for those types of polticians sometimes more than politicians he agrees with more as well so he obviously is more tolerant of opposing views.



Fuzzy views are not much different at all from most swing voters and other than PQG , RINO Tom ,  Lechasser he was arguably one of the most moderate republicans on here and he is definitely more moderate than me on the vast majority of issues as well including immigration and criminal justice reform  .


The reactions to fuzzy leaving show that he was right and much of the left on here wants an echo chamber. My advice to him would be just to leave the US Gen discussion board and just post on election what ifs , off topic and individual poltics and not the dumpster fire US gen discussion has become .

[7,052,770]

Fuzzy was very very liberal on the issue of criminal justice reform and even on immigration made it clear he would accept a pathaway to citizenship if  the borders are strongly enforced .

OK, but that doesn't even start to address my question of how you're justifying "by far," "one of the least bigoted posters here," etc. You've got to back up such superlatives if you're going to use them.

He is also not a hack as he voted Democratic as late as 2018 .

Yes we all know. That fact alone is really strong evidence that I'm correct in my assessment that it wasn't Fuzzy's beliefs that made us not like him, it was his cruel and outrageous mistreatment of other posters.

What he got mad at was people calling pro life views as sexist , being for strong border enforcement as racist and that’s what he mainly was mad at .

OK. Now talk about the accusations he flung out at other people.

He respected people who had opposing views

Um, no, it was all namecalling, accusations of ulterior motives, conspiracy theories like "Democrats only support refugees because they want them to vote against Trump!!!!1" even when we all said we'd still have compassion no matter what.

and beck voted for those types of polticians sometimes more than politicians he agrees with more as well so he obviously is more tolerant of opposing views.

Not "obvious" or even vaguely suggested. Fuzzy always assumes the worst in other people, the darkest motivations possible.

Fuzzy views are not much different at all from most swing voters and other than PQG , RINO Tom ,  Lechasser he was arguably one of the most moderate republicans on here and he is definitely more moderate than me on the vast majority of issues as well .

Again, you're making my argument for me that it wasn't Fuzzy's political views that got him his reputation, it was his actions.

The reactions to fuzzy leaving show that he was right and much of the left on here wants an echo chamber.

No we don't. We just want people on all sides of the issues to be respectful, and for people not to post the same word salads over and over as if they don't remember the last debate, or don't care. How many times did I have to remind him that there is no video of Michael Brown beating up a woman and that he must be confused, misremembering, etc.? How many times did I have to remind him that transgender individuals existed in Polynesian cultures already before they met Europeans so you just can't accurately say that transgender identity was 100% made up by 20th century white liberals? How many times did he use the same arguments about someone wrongfully convicted of rape back in the 1970s (as if that has happened in the 2020s anyway)? How many times did he bring up Juanita Broaddrick in threads that had nothing to do with her or accusations? (Answer: a lot in a very short window, as seen here.)

We don't want an echo chamber. We love plenty of blue avatars. But we don't love the way Fuzzy posted, and that's on him.

My advice to him would be just to leave the US Gen discussion board and just post on election what ifs , off topic and individual poltics and not the dumpster fire US gen discussion has become .

OK. You never addressed by central question about how you justify "by far," "one of the least bigoted posters here," etc.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The fact he was called a bigot by so many posters here and was mocked over and over is why he had the reactions he did .


On immigration he said both republicans and democrats have the immigration policies they do for electoral reasons, and he called out both sides on the issue .

[The Dowager Mod]

No longer posting and no longer lurking about are two different things btw.

[T'Chenka]

Fuzzy needs to come back. He's the yin to my yang. Atlas doesn't feel the same without him.

[Beet]

He was a conservative poster but he had his place here. I'm not celebrating this.

[Green Line]

He was a conservative poster but he had his place here. I'm not celebrating this.

Celebrate his life here, not his departure.

[The Arizonan]

Is it just me or did Fuzzy Bear give off a very strong, privileged, WASPy vibe?

[President Johnson]

Hope you find some time to relax and then come back, Fuzzy. We haven't always agreed on everything, but that's the substance of political discussion. I've appreciated most of your comments, even if I couldn't subscribe to everything.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Tbh one of the failures of Talk Elections is that it is not representative enough of the US population.

1. Why is this necessarily a failure?

2. You realize that plenty of people who are not American post on this forum, yes?

[Former President tack50]

Tbh one of the failures of Talk Elections is that it is not representative enough of the US population.

1. Why is this necessarily a failure?

2. You realize that plenty of people who are not American post on this forum, yes?

1: It is my personal belief that every political discussion outlet that is open to everyone should be as representative as possible of the general population. This includes Atlas, but also more websites like for example Reddit's /r/politics and what not.

This is obviously not possible due to several self-selection biases but still it is an ideal to stive for. Check threads from circa 2004-2006 and you can see a forum that was more representative of the US population at the time I believe.

2: Yes I am obviously one of them so I am aware of their exsistance

I am deliberately ignoring foreign posters because the forum is not catered to us. We are welcome to join I suppose but the focus of the site should not be us.

In all honesty I would also want the foreign posters to be representative of their respective countries; but outside of Canada and the UK we are talking about sample sizes of 1-3 people so that is obviously impossible. You will always have statistical outliers and for non-English speaking countries the self-selection bias for foreign posters is way stronger due to the language barrier.

The only country other than the US where we have a sizable population of people enough that we could possibly ask for it is the UK.

And our British posters do indeed suffer from that same issue; where we have a ton of Labour supporters, one lone Lib Dem supporter and that is it I believe (I think there might be a C-UK poster he is nowhere near as prominent as the other British posters). Iirc also all our Scottish supporters are SNP supporters and presumably independence supporters, leaving out 50% of Scotland's population.

So in an ideal world we could certainly use an English Tory and an Scottish Conservative & Unionist as well. But again small sample size so really I am happy with any fellow foreign poster that joins the site

Interestingly our Canadian posters are mostly balanced, with a nice mixture of Tories, NDP and Liberal supporters. I wonder why that is though again, small sample size.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Forum population should ideally reflect knowledge, not views.

[ProudModerate2]

I hope you take this time to sincerely reflect on your warped perspective and severe lack of empathy, and come back to the forum closer to living by the Christian values you claim to support.

This times 1 Million.

[ProudModerate2]

I'm gonna miss him. There, I said it.

Fuzzy needs to come back. He's the yin to my yang. Atlas doesn't feel the same without him.

[Mr. Morden]

Looks like this only lasted a few weeks.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Looks like this only lasted a few weeks.

He recc'd one of my posts like a week ago so I had a feeling he was breaking.

[The Dowager Mod]

Looks like this only lasted a few weeks.

He recc'd one of my posts like a week ago so I had a feeling he was breaking.

21 days, between posts.