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« on: March 15, 2006, 05:17:01 PM »

I just read on the MSNBC ticker that former Senator Al D'Amato(R) is "poised" to endorse Eliot Spitzer for governor.
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2006, 05:22:34 PM »

I just read on the MSNBC ticker that former Senator Al D'Amato(R) is "poised" to endorse Eliot Spitzer for governor.

he should be flogged.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2006, 05:23:31 PM »

Is this designed to hurt Spitzer?
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2006, 07:28:15 PM »

Ed Koch-style turncoat?

Now you know how it feels.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2006, 07:40:53 PM »

Ed Koch-style turncoat?

Now you know how it feels.

The NYDem's aren't on the verge of have their casket closed though, the last thing the NYGOP needs now is the big names endorsing the other side.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2006, 07:50:36 PM »

Ed Koch-style turncoat?

Now you know how it feels.

The NYDem's aren't on the verge of have their casket closed though, the last thing the NYGOP needs now is the big names endorsing the other side.

It makes little difference at this point.  No matter who Al D'Amato endorsed, the NYDems will have a Hugo Chavez style monopoly on government by the end of the decade.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2006, 07:57:24 PM »

Ed Koch-style turncoat?

Now you know how it feels.

The NYDem's aren't on the verge of have their casket closed though, the last thing the NYGOP needs now is the big names endorsing the other side.

It makes little difference at this point.  No matter who Al D'Amato endorsed, the NYDems will have a Hugo Chavez style monopoly on government by the end of the decade.

Oh I agree. It's just a sign that, unfortunatly, the NYGOP is completely divided, torn and on the verge of destruction. Next to Pataki and Giuliani, D'Amato was one of the biggest names of the NYGOP even if he was voted out.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2006, 08:34:02 PM »

Man, it must suck to be a Republican in New York right about now.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2006, 12:05:35 PM »

The NYGOP has gut? That'd be news to me. Grin
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2006, 12:33:39 PM »

Is he on drugs?
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2006, 04:29:43 PM »

Eh, no matter how far the knife goes into a ded man (or party in this case Smiley), hes still dead. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2006, 05:11:03 PM »

Eh, no matter how far the knife goes into a ded man (or party in this case Smiley), hes still dead. Smiley

This is coming from someone who considers themselves a member of the Socialist Party....
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2006, 07:21:00 PM »

Eh, no matter how far the knife goes into a ded man (or party in this case Smiley), hes still dead. Smiley

This is coming from someone who considers themselves a member of the Socialist Party....
True, but we'll be getting a seat this year (under the Indpendent banner, unfortunately), so dont count us out yet. Wink
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2006, 09:26:24 PM »

Eh, no matter how far the knife goes into a ded man (or party in this case Smiley), hes still dead. Smiley

This is coming from someone who considers themselves a member of the Socialist Party....
True, but we'll be getting a seat this year (under the Indpendent banner, unfortunately), so dont count us out yet. Wink

Somehow I don't see a massive influx of Socialist voters in the future.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2006, 08:53:37 AM »

Eh, no matter how far the knife goes into a ded man (or party in this case Smiley), hes still dead. Smiley

This is coming from someone who considers themselves a member of the Socialist Party....
True, but we'll be getting a seat this year (under the Indpendent banner, unfortunately), so dont count us out yet. Wink

Somehow I don't see a massive influx of Socialist voters in the future.
Somehow I dont see a massive influx of NYGOP voters in the future either.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2006, 10:38:55 AM »

D'Amato's endorsement makes no difference.

Sptizer should stick to fighting crime.

His social views will lead New York only further down the road to moral bankruptcy.

Of course, I can't say Weld's social views are any better.

What a pathetic choice New Yorker's face.

Both leading candidates, Spitzer and Weld, are morally bankrupt.

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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2006, 11:06:27 AM »

I don't really think it matters anymore, Republicans in NY should probably just start over anyway.  The way they're going now, nothing they do can save them.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2006, 05:16:40 PM »

Eh, no matter how far the knife goes into a ded man (or party in this case Smiley), hes still dead. Smiley

This is coming from someone who considers themselves a member of the Socialist Party....
True, but we'll be getting a seat this year (under the Indpendent banner, unfortunately), so dont count us out yet. Wink

Somehow I don't see a massive influx of Socialist voters in the future.
Somehow I dont see a massive influx of NYGOP voters in the future either.

The difference is that I admitted that my party is dead.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2006, 07:01:46 PM »

D'Amato's endorsement makes no difference.

Sptizer should stick to fighting crime.

His social views will lead New York only further down the road to moral bankruptcy.

Of course, I can't say Weld's social views are any better.

What a pathetic choice New Yorker's face.

Both leading candidates, Spitzer and Weld, are morally bankrupt.



Ahh you mean equality
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2006, 09:34:01 PM »

D'Amato's endorsement makes no difference.

Sptizer should stick to fighting crime.

His social views will lead New York only further down the road to moral bankruptcy.

Of course, I can't say Weld's social views are any better.

What a pathetic choice New Yorker's face.

Both leading candidates, Spitzer and Weld, are morally bankrupt.



Ahh you mean equality

No, actually, I mean moral bankruptcy.  From what I understand, both favor same sex marriage.  Marriage is not an equality issue.  Marriage is not a right.  Marriage is a privilege, for one man and one woman.

Might I remind you, before you go and accuse me of being narrow minded, that even the 2004 Democratic ticket, John Kerry, the great liberal, and John Edwards, were, and still are, as far as I know, both opposed to same sex marriage.
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2006, 12:23:16 AM »

Do you really think they actually were opposed to gay marrriage and weren't just taking pragmatic electable positions?

Hell, Kerry voted against DOMA.
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2006, 12:40:27 AM »

D'Amato's endorsement makes no difference.

Sptizer should stick to fighting crime.

His social views will lead New York only further down the road to moral bankruptcy.

Of course, I can't say Weld's social views are any better.

What a pathetic choice New Yorker's face.

Both leading candidates, Spitzer and Weld, are morally bankrupt.



Ahh you mean equality

No, actually, I mean moral bankruptcy.  From what I understand, both favor same sex marriage.  Marriage is not an equality issue.  Marriage is not a right.  Marriage is a privilege, for one man and one woman.

Might I remind you, before you go and accuse me of being narrow minded, that even the 2004 Democratic ticket, John Kerry, the great liberal, and John Edwards, were, and still are, as far as I know, both opposed to same sex marriage.

Same sex marriage shouldn't be an issue in NY. If any candidate came out against it they would be slaughtered. The GOP needs to base their campaigns on economic issues or else they'll get nowhere in NY.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2006, 12:55:37 AM »

D'Amato's endorsement makes no difference.

Sptizer should stick to fighting crime.

His social views will lead New York only further down the road to moral bankruptcy.

Of course, I can't say Weld's social views are any better.

What a pathetic choice New Yorker's face.

Both leading candidates, Spitzer and Weld, are morally bankrupt.



Ahh you mean equality

No, actually, I mean moral bankruptcy.  From what I understand, both favor same sex marriage.  Marriage is not an equality issue.  Marriage is not a right.  Marriage is a privilege, for one man and one woman.

Might I remind you, before you go and accuse me of being narrow minded, that even the 2004 Democratic ticket, John Kerry, the great liberal, and John Edwards, were, and still are, as far as I know, both opposed to same sex marriage.

Same sex marriage shouldn't be an issue in NY. If any candidate came out against it they would be slaughtered. The GOP needs to base their campaigns on economic issues or else they'll get nowhere in NY.

The social Conservatives with help from the Conservative Party is doing a great job of making a horrid situation for the GOP in the state, and pushing the NYC suburbs  (especially Long Island and Westchester) which the GOP needs to win the state, even further into the Dem column with the way they are handling and treating any candidates to the left of Bush socially.  If they acted this way when Pataki was a candidate he wouldn't have had a chance.
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2006, 04:45:02 AM »

D'Amato's endorsement makes no difference.

Sptizer should stick to fighting crime.

His social views will lead New York only further down the road to moral bankruptcy.

Of course, I can't say Weld's social views are any better.

What a pathetic choice New Yorker's face.

Both leading candidates, Spitzer and Weld, are morally bankrupt.



Ahh you mean equality

No, actually, I mean moral bankruptcy.  From what I understand, both favor same sex marriage.  Marriage is not an equality issue.  Marriage is not a right.  Marriage is a privilege, for one man and one woman.

Only for another decade or two, civil rights will advance whether your church wants it to or not.

I knew when you were saying "moral bankruptcy" it was just a euphimism for seeing gays as filthy dogs. I'm glad you said what you really meant. You must have a lot friends in Rhode Island with that attitude.

BRTD is right, I knew that Kerry in favor of gay marriage, but he couldn't admit it or he would have done even worse in the South than he actually did. All of sudden Kerry is reasonable on an issue to you? Give me a break.
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2006, 05:33:31 AM »

No, actually, I mean moral bankruptcy.  From what I understand, both favor same sex marriage.  Marriage is not an equality issue.  Marriage is not a right.  Marriage is a privilege, for one man and one woman.

I said this once, I'll say it again.

Using "marriage is betwen a man and a woman" as an argument for not allowing same-sex marriage is like using "the tax rate is currently 16 percent" as an argument for not lowering the tax rate.

On the other hand, "in my opinion, marriage should be between a man and a woman" is a reasonable argument.  However, it's little more than a thesis.
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