NM Senate- Progressive challengers defeat five conservative Democrats

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I did not find any information that these Democrats formed a coalition with the Republicans, and in Wikipedia it is the Democrat who is listed as the Majority Leader. I am very sorry that the Democrats, looking at Trump, are doing the same (alienating moderate voters, moving far to the left). I hope that the Democratic Party will lose all these races in November and understand its mistakes. I hope that Joe Biden will return bipartisanship and moderate politics to the Democratic Party.

Also (don't belongs to this topic), I will miss you, Dan Lipinski, you were very, very good Congressman

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I did not find any information that these Democrats formed a coalition with the Republicans, and in Wikipedia it is the Democrat who is listed as the Majority Leader. I am very sorry that the Democrats, looking at Trump, are doing the same (alienating moderate voters, moving far to the left). I hope that the Democratic Party will lose all these races in November and understand its mistakes. I hope that Joe Biden will return bipartisanship and moderate politics to the Democratic Party.

Also (don't belongs to this topic), I will miss you, Dan Lipinski, you were very, very good Congressman

Conservative Democrats = “I hope progressive Democrats who won their primary fair and square loss their elections to Republicans!”

Also Conservative Democrats = “How DARE you critique our lord and savior Joe Biden?! Even one criticism of Joe Biden might as well be a vote for TRUMP!”

I don't think it's better to have a Republican in Congress than a progressive Democrat (but not like Tlaib or Omar - Generic Republican is better than them). I hope they lose because then maybe Democratic voters will finally understand that moderate voters cannot be ignored. The Democratic Party should be for everyone, but more and more it looks like it is only for the ultra-left

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I did not find any information that these Democrats formed a coalition with the Republicans, and in Wikipedia it is the Democrat who is listed as the Majority Leader. I am very sorry that the Democrats, looking at Trump, are doing the same (alienating moderate voters, moving far to the left). I hope that the Democratic Party will lose all these races in November and understand its mistakes. I hope that Joe Biden will return bipartisanship and moderate politics to the Democratic Party.

Also (don't belongs to this topic), I will miss you, Dan Lipinski, you were very, very good Congressman

Unlikely. 2 of these 5 districts gave Hillary about 63 and 60%. 3 other - possibly.

Yes, I know, but I hope that they lose, so Democratic Party will stop expelling the moderates from their ranks. We need more moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans. We need bipartisanship again and we need more bipartisanship.
 
To super-progressive Democrats, I don't say that Democratic Party doesn't need ultra-left members and/or voters. Centrist and conservative Democrats hear you, your voice and choice, but looks like ultra-left members think that moderate Democrats should be ignored

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I did not find any information that these Democrats formed a coalition with the Republicans, and in Wikipedia it is the Democrat who is listed as the Majority Leader. I am very sorry that the Democrats, looking at Trump, are doing the same (alienating moderate voters, moving far to the left). I hope that the Democratic Party will lose all these races in November and understand its mistakes. I hope that Joe Biden will return bipartisanship and moderate politics to the Democratic Party.

Also (don't belongs to this topic), I will miss you, Dan Lipinski, you were very, very good Congressman

Conservative Democrats = “I hope progressive Democrats who won their primary fair and square loss their elections to Republicans!”

Also Conservative Democrats = “How DARE you critique our lord and savior Joe Biden?! Even one criticism of Joe Biden might as well be a vote for TRUMP!”

I don't think it's better to have a Republican in Congress than a progressive Democrat (but not like Tlaib or Omar - Generic Republican is better than them). I hope they lose because then maybe Democratic voters will finally understand that moderate voters cannot be ignored. The Democratic Party should be for everyone, but more and more it looks like it is only for the ultra-left

What reality do you live in. It’s the exact opposite.

Congressional Progressive Caucus has 95 members in House of Representatives, while Blue Dog Coalition has 25 members. Great Representative Dan Lipinski lost his primary to left-wing Marie Newman, Henry Cuellar almost lost his primary to 27-year old, inexperienced Jessica Cisneroc. Many of state senators and representatives was in danger of losing or lost their seats because of their moderate voting record. How is it exact opposite?

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I did not find any information that these Democrats formed a coalition with the Republicans, and in Wikipedia it is the Democrat who is listed as the Majority Leader. I am very sorry that the Democrats, looking at Trump, are doing the same (alienating moderate voters, moving far to the left). I hope that the Democratic Party will lose all these races in November and understand its mistakes. I hope that Joe Biden will return bipartisanship and moderate politics to the Democratic Party.

Also (don't belongs to this topic), I will miss you, Dan Lipinski, you were very, very good Congressman

Conservative Democrats = “I hope progressive Democrats who won their primary fair and square loss their elections to Republicans!”

Also Conservative Democrats = “How DARE you critique our lord and savior Joe Biden?! Even one criticism of Joe Biden might as well be a vote for TRUMP!”

I don't think it's better to have a Republican in Congress than a progressive Democrat (but not like Tlaib or Omar - Generic Republican is better than them). I hope they lose because then maybe Democratic voters will finally understand that moderate voters cannot be ignored. The Democratic Party should be for everyone, but more and more it looks like it is only for the ultra-left

What reality do you live in. It’s the exact opposite.

You deny, that ultra-left has bigger and bigger influence in the party with every passing year? Not even funny.....

Larger influence? Sure, but even then it’s only comparing to the ultra-moderate / establishment domination of the Democratic Party in the 80’s and particularly the 90’s that progressive influence has begun to grow, and even then only in the latter half of the 2000’s.

For the better, I might add. But that’s a different conversation.

To suggest Moderate’s are being ‘silenced’ is ridiculous with Joe Biden as the nominee, Hillary Clinton and Obama (a former New Democrat aligned Democrat himself) as our former nominee’s and the New Democrats still being the largest caucus in the party.

Get a grip. Y’all are doing the silencing, not being silenced, lmao.

If you think Biden, Hillary and Obama are moderates, then of course there is room for moderates in the Democratic Party. But in reality, they are solid liberal politicians. Joe Biden is, probably, the most left-wing major party presidential nominee in US history. But if they are moderate, then who are JBE, Collin Peterson, Joe Manchin, Dan Lipinski? DINOs? Standard Republicans?

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I did not find any information that these Democrats formed a coalition with the Republicans, and in Wikipedia it is the Democrat who is listed as the Majority Leader. I am very sorry that the Democrats, looking at Trump, are doing the same (alienating moderate voters, moving far to the left). I hope that the Democratic Party will lose all these races in November and understand its mistakes. I hope that Joe Biden will return bipartisanship and moderate politics to the Democratic Party.

Also (don't belongs to this topic), I will miss you, Dan Lipinski, you were very, very good Congressman

Conservative Democrats = “I hope progressive Democrats who won their primary fair and square loss their elections to Republicans!”

Also Conservative Democrats = “How DARE you critique our lord and savior Joe Biden?! Even one criticism of Joe Biden might as well be a vote for TRUMP!”

I don't think it's better to have a Republican in Congress than a progressive Democrat (but not like Tlaib or Omar - Generic Republican is better than them). I hope they lose because then maybe Democratic voters will finally understand that moderate voters cannot be ignored. The Democratic Party should be for everyone, but more and more it looks like it is only for the ultra-left

What reality do you live in. It’s the exact opposite.

You deny, that ultra-left has bigger and bigger influence in the party with every passing year? Not even funny.....

Larger influence? Sure, but even then it’s only comparing to the ultra-moderate / establishment domination of the Democratic Party in the 80’s and particularly the 90’s that progressive influence has begun to grow, and even then only in the latter half of the 2000’s.

For the better, I might add. But that’s a different conversation.

To suggest Moderate’s are being ‘silenced’ is ridiculous with Joe Biden as the nominee, Hillary Clinton and Obama (a former New Democrat aligned Democrat himself) as our former nominee’s and the New Democrats still being the largest caucus in the party.

Get a grip. Y’all are doing the silencing, not being silenced, lmao.

Biden, Hillary and Obama - moderates? Even more funny. Moderates are people like Manchin or Sinema. Hillary, Obama and Biden are SOLID establishment liberals, and no less.

If you want to look at the ‘factions’ of the Democratic Party like this;

Progressive / Liberal / Moderate / Conservative, then I can somewhat understand your opinion if you’re on the Conservative side of that spectrum. I’m also very happy y’all are declining in influence vis a vis the progressive side, but I can understand. But you had decades of domination as one of the largest factions in our party, and now things are changing. Suck it up and ally yourselves with the moderates (still the largest faction in the party) or go become Republicans like the rest of your Dixiecrat brethren. Idk what to tell you. If we have our way, this will be a center-left to left wing party, and I don’t apologize for that.

Moderates almost never dominated in Democratic Party. FDR. He was moderate or progressive? He was progressive, but moderate by today's standards. LBJ? He was moderate or progressive? (Only as President) He was progressive, but moderate by today's standards. Even Barack Obama. He was progressive, but he is moderate by today's standards

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*Centrist/Conservative Democrat defeats Progressive in primary* "Don't be so unreasonable, you want the Republicans/Trump to win just to 'send a message'!? Just because your candidate didn't win doesn't mean you're being 'excluded.' We need to work together, so unite behind the Democrat."

*Progressive defeats Centrist/Conservative Democrat* "How dare Democrats move (relatively/even slightly) to the left! They're excluding me! I'm voting Republican to send them a message!"

But when was last time centrist/conservative Democrat defeats incumbent progressive Democrat in primary without major scandal against incumbent? Progressives much more often defeat moderates incumbents than the opposite

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I did not find any information that these Democrats formed a coalition with the Republicans, and in Wikipedia it is the Democrat who is listed as the Majority Leader. I am very sorry that the Democrats, looking at Trump, are doing the same (alienating moderate voters, moving far to the left). I hope that the Democratic Party will lose all these races in November and understand its mistakes. I hope that Joe Biden will return bipartisanship and moderate politics to the Democratic Party.

Also (don't belongs to this topic), I will miss you, Dan Lipinski, you were very, very good Congressman

Conservative Democrats = “I hope progressive Democrats who won their primary fair and square loss their elections to Republicans!”

Also Conservative Democrats = “How DARE you critique our lord and savior Joe Biden?! Even one criticism of Joe Biden might as well be a vote for TRUMP!”

I don't think it's better to have a Republican in Congress than a progressive Democrat (but not like Tlaib or Omar - Generic Republican is better than them). I hope they lose because then maybe Democratic voters will finally understand that moderate voters cannot be ignored. The Democratic Party should be for everyone, but more and more it looks like it is only for the ultra-left

What reality do you live in. It’s the exact opposite.

You deny, that ultra-left has bigger and bigger influence in the party with every passing year? Not even funny.....

Larger influence? Sure, but even then it’s only comparing to the ultra-moderate / establishment domination of the Democratic Party in the 80’s and particularly the 90’s that progressive influence has begun to grow, and even then only in the latter half of the 2000’s.

For the better, I might add. But that’s a different conversation.

To suggest Moderate’s are being ‘silenced’ is ridiculous with Joe Biden as the nominee, Hillary Clinton and Obama (a former New Democrat aligned Democrat himself) as our former nominee’s and the New Democrats still being the largest caucus in the party.

Get a grip. Y’all are doing the silencing, not being silenced, lmao.

Biden, Hillary and Obama - moderates? Even more funny. Moderates are people like Manchin or Sinema. Hillary, Obama and Biden are SOLID establishment liberals, and no less.

If you want to look at the ‘factions’ of the Democratic Party like this;

Progressive / Liberal / Moderate / Conservative, then I can somewhat understand your opinion if you’re on the Conservative side of that spectrum. I’m also very happy y’all are declining in influence vis a vis the progressive side, but I can understand. But you had decades of domination as one of the largest factions in our party, and now things are changing. Suck it up and ally yourselves with the moderates (still the largest faction in the party) or go become Republicans like the rest of your Dixiecrat brethren. Idk what to tell you. If we have our way, this will be a center-left to left wing party, and I don’t apologize for that.

Moderates almost never dominated in Democratic Party. FDR. He was moderate or progressive? He was progressive, but moderate by today's standards. LBJ? He was moderate or progressive? (Only as President) He was progressive, but moderate by today's standards. Even Barack Obama. He was progressive, but he is moderate by today's standards

FDR and LBJ, both of whom wanted to establish national health care systems, were neither moderates. FDR was a progressive in my opinion, and LBJ was an establishment Liberal, but of course both are also the products of their time. And you’re trying to tell me Southern Dixiecrats weren’t a powerful force in the party, particularly in Congress, constantly holding up their progressive agendas’s? I’m glad Dixiecrats like you have gone from a powerful force to a pipsqueak, sorry not sorry.

Moderates still control this party. And yes both Biden and Hillary are moderates. Hillary didn’t even support a public option FFS.

1. I'm not Dixiecrat and I don't like Dixiecrats
2. What is your logic? Who is progressive and liberal Democrats in your opinion? Is Sanders liberal and Omar progressive? And wasn't Obamacare a progressive reform?

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Andriy still seems to be taking the Dan Lipinski loss pretty hard. I don't know why he's so beaten up about it. Need not worry, there's another party in the United States that wants to take away women's reproductive health rights. I'm sure he'll find a comfortable home there.

Thanks for the advice, but I will decide for myself whether to support the Republicans from now on. And I decided that I would remain in the Democratic Party, a party that has not yet lost all the fundamental principles of humanity, compassion and democracy.

And I will also give you advice: understand that the Democratic Party should have a place for everyone, including pro-life people, or create your own party intolerant of other opinions.

And, yes, I really took Dan Lipinski's defeat very hard. Because I didn't see it as another primary, where the activist in AOC-style defeated the mainstream incumbent, but I took it as it really is, that Democrats don't want to see pro-life politicians in their ranks. And if you also don't want to see pro-life politicians in the DP, then accept the fact that Democrats will almost always lose winnable Senate, House and gubernatorial races in conservative areas and lose most of their voters.

Democratic Party is party for all. And if I support the pro-life movement, death penalty, oppose to legalization of marijuana and break with the party on several other issues, but fully agree with the party on other issues, including all economic issues, gun conrtol and climate change and many others - this is no reason to expel me from the party and compare me to racists, Nazis and Dixiecrats.

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Andriy still seems to be taking the Dan Lipinski loss pretty hard. I don't know why he's so beaten up about it. Need not worry, there's another party in the United States that wants to take away women's reproductive health rights. I'm sure he'll find a comfortable home there.

Thanks for the advice, but I will decide for myself whether to support the Republicans from now on. And I decided that I would remain in the Democratic Party, a party that has not yet lost all the fundamental principles of humanity, compassion and democracy.

And I will also give you advice: understand that the Democratic Party should have a place for everyone, including pro-life people, or create your own party intolerant of other opinions.

And, yes, I really took Dan Lipinski's defeat very hard. Because I didn't see it as another primary, where the activist in AOC-style defeated the mainstream incumbent, but I took it as it really is, that Democrats don't want to see pro-life politicians in their ranks. And if you also don't want to see pro-life politicians in the DP, then accept the fact that Democrats will almost always lose winnable Senate, House and gubernatorial races in conservative areas and lose most of their voters.

Democratic Party is party for all. And if I support the pro-life movement, death penalty, oppose to legalization of marijuana and break with the party on several other issues, but fully agree with the party on other issues, including all economic issues, gun conrtol and climate change and many others - this is no reason to expel me from the party and compare me to racists, Nazis and Dixiecrats.

You are not a Democrat.

You are not even an American.

Stop telling foreign political parties what to do.

Literally no one cares.

And can you call yourself a people with democratic policies? If I'm not American, then I can't express my opinion, do you think? I want and will express my thoughts, like you it or not, (put me on ignore if you want). And, by the way, I do not forbid you, unlike you, to criticize political parties in Ukraine.

And a little advice: be more polite to people

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Andriy still seems to be taking the Dan Lipinski loss pretty hard. I don't know why he's so beaten up about it. Need not worry, there's another party in the United States that wants to take away women's reproductive health rights. I'm sure he'll find a comfortable home there.

Thanks for the advice, but I will decide for myself whether to support the Republicans from now on. And I decided that I would remain in the Democratic Party, a party that has not yet lost all the fundamental principles of humanity, compassion and democracy.

And I will also give you advice: understand that the Democratic Party should have a place for everyone, including pro-life people, or create your own party intolerant of other opinions.

And, yes, I really took Dan Lipinski's defeat very hard. Because I didn't see it as another primary, where the activist in AOC-style defeated the mainstream incumbent, but I took it as it really is, that Democrats don't want to see pro-life politicians in their ranks. And if you also don't want to see pro-life politicians in the DP, then accept the fact that Democrats will almost always lose winnable Senate, House and gubernatorial races in conservative areas and lose most of their voters.

Democratic Party is party for all. And if I support the pro-life movement, death penalty, oppose to legalization of marijuana and break with the party on several other issues, but fully agree with the party on other issues, including all economic issues, gun conrtol and climate change and many others - this is no reason to expel me from the party and compare me to racists, Nazis and Dixiecrats.

You are not a Democrat.

You are not even an American.

Stop telling foreign political parties what to do.

Literally no one cares.

And can you call yourself a people with democratic policies? If I'm not American, then I can't express my opinion, do you think? I want and will express my thoughts, like you it or not, (put me on ignore if you want). And, by the way, I do not forbid you, unlike you, to criticize political parties in Ukraine.

And a little advice: be more polite to people

I really don't care if you criticize the Democratic Party.  But a person who lives over a thousand miles away from the country is not a "lifelong Blue Dog Democrat".  You cannot "remain" in a party that you were never a part of in the first place.  Because it's not your party.  It doesn't need to appeal to the smoltchanov's and the АndriуValeriovich's of the world any more than Слуга народу needs people like me to stay viable.

I don't see anything wrong with you saying, "I will stay in the party "Servant of the People"", even if you are not Ukrainian. About the Democratic Party, I say hypothetically (if I were a US citizen, I would belong to the Democratic Party ..., so ...)