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Junior Chimp
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« on: May 30, 2020, 11:32:09 AM »

Democrats only doing well because well TRUMP IS ON THE BALLOT. But assuming he loses will the Populist at times racial Message from him die with him?

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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2020, 12:33:22 PM »

The GOP and its politicians will do whatever is politically advantageous. So, if Trump gets curb-stomped by Biden, the answer to your question is 'yes'. If it's a closer race, it's a 'no'. Principle in the Republican Party is long-dead, cauterized by Trump and his lackeys.
I mean if we had a President Kasich or President Rubio instead of Trump Arizona, Georgia and Texas wouldn't be competitive this year.

So, it's not so much about Demographics in those States. Instead it's about Trump and Trumpism.

Kasich or Rubio would have beaten Clinton in an Obama-2008 like landslide in 2016 and they both would have done the same in 2020.

Democrats are incredibly lucky that they could & can run against Trump for 3 Election Cycles in a row.

I doubt that they will have this much luck in the Future.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2020, 01:01:28 PM »

The GOP and its politicians will do whatever is politically advantageous. So, if Trump gets curb-stomped by Biden, the answer to your question is 'yes'. If it's a closer race, it's a 'no'. Principle in the Republican Party is long-dead, cauterized by Trump and his lackeys.
I mean if we had a President Kasich or President Rubio instead of Trump Arizona, Georgia and Texas wouldn't be competitive this year.

So, it's not so much about Demographics in those States. Instead it's about Trump and Trumpism.

Kasich or Rubio would have beaten Clinton in an Obama-2008 like landslide in 2016 and they both would have done the same in 2020.

Democrats are incredibly lucky that they could & can run against Trump for 3 Election Cycles in a row.

I doubt that they will have this much luck in the Future.

Honestly, Republicans wouldn't have even lost the House if anyone else was president. Democrats might have still picked up a few seats like CA-49, VA-10, IL-10 (which wouldn't flip in 2016), CO-06, but most of those suburban voters would not be disgusted with Kasich or Rubio like they are with Trump.
Look, I don't deny that there are Demographic Changes going on in Texas, Arizona and Georgia BUT these are not as fast as some Democrats her on Talk Elections claim.

Take Texas for example. Democrats needed a perfect Wave/Storm to take out John Culberson and Pete Sessions. They wouldn't have won those under a Kasich or Rubio Presidency because both wouldn't have been as toxic as Trump and Cruz were in the Suburbs. To support my claim: Governor Abbott got reelected the same Night by a convincing margin which means you put a Generic R in there TX is still a high single digit State for Democrats.

Same with Georgia. Anyone else but Kemp and no Trump and the Republican wins by 7-9 Points.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2020, 02:02:31 PM »

Let's face it, the R party after Speaker Paul Ryan left, whom was the last enforser of the R party, doesnt have a dominant leader after McConnell loses the Senate in 2020. Kevin McCarthy isnt dominant like Gingrich, Army, Delay, Boehner and Paul Ryan and is a lightweight.  That's why so many Rs didnt give him a chance to be elected as Speaker in 2018 or 2020, due to retirements. Once Trump is prosecuted,  and jailed and loses his assets like Trump Towers as restitution,  Trumpism will end.
# 1 Trump will never be prosecuted (Remember Trump wanted Hillary Clinton to be prosecuted and she is still standing)
# 2 Trump will never get jailed.
# 3 Trump will never lose assets like Trump Tower & and all the properties he is having because even if he isn't President anymore his children Donald Trump Jr, Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump and Lara Trump will carry the torch forward doing the Family's Business.

So while Trumpism will die from a Political Perspective once he loses and is out of Office (No more tandtrums, hatred, bigotry, etc.) the Trump Family will still excist and his Daughter Ivanka actually could still hold a Political Office down the Road.
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