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« Reply #375 on: May 31, 2020, 10:55:50 AM »

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).
When rioters are throwing rocks at police officers, the cops have every right to defend themselves and their colleagues. I assure you, had the anti-lockdown protestors down the same last month, you would have been all for the police bashing some skulls.
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« Reply #376 on: May 31, 2020, 10:57:20 AM »

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).
When rioters are throwing rocks at police officers, the cops have every right to defend themselves and their colleagues. I assure you, had the anti-lockdown protestors down the same last month, you would have been all for the police bashing some skulls.

And when cops start reacting with excessive force in any context, the public has the same right to respond right back in excess, Republican.
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« Reply #377 on: May 31, 2020, 11:01:03 AM »

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).
When rioters are throwing rocks at police officers, the cops have every right to defend themselves and their colleagues. I assure you, had the anti-lockdown protestors down the same last month, you would have been all for the police bashing some skulls.

And when cops start reacting with excessive force in any context, the public has the same right to respond right back in excess, Republican.
...No, the police have the right to protect themselves. You do realize these police are humans with families as well, right?
If they are having projectiles thrown at them, they have every right and an obligation to use force. Deescalation only works when the other side isn’t already acting violent.

And you are calling me a Republican?
Why not call Fuzzy a Democrat or John Dule a socialist while you are at it?
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« Reply #378 on: May 31, 2020, 11:06:17 AM »

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).
When rioters are throwing rocks at police officers, the cops have every right to defend themselves and their colleagues. I assure you, had the anti-lockdown protestors down the same last month, you would have been all for the police bashing some skulls.

And when cops start reacting with excessive force in any context, the public has the same right to respond right back in excess, Republican.
...No, the police have the right to protect themselves. You do realize these police are humans with families as well, right?
If they are having projectiles thrown at them, they have every right and an obligation to use force. Deescalation only works when the other side isn’t already acting violent.

Thanks for admitting that people have a right to self-defense against excessive behavior! I'm certainly not somebody who believes in the concept of deescalation, so we're definitely in agreement there.

And you are calling me a Republican?
Why not call Fuzzy a Democrat or John Dule a socialist while you are at it?

Probably because they don't spend all of their time trying to virtue-signal about how much they agree with one side while sporting the avatar of another. Fuzzy is more of a Democrat than you by self-admission, lol.

At any rate, I have no interest in continuing an argument with someone who's a C-tier poster at best.
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« Reply #379 on: May 31, 2020, 11:10:54 AM »

I refuse a dichotomy where I can’t support the protestors (the VAST majority of whom were peaceful) while condemning the destruction of my already hurting city ... life isn’t a blank check.  That is all.
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« Reply #380 on: May 31, 2020, 11:12:43 AM »

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« Reply #381 on: May 31, 2020, 11:17:23 AM »

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).
When rioters are throwing rocks at police officers, the cops have every right to defend themselves and their colleagues. I assure you, had the anti-lockdown protestors down the same last month, you would have been all for the police bashing some skulls.

And when cops start reacting with excessive force in any context, the public has the same right to respond right back in excess, Republican.
...No, the police have the right to protect themselves. You do realize these police are humans with families as well, right?
If they are having projectiles thrown at them, they have every right and an obligation to use force. Deescalation only works when the other side isn’t already acting violent.

Thanks for admitting that people have a right to self-defense against excessive behavior! I'm certainly not somebody who believes in the concept of deescalation, so we're definitely in agreement there
Great, now will you admit that protestors throwing rocks at police officers is excessive behavior which gives the police the right to use force? Or were you just trying to score some cheap points?
And deescalation does work, but only when one side isn’t already literally throwing rocks at the police.

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At any rate, I have no interest in continuing an argument with someone who's a C-tier poster at best.
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« Reply #382 on: May 31, 2020, 11:23:32 AM »



I am stunned this crew isn't already serving decades long prison sentences
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« Reply #383 on: May 31, 2020, 11:25:40 AM »

Cops should arrest him immediately after this chaos.
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« Reply #384 on: May 31, 2020, 11:25:41 AM »

The people protesting and looting in the US cities + the police should go home now and take a chill (pill).

Black men will at times get killed again by a crazy white police officer, while 99.9% of other white police officers are not killing one ...

You cannot change this by trashing shops or whatever. You can only change it by better psychological help for people in need, a good healthcare system, a declining wealth gap and by a demilitarization of the society and police.
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« Reply #385 on: May 31, 2020, 11:26:37 AM »

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

It's like they're going out of their way to alienate as many people as possible. Not very smart.
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« Reply #386 on: May 31, 2020, 11:33:55 AM »

If a bunch of right wing nuts rioted all over the country resulting in a bunch of major cities being on fire I doubt google or any other major corporation would have a nice ribbon for them at the bottom of their page.
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« Reply #387 on: May 31, 2020, 11:34:54 AM »

I refuse a dichotomy where I can’t support the protestors (the VAST majority of whom were peaceful) while condemning the destruction of my already hurting city ... life isn’t a blank check.  That is all.

They shut down a state legislative session down with guns a month ago. I guess not.
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« Reply #388 on: May 31, 2020, 11:39:03 AM »



I am stunned this crew isn't already serving decades long prison sentences

Jail. Now.
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« Reply #389 on: May 31, 2020, 11:42:35 AM »

Tender derailing a thread to parrot his warped views from rural Austria again...

The thing is that I’m usually pretty right about those kinds of things.

If both sides don’t de-escalate quickly, the chances for Trump 2.0 are rising exponentially over the coming months.
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« Reply #390 on: May 31, 2020, 11:49:50 AM »

Tender derailing a thread to parrot his warped views from rural Austria again...

The thing is that I’m usually pretty right about those kinds of things.

If both sides don’t de-escalate quickly, the chances for Trump 2.0 are rising exponentially over the coming months.

The credibility of "both sides do it" arguments is higher than ever. These are considerably worse than the C'Ville protests and you have most the left outright defending them and celebrities bailing arsonists and looters out of jail. The left has no moral authority over anyone anymore.
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« Reply #391 on: May 31, 2020, 11:57:39 AM »
« Edited: May 31, 2020, 12:11:48 PM by lfromnj »



The cops in the 2nd tweet are too nice
ARREST THEM!

Why do we have cops enforcing a bs curfew but can't even attack looters? Its impossible to keep all the protesters off the streets and it should be unconstitutional.
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« Reply #392 on: May 31, 2020, 12:07:48 PM »



Finally stopping the looters, what a hero Purple heart

Commentary is great.
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« Reply #393 on: May 31, 2020, 12:08:41 PM »

Absolutely surreal just watching the CVS by me (Clark and Division in Chicago) get beaten in with a baseball bat and looted by up to 20-30 different cars ... just a hunch here, too, but they did not look like protesters.  They looked like criminals taking advantage of the situation.

I go in that CVS all the time.  I would say 60% of the employees, including the manager (I believe), are minorities.  They don't deserve this.  It gives me heartache that I am forced by some to either keep my mouth shut about the injustice these minority store owners and managers are suffering from looting and property damage or feel like I'm not supporting the Black Americans across this country who are victims of racial prejudice and violence.  I like to think I can support both and continue to see a gray area and approach each situation critically and fairly.  I certainly will try to continue to do that.
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« Reply #394 on: May 31, 2020, 12:21:01 PM »

The logistics of these protests and demonstrations are just so embarrassing. Every protest, every demonstration and every riot needs to be held at or in close proximity to a police station. Right now, all of these randomized demonstration locations mean that whenever cops pop their power-boners or the event breaks down into riots, the damage is always done in areas that don't send a message, leading to plenty of collateral residential and commercial damage.

The cops are invariably going to show up and start beating the s[inks]t out of people regardless of how the event occurs or where, so it only makes sense to push them back to their home turf - and with enough people at various locales, minimizes the chances of police being able to gang up on individual sites. It also ensures that there's no collateral damage of innocent residences and businesses.

This way, when the cops decide to start attacking people and acting like animals, it's only going to be the cops who are getting hurt/killed and only police stations getting torched (i.e. the only parties deserving of such).
Protesters should gather and have their temperature taken, and ID's checked for contact tracing. Persons from out of town and minors without a parent or guardian should be barred. Protestors should be given a wrist band with a chip. The route should be planned out in advance and the side streets barricaded. Periodically, protesters should go through a chip detector. Masks should be distributed, and social distancing encouraged. Sanitization stations should be provided.
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« Reply #395 on: May 31, 2020, 12:28:59 PM »

Bill de Blasio actually thought he'd make a good president... let that sink in.
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« Reply #396 on: May 31, 2020, 12:34:44 PM »

Trump to designate ANTIFA as a terrorist organization - NBC

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-says-he-will-designate-antifa-terrorist-organization-gop-points-n1220321
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« Reply #397 on: May 31, 2020, 12:35:49 PM »

One thing to bear in mind before we 'both sidez'

The police should always be held to a higher standard than the general public. That's the whole point of the police. A police officer needlessly attacking a civilian is always worse than a civilian needlessly attacking the police.
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« Reply #398 on: May 31, 2020, 12:36:34 PM »


It's all talk. "Antifa" is an umbrella term for thousands of disparate organisations. Unless he plans to go comprehensively after a list of specific groups, he'd need to massively expand the scope of currently existing law to target "antifa" as an ideological grouping.
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« Reply #399 on: May 31, 2020, 12:38:05 PM »


Does the President even have that sort of power? I remember a few years back, a petition was sent to the White House (Obama) to designate BLM as a terrorist organization and they said that they had no authority to do so.
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