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EastAnglianLefty
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« on: May 27, 2020, 06:23:41 AM »

The campaign saw a significant firming up of the Labour vote, largely driven by continuing distrust of the Tories and suspicion that they were going to reverse some of the major achievements of the 1997-2010 period.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2020, 04:27:38 AM »

I think we can assume that in the event of an absolute wipeout, UNS might give broadly accurate numbers overall but it would be useless for individual seats. In the event of a Labour landslide, there are seats where the Tories got 60% last time which are much more vulnerable than seats where they got 45%, simply because the Tory voters in the latter are much less likely to ever consider voting Labour than Tory voters in the former.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2020, 09:58:32 AM »

I think we can assume that in the event of an absolute wipeout, UNS might give broadly accurate numbers overall but it would be useless for individual seats. In the event of a Labour landslide, there are seats where the Tories got 60% last time which are much more vulnerable than seats where they got 45%, simply because the Tory voters in the latter are much less likely to ever consider voting Labour than Tory voters in the former.

Yes, the Canadian example confirms this. In wipeouts like the PC's/NDP in 1993 and the Liberals/Bloc Quebecois in 2011, the survivors are a mix of ultra-safe seats, special local factors, and complete flukes.

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In 1993, one of only two Tory winners was in Saint John, a seat the Tories only won by 5% the previous election. Their candidate was the extremely popular mayor of Saint John and they actually increased their vote share slightly despite a 27% swing against them nationally.

In 2011, Bloc MP Maria Mourani managed to survive despite winning her seat by less than 1% in the previous election, thanks to a peculiar three way split.

Oh, you'd absolutely get flukes and local factors. But it's not just that. If there was a ten point swing to us nationally, it would have much less impact in well-off rural seats with no industrial heritage, because people there have never voted Labour even when they've utterly lost faith with the Tories. But it would likely mean much larger swings to us in places like urban south Essex, because those areas are packed full of swing voters who have a love/hate relationship with Labour.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2020, 09:51:45 AM »

Given that a substantial proportion of Central Belt residents have shown themselves willing to vote either Labour or SNP depending on the circumstances, I suspect the fact that we were about as popular as chlamydia also needs to be taken into account. They may have voted different ways in the referendum, but some of those going Labour '17-SNP '19 were motivated by the same things as those who went Labour '17-Brexit Party '19 in northern England.
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