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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: May 21, 2020, 11:51:18 PM »
« edited: May 21, 2020, 11:54:26 PM by The scissors of false economy »

Without a law like this, HK citizens could get away with some grave offenses against the central government.

Oh no, what a nightmare.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2020, 12:06:40 AM »

The same principles applied to the United States would be entirely uncontroversial

And why is that, do you think?

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2020, 08:04:41 PM »

Short answer: Orientalism.

A little elaboration: this is an American forum, and Americans are used to a manner of speaking about international affairs where its privilege and interests are just kind of "assumed", if not as "good", at least as "not evil."

I've put quite a bit of thought into how I perceive issues pertaining to China and it's not based on knee-jerk jingoism or mere perceived self-interest that I'm inclined to distrust its government and oppose efforts to geographically extend the authority of that government. However, I agree with you that many Americans do think and talk about China (and other Asian countries with big, domineering state apparatuses) in Orientalist and racist ways, and I'm happy to accept that there might be elements of that in my own thinking about the place that I don't notice because I'm not Chinese.
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