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« on: May 19, 2020, 12:03:52 PM »
« edited: May 19, 2020, 12:07:38 PM by lfromnj »

Of course somehow hack Marist still has a A+ rating

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2020, 12:15:33 PM »

I really hope they put out the general election model soon.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2020, 12:22:44 PM »

Marist's polls are consistently very inaccurate, I have no idea how they are the the highest rated.

Meanwhile the Gold Standard Data for Progress poll gets a B-? Sick stuff.
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2020, 12:24:45 PM »

I really hope they put out the general election model soon.

538 is 278 blue wall, its Nate Silver model, AZ can be argued
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2020, 12:33:40 PM »

Marist's polls are consistently very inaccurate, I have no idea how they are the the highest rated.

Meanwhile the Gold Standard Data for Progress poll gets a B-? Sick stuff.

Its really incredible, going by their 2018 senate polls the only state they got right was Arizona, the rest were all 5+ points off which is not acceptable for a "A+" tier pollster.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2020, 01:18:09 PM »

Have seen their polls posted here recently, but they've banned OurProgress/The Progress Campaign polls in their new ratings, so maybe they shouldn't be posted here anymore?
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2020, 01:31:18 PM »

Have seen their polls posted here recently, but they've banned OurProgress/The Progress Campaign polls in their new ratings, so maybe they shouldn't be posted here anymore?

Did they definitively? I heard they were vetting them, but that was the last I heard
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2020, 01:36:24 PM »

Have seen their polls posted here recently, but they've banned OurProgress/The Progress Campaign polls in their new ratings, so maybe they shouldn't be posted here anymore?

Did they definitively? I heard they were vetting them, but that was the last I heard

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2020, 02:01:34 PM »

It’s amusing that the A-tier pollster with the largest Dem bias is FoxNews.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2020, 02:06:20 PM »
« Edited: May 19, 2020, 02:19:24 PM by TiltsAreUnderrated »

Have seen their polls posted here recently, but they've banned OurProgress/The Progress Campaign polls in their new ratings, so maybe they shouldn't be posted here anymore?

Did they definitively? I heard they were vetting them, but that was the last I heard





Only 2 polls are marked in that pic, so I'd give it a week before declaring this definitive.
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2020, 02:20:24 PM »

Memerson has an A-?  I didn't see that one coming.
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2020, 02:30:38 PM »

I could throw pins at a magnetic dartboard and come up with better ratings than this...by the way, the D4P polling group has also been historically very inaccurate
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2020, 04:40:10 PM »

I just want them to come out with their forecasts for 2020 already. Might be able to find it a few days early by using the adress bar, which I was able to do in 2018. Thye were still working out their meathodology and had weird ratings like IN safe Donnelly, ND Lean Heitkamp, Texas Safe Cruz; I think they must've just weight incumbency with the partisan lean an dnothing else.
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2020, 05:37:50 PM »

I just want them to come out with their forecasts for 2020 already. Might be able to find it a few days early by using the adress bar, which I was able to do in 2018. Thye were still working out their meathodology and had weird ratings like IN safe Donnelly, ND Lean Heitkamp, Texas Safe Cruz; I think they must've just weight incumbency with the partisan lean an dnothing else.

Nate Silver seems too focused on being an amateur epidemiologist these days, it'll probably a be a while.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2020, 05:44:04 PM »

I just want them to come out with their forecasts for 2020 already. Might be able to find it a few days early by using the adress bar, which I was able to do in 2018. Thye were still working out their meathodology and had weird ratings like IN safe Donnelly, ND Lean Heitkamp, Texas Safe Cruz; I think they must've just weight incumbency with the partisan lean an dnothing else.

The model started in late June in 2016, that's probably a good guess.
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2020, 05:59:16 PM »

Release the model Nate
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2020, 08:06:29 PM »

I just want them to come out with their forecasts for 2020 already. Might be able to find it a few days early by using the adress bar, which I was able to do in 2018. Thye were still working out their meathodology and had weird ratings like IN safe Donnelly, ND Lean Heitkamp, Texas Safe Cruz; I think they must've just weight incumbency with the partisan lean an dnothing else.

The model started in late June in 2016, that's probably a good guess.

With the (unofficial) start of the campaign still yet to be delayed, that's probably a little overly "optimistic" for now. I would shoot for sometime between late August/early October would be my guess, after all.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2020, 09:23:39 PM »

I just want them to come out with their forecasts for 2020 already. Might be able to find it a few days early by using the adress bar, which I was able to do in 2018. Thye were still working out their meathodology and had weird ratings like IN safe Donnelly, ND Lean Heitkamp, Texas Safe Cruz; I think they must've just weight incumbency with the partisan lean an dnothing else.

The model started in late June in 2016, that's probably a good guess.

With the (unofficial) start of the campaign still yet to be delayed, that's probably a little overly "optimistic" for now. I would shoot for sometime between late August/early October would be my guess, after all.

I don't think there's any way the model is released later than three months out from election day (which would be August 3rd this time). Fivethirtyeight needs to make money by people obsessively refreshing, after all. Maybe the House (yes, he said he's doing that again) and Senate models come a little later...in 2018 they came on on August 16th. I could see Silver only starting on the House and Senate models later this time due to the Presidential so maybe they come on in September.
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2020, 10:29:36 PM »

I just want them to come out with their forecasts for 2020 already. Might be able to find it a few days early by using the adress bar, which I was able to do in 2018. Thye were still working out their meathodology and had weird ratings like IN safe Donnelly, ND Lean Heitkamp, Texas Safe Cruz; I think they must've just weight incumbency with the partisan lean an dnothing else.

The model started in late June in 2016, that's probably a good guess.

With the (unofficial) start of the campaign still yet to be delayed, that's probably a little overly "optimistic" for now. I would shoot for sometime between late August/early October would be my guess, after all.

I don't think there's any way the model is released later than three months out from election day (which would be August 3rd this time). Fivethirtyeight needs to make money by people obsessively refreshing, after all. Maybe the House (yes, he said he's doing that again) and Senate models come a little later...in 2018 they came on on August 16th. I could see Silver only starting on the House and Senate models later this time due to the Presidential so maybe they come on in September.

They also had a gubernatorial forecast in 2018 though, and that was later right?

Anyway, in whichever case it will be a special instance this year, taking place under unforeseen circumstances not present back then in that race, having happened four years ago.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2020, 04:32:39 AM »

Of course somehow hack Marist still has a A+ rating

Yes, Evers +10 and Donnelly +3 aged very well.
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