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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2020, 02:00:11 PM »

If it's a 50 split Senate with any combination of AZ, CO, KS, ME or MT, then for the first 2 years, McConnell will have sway over nominations and Bill's going to floor. Due to power sharing agreement when Dems were in minority in 2000
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2020, 02:06:35 PM »

Any undoing of the Trump agenda is progressive.

I expect some "receivership socialism" to arise in the later stages of the Trump Presidency with such being reversed through successful privatization while Biden is President... but "receivership socialism" is not especially progressive. 
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2020, 02:33:55 PM »

IF he has the Senate I think it will be transformative

He’ll sure up Obamacare to make a permanent fixture of our nations healthcare

He’ll likely put two justices on SCOTUS (Ginsburg and Breyer would retire, right?!). Assuring Dems have at least a prayer at a decent SCOTUS in the future.

He’ll sure up our image around the world

Make us a leader on climate change and because he won’t be running for a second term I can see him acting way more progressive than many expect him too. But not too progressive to ruin Dems 2024 chances.

I think he’ll go down as an important figure who ran to save the country from Trump and pass the to tortch to a new generation
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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2020, 03:40:37 PM »

I went with a transitional presidency. I wholeheartedly agree with the 1896 parallel especially if Warren winds up as VP.

Like President William McKinley, a President Joe Biden dies in office early in his term with his Veep serving the remainder (although not as a result of an assassination).  I hope that whoever serves the role of a Theodore Roosevelt shouldn't be as squeamish as he was about effectively serving two terms but only running for one in his own right.  


I would hope and think that Biden serves a full term but steps aside in 2024 in order for his VP to pick up the reigns. Who then hopefully goes on to serve two full terms.
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2020, 04:09:28 PM »

IF he has the Senate I think it will be transformative

He’ll sure up Obamacare to make a permanent fixture of our nations healthcare

He’ll likely put two justices on SCOTUS (Ginsburg and Breyer would retire, right?!). Assuring Dems have at least a prayer at a decent SCOTUS in the future.

He’ll sure up our image around the world

Make us a leader on climate change and because he won’t be running for a second term I can see him acting way more progressive than many expect him too. But not too progressive to ruin Dems 2024 chances.

I think he’ll go down as an important figure who ran to save the country from Trump and pass the to tortch to a new generation

By the same token, without the Senate I think he acts as moderate as possible in an attempt to build up a sizeable majority to work with during the next Presidency. Being a transitional figure more than transformative
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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2020, 04:13:08 PM »

IF he has the Senate I think it will be transformative

He’ll sure up Obamacare to make a permanent fixture of our nations healthcare

He’ll likely put two justices on SCOTUS (Ginsburg and Breyer would retire, right?!). Assuring Dems have at least a prayer at a decent SCOTUS in the future.

He’ll sure up our image around the world

Make us a leader on climate change and because he won’t be running for a second term I can see him acting way more progressive than many expect him too. But not too progressive to ruin Dems 2024 chances.

I think he’ll go down as an important figure who ran to save the country from Trump and pass the to tortch to a new generation

By the same token, without the Senate I think he acts as moderate as possible in an attempt to build up a sizeable majority to work with during the next Presidency. Being a transitional figure more than transformative

Because that worked out so well for Obama.
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2020, 04:15:51 PM »

I went with a transitional presidency. I wholeheartedly agree with the 1896 parallel especially if Warren winds up as VP.

I don't think it will be Warren but a younger person such as Whitmer or Harris in theory could be it.
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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2020, 04:26:34 PM »

None.

The taken over Senate largely sit on their hands trying to be "bipartisan" having learned nothing from '08.

A not taken over Senate means the same gridlock of the Obama years.

The chance for an EO-trigger happy president was there and the voters threw it out because "muh electability".
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2020, 04:30:30 PM »

I went with a transitional presidency. I wholeheartedly agree with the 1896 parallel especially if Warren winds up as VP.

Like President William McKinley, a President Joe Biden dies in office early in his term with his Veep serving the remainder (although not as a result of an assassination).  I hope that whoever serves the role of a Theodore Roosevelt shouldn't be as squeamish as he was about effectively serving two terms but only running for one in his own right.  


If the Presidency feels vacant with more than two years remaining, it counts like a full term for the VP. Ford wouldn't be eligible to run in 1980, while LBJ was in 1968. Truman was President when the amendment was passed, but he was still eligible for 1952 due to grandfather's clause.

During TR's time there was no term limits whatsoever, just Washington "precedent".
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2020, 04:35:44 PM »

Biden would likely be the most progressive President since LBJ, if only by default. Out of the Democratic Presidents between the two, Carter governed pretty conservatively (and only became liberals' darling in the retirement, much like Schmidt in Germany), Clinton was a third-wayer and Obama, while more progressive than Clinton, always seemed closer to the DLC-types than the left (he campaigned to the Hillary's left and dissed the DLC crowd, but surrounded himself with them after winning the election).
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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2020, 02:59:47 PM »

Parties almost never alternate one term Presidency's, only time in American history was 1888 and 1892. 1896 started a new majority and Teddy broke it open for the GOP after 1902. You can sort of see this now, modest Biden/VP win this year and 2024 followed by GA, TX, NC, FL breaking open for Dems due to demographics in the middle of this decade.

We live in strange times, and I have little doubt that if Biden is elected he will only serve for one term. Biden will be nearly 82 years old by Election Day 2024. I think the bigger question is who becomes 47th president — a Republican or a Democrat? That's hard to say at this point, but we do tend to alternate.
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« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2020, 10:09:42 PM »

Maybe some progressive stuff here and there but I see it as more status quo liberalism.
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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2020, 09:22:36 AM »

I'm working under the assumption he'll basically be third term Obama
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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2020, 01:09:39 PM »

Too soon to say honestly. I can either see him being a transition to a more progressive Presidency that starts in 2024 (or earlier if Biden doesn't finish his term and his VP proves progressive) or as a forgettable lameduck Presidency that leads to a more competent but more politically polished version of Trump (with dashes of GWB) in 2024.
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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2020, 02:06:21 PM »

Depends on two things: Whether he tries to move the country at least somewhat in a progressive direction and whether or not Democrats take the Senate.

If he governs as at least somewhat as a progressive and Democrats have the Senate, then it’s a transitional term away from Trumpism, and Democrats make some progress, especially on healthcare and climate change. 2022 is probably not great for Democrats, but is better than 2010 due to higher base turnout.

If Democrats don’t take the Senate, he gets a few things done through EOs, but it’s mostly a lot of gridlock.

If, on the other hand, he tries to be “bipartisan” and “work with Republicans”, very little will get done or change, as Republicans will predictably block everything he tries to do and blame him for not getting anything done. Base turnout will be down among Democrats and 2022 will be a bloodbath, making it even less likely that any progress is made.
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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2020, 02:14:13 PM »

If it's a tied Senate, Biden will still have to work with McConnell due to the 2000, power sharing agreement, when Rs had 51 and Dems had 50
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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2020, 11:17:02 PM »

I love these threads..Dems already starting to measure the drapes just like 16...

If you don't do some advance planning, you can't accomplish anything good if you win. Case in point, this idiot:


whose "accomplishments" consist of taking credit for a bill is predecessor signed, and rubber-stamping his party's judicial nominees amid record staff turnover.
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