House carpetbagging question

[I’m not Stu]

Why does it seem that the most common form of carpetbagging is a Republican running in a heavily Democratic district?

[SevenEleven]

Examples?

[I’m not Stu]

Examples?

CA-47 2018 and 2020: John Briscoe (R-Huntington Beach). CA-33 2020: James Bradley (R-Laguna Niguel). Johnny Nalbandian (R-Los Angeles) carpetbagged at least once (he ran in CA-28 in 2018; running in CA-27 in 2020).

[SevenEleven]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

[I’m not Stu]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

[SevenEleven]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

[I’m not Stu]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

[SevenEleven]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

[I’m not Stu]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

[SevenEleven]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

[I’m not Stu]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Was Gary Miller's previous district that stretched from Diamond Bar to Mission Viejo a bizarre one?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

[SevenEleven]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Was Gary Miller's previous district that stretched from Diamond Bar to Mission Viejo a bizarre one?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

Yes, the Berman-mander was a sight to behold. I actually have the GIS data for it so I've been recreating it to see how it's held up with current numbers. Cardoza's and Lundgren's districts gave me headaches.

[I’m not Stu]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Was Gary Miller's previous district that stretched from Diamond Bar to Mission Viejo a bizarre one?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

Yes, the Berman-mander was a sight to behold. I actually have the GIS data for it so I've been recreating it to see how it's held up with current numbers. Cardoza's and Lundgren's districts gave me headaches.

I wasn't talking about Berman. Was Miller's old district that covered Diamond Bar and Mission Viejo bizarre? What about Calvert's that covered Corona and San Clemente?

[SevenEleven]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Was Gary Miller's previous district that stretched from Diamond Bar to Mission Viejo a bizarre one?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

Yes, the Berman-mander was a sight to behold. I actually have the GIS data for it so I've been recreating it to see how it's held up with current numbers. Cardoza's and Lundgren's districts gave me headaches.

I wasn't talking about Berman. Was Miller's old district that covered Diamond Bar and Mission Viejo bizarre? What about Calvert's that covered Corona and San Clemente?

Michael Berman, Howard's brother, was the mastermind who drew the districts for that entire map. He also drew the Burton map from the 80s.

[I’m not Stu]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Was Gary Miller's previous district that stretched from Diamond Bar to Mission Viejo a bizarre one?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

Yes, the Berman-mander was a sight to behold. I actually have the GIS data for it so I've been recreating it to see how it's held up with current numbers. Cardoza's and Lundgren's districts gave me headaches.

I wasn't talking about Berman. Was Miller's old district that covered Diamond Bar and Mission Viejo bizarre? What about Calvert's that covered Corona and San Clemente?

Michael Berman, Howard's brother, was the mastermind who drew the districts for that entire map. He also drew the Burton map from the 80s.

Was Michael Berman the guy the rashist Brad Sherman was mad at?

[SevenEleven]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Was Gary Miller's previous district that stretched from Diamond Bar to Mission Viejo a bizarre one?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

Yes, the Berman-mander was a sight to behold. I actually have the GIS data for it so I've been recreating it to see how it's held up with current numbers. Cardoza's and Lundgren's districts gave me headaches.

I wasn't talking about Berman. Was Miller's old district that covered Diamond Bar and Mission Viejo bizarre? What about Calvert's that covered Corona and San Clemente?

Michael Berman, Howard's brother, was the mastermind who drew the districts for that entire map. He also drew the Burton map from the 80s.

Was Michael Berman the guy the rashist Brad Sherman was mad at?

Yup. He didn't want a 52% Hispanic district, so Berman drew his brother a 57% Hispanic district.

In 2001, U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Orange County) admitted that she and her colleagues paid $20,000 to map-maker Michael Berman to preserve their seats. “Twenty thousand is nothing to keep your seat,” Sanchez said. “I spend $2 million (campaigning) every election.”

[I’m not Stu]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Was Gary Miller's previous district that stretched from Diamond Bar to Mission Viejo a bizarre one?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

Yes, the Berman-mander was a sight to behold. I actually have the GIS data for it so I've been recreating it to see how it's held up with current numbers. Cardoza's and Lundgren's districts gave me headaches.

I wasn't talking about Berman. Was Miller's old district that covered Diamond Bar and Mission Viejo bizarre? What about Calvert's that covered Corona and San Clemente?

Michael Berman, Howard's brother, was the mastermind who drew the districts for that entire map. He also drew the Burton map from the 80s.

Was Michael Berman the guy the rashist Brad Sherman was mad at?

Yup. He didn't want a 52% Hispanic district, so Berman drew his brother a 57% Hispanic district.

In 2001, U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Orange County) admitted that she and her colleagues paid $20,000 to map-maker Michael Berman to preserve their seats. “Twenty thousand is nothing to keep your seat,” Sanchez said. “I spend $2 million (campaigning) every election.”

Why didn't Berman want a majority-Hispanic district?

[SevenEleven]

To me the most notorious carpet-bagging Republicans in CA would be Dan Lindgren and Tom McClintock, as both are from Southern California but represented Northern California areas in Congress.

I imagine for some of these heavily Dem districts it is hard for them to even find a Republican who lives there and wants to run a guaranteed losing campaign. Not everyone is willing to be Mark Reed.

Gary Miller did it in 2012 and won. Joshua Scott (R-Glendora) is the GOP nominee for CA-32, but I don't know if he lives in CA-32 or CA-27. Do you know which district Scott lives in?

Gary Miller at least represented in that area, so he didn't really move across state. I don't know anything about Joshua Scott.

Miller carpetbagged because he didn't want to run against another incumbent. Bradley likely carpetbagged because he knew Michelle Steel would be the nominee in his home district. Is Bradley some kind of opportunist?

I don't think a similar extremely near district is enough to be considered carpet-bagging IMO

CA-48 and CA-33 aren't all that close. You don't consider that carpetbagging?

Was Gary Miller's previous district that stretched from Diamond Bar to Mission Viejo a bizarre one?

Both districts contain parts of the old CA-46 (Dana Rohrabacher)

Yes, the Berman-mander was a sight to behold. I actually have the GIS data for it so I've been recreating it to see how it's held up with current numbers. Cardoza's and Lundgren's districts gave me headaches.

I wasn't talking about Berman. Was Miller's old district that covered Diamond Bar and Mission Viejo bizarre? What about Calvert's that covered Corona and San Clemente?

Michael Berman, Howard's brother, was the mastermind who drew the districts for that entire map. He also drew the Burton map from the 80s.

Was Michael Berman the guy the rashist Brad Sherman was mad at?

Yup. He didn't want a 52% Hispanic district, so Berman drew his brother a 57% Hispanic district.

In 2001, U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Orange County) admitted that she and her colleagues paid $20,000 to map-maker Michael Berman to preserve their seats. “Twenty thousand is nothing to keep your seat,” Sanchez said. “I spend $2 million (campaigning) every election.”

Why didn't Berman want a majority-Hispanic district?

Berman accepted a 57% district. I think both were worried about a primary from a Hispanic challenger, which is kind of ridiculous. If you do a good job, most people don't care what race you are

[I’m not Stu]

Right. Isn't Steve Cohen a good example? What about the now-retired Gene Green?

[SevenEleven]

Right. Isn't Steve Cohen a good example? What about the now-retired Gene Green?

Yeah, or even the entire Central Valley. Cardoza, Costa, Valadao, Pombo, and Nunes are all Portuguese, not Latino.

You don't have to be African American to be able to represent black voters, and an African American is very capable of representing white voters as well. That's the way it should be.

[I’m not Stu]

Why was Michael Berman’s map so weird?

[SevenEleven]

Why was Michael Berman’s map so weird?

It was maximum incumbent protection. The only seat that changed hands during the maps existence was Richard Pombo-Jerry McNerney. I think that says a lot about how sh**tty Pombo was.

[I’m not Stu]

Do you think Mark Reed would carpetbag and run against Sherman even if Reed’s residence was drawn out?

[SevenEleven]

Do you think Mark Reed would carpetbag and run against Sherman even if Reed’s residence was drawn out?

Yes lol. He's pathological.

[I’m not Stu]

Do you think Mark Reed would carpetbag and run against Sherman even if Reed’s residence was drawn out?

Yes lol. He's pathological.

Many Republican candidate’s carpetbag into safe D districts. My district’s GOP nominee John Briscoe is also crazy. Who’s your GOP nominee, if any?