2020 Census and Redistricting Thread: Wisconsin

[Storr]

Doesn’t Wisconsin likely get 7?

This is the most recent prediction I found, and it has Wisconsin staying at 8.

https://www.beaconjournal.com/news/20200418/ohio-projected-to-lose-seat-in-congress

[Idaho Conservative]

How permissible, or for that matter doable, would it be to combine Dane and Waukesha counties , of course including Jefferson as well? Those Three Counties would surely be well over the population of a single District, but County splits are apparently permissible. Just thinking out loud.

lol no.

Yeah, something like this would be better:

I like it in theory, but those blue and yellow districts appear seriously underpopulated.

EDIT: one could perhaps balance out the blue District somewhat my taking in more of South Milwaukee as the orange District appears somewhat overpopulated, but it appears that the district would probably have to take in most if not all of Walworth County to even out.

Just ignore the SE districts, I mainly wanted to show what you could do with WI-02 and then in return WI-03.

Driftless should be compact

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

I definitely think Janesville and Beloit should be paired with Dane. It's a clearly built-up corridor and they don't belong with the Driftless area or Waukesha and Racine.

[walleye26]

Can anybody tell me how to imbed the picture of my map on here from DRA instead of the link?

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Can anybody tell me how to imbed the picture of my map on here from DRA instead of the link?

You have to screenshot it, upload it to a image hosting platform, and use the [img] function on here.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

A non-partisan WI map.
The 5th is now all-WOW with it reaching ideal population by pulling in from Milwaukee County. The 4th moves south to accompany this. The 1st's border in Rock County is now defined by just two straight lines. The 3rd and 7th are both whole-county CDs rooted in rural Western and Northern WI respectively. The 6th is established as a Central WI district. No municipalities were split (except where they lie within at least two counties).

WI-01: R+1, 49-45 Trump, 50-48 Evers
WI-02: D+15, 63-31 Clinton, 67-31 Evers
WI-03: D+1, 48-45 Trump, 51-47 Evers
WI-04: D+23, 71-24 Clinton, 73-25 Evers
WI-05: R+14, 57-37 Trump, 63-36 Walker
WI-06: R+7, 56-38 Trump, 57-41 Walker
WI-07: R+7, 57-37 Trump, 56-42 Walker
WI-08: R+6, 54-40 Trump, 56-42 Walker

[lfromnj]

A non-partisan WI map.
The 5th is now all-WOW with it reaching ideal population by pulling in from Milwaukee County. The 4th moves south to accompany this. The 1st's border in Rock County is now defined by just two straight lines. The 3rd and 7th are both whole-county CDs rooted in rural Western and Northern WI respectively. The 6th is established as a Central WI district. No municipalities were split.

WI-01: R+1, 49-45 Trump, 50-48 Evers
WI-02: D+15, 63-31 Clinton, 67-31 Evers
WI-03: D+1, 48-45 Trump, 51-47 Evers
WI-04: D+23, 71-24 Clinton, 73-25 Evers
WI-05: R+14, 57-37 Trump, 63-36 Walker
WI-06: R+7, 56-38 Trump, 57-41 Walker
WI-07: R+7, 57-37 Trump, 56-42 Walker
WI-08: R+6, 54-40 Trump, 56-42 Walker

Hey our map is the same besides the 3 northern districts.  .

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

A non-partisan WI map.
The 5th is now all-WOW with it reaching ideal population by pulling in from Milwaukee County. The 4th moves south to accompany this. The 1st's border in Rock County is now defined by just two straight lines. The 3rd and 7th are both whole-county CDs rooted in rural Western and Northern WI respectively. The 6th is established as a Central WI district. No municipalities were split.

WI-01: R+1, 49-45 Trump, 50-48 Evers
WI-02: D+15, 63-31 Clinton, 67-31 Evers
WI-03: D+1, 48-45 Trump, 51-47 Evers
WI-04: D+23, 71-24 Clinton, 73-25 Evers
WI-05: R+14, 57-37 Trump, 63-36 Walker
WI-06: R+7, 56-38 Trump, 57-41 Walker
WI-07: R+7, 57-37 Trump, 56-42 Walker
WI-08: R+6, 54-40 Trump, 56-42 Walker

Hey our map is the same besides the 3 northern districts.  .

Which 3 northern districts? 6, 7, and 8?

[lfromnj]

A non-partisan WI map.
The 5th is now all-WOW with it reaching ideal population by pulling in from Milwaukee County. The 4th moves south to accompany this. The 1st's border in Rock County is now defined by just two straight lines. The 3rd and 7th are both whole-county CDs rooted in rural Western and Northern WI respectively. The 6th is established as a Central WI district. No municipalities were split.

WI-01: R+1, 49-45 Trump, 50-48 Evers
WI-02: D+15, 63-31 Clinton, 67-31 Evers
WI-03: D+1, 48-45 Trump, 51-47 Evers
WI-04: D+23, 71-24 Clinton, 73-25 Evers
WI-05: R+14, 57-37 Trump, 63-36 Walker
WI-06: R+7, 56-38 Trump, 57-41 Walker
WI-07: R+7, 57-37 Trump, 56-42 Walker
WI-08: R+6, 54-40 Trump, 56-42 Walker

Hey our map is the same besides the 3 northern districts.  .

Which 3 northern districts? 6, 7, and 8?

Yeah , look a little bit earlier in my thread, we have the almost exact same split of Milwaukee county with Wauwatosha and the north shore going to WOW and the south suburbs going to Racine. Racine is the same etc.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Anyway, here's my fair map:

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

A non-partisan WI map.
The 5th is now all-WOW with it reaching ideal population by pulling in from Milwaukee County. The 4th moves south to accompany this. The 1st's border in Rock County is now defined by just two straight lines. The 3rd and 7th are both whole-county CDs rooted in rural Western and Northern WI respectively. The 6th is established as a Central WI district. No municipalities were split.

WI-01: R+1, 49-45 Trump, 50-48 Evers
WI-02: D+15, 63-31 Clinton, 67-31 Evers
WI-03: D+1, 48-45 Trump, 51-47 Evers
WI-04: D+23, 71-24 Clinton, 73-25 Evers
WI-05: R+14, 57-37 Trump, 63-36 Walker
WI-06: R+7, 56-38 Trump, 57-41 Walker
WI-07: R+7, 57-37 Trump, 56-42 Walker
WI-08: R+6, 54-40 Trump, 56-42 Walker

Hey our map is the same besides the 3 northern districts.  .

Which 3 northern districts? 6, 7, and 8?

Yeah , look a little bit earlier in my thread, we have the almost exact same split of Milwaukee county with Wauwatosha and the north shore going to WOW and the south suburbs going to Racine. Racine is the same etc.

True, there are many uncanny similarities. The differences are mainly driven by my focus on compactness as well as the 2nd's being moved more to the east I guess?

[lfromnj]

Anyway, here's my fair map:

Why dont u split cinci like u split Milwaukee?
Come on that's a d gerrymander.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Anyway, here's my fair map:

Why dont u split cinci like u split Milwaukee?
Come on that's a d gerrymander.

You split Milwaukee County three ways. You either split the city once or the county twice. I chose the former. Mostly though, I just wanted to not pair the Rock River Valley with Racine and Kenosha. Besides, the 2nd district is only Clinton+4.

[lfromnj]

Anyway, here's my fair map:

Why dont u split cinci like u split Milwaukee?
Come on that's a d gerrymander.

You split Milwaukee County three ways. You either split the city once or the county twice. I chose the former. Mostly though, I just wanted to not pair the Rock River Valley with Racine and Kenosha. Besides, the 2nd district is only Clinton+4.

I can easily show a map which only splits it twice and keeps the city whole.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Anyway, here's my fair map:

Why dont u split cinci like u split Milwaukee?
Come on that's a d gerrymander.

You split Milwaukee County three ways. You either split the city once or the county twice. I chose the former. Mostly though, I just wanted to not pair the Rock River Valley with Racine and Kenosha. Besides, the 2nd district is only Clinton+4.

I can easily show a map which only splits it twice and keeps the city whole.

Be my guest, but I bet it either does weird things with Waukesha or Kenosha/Racine. Also, there's a case for splitting Milwaukee from a minority opportunity perspective to make the North Milwaukee/Ozaukee Dem primary as heavily AA as posible.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Anyway, here's my fair map:

Why dont u split cinci like u split Milwaukee?
Come on that's a d gerrymander.

You split Milwaukee County three ways. You either split the city once or the county twice. I chose the former. Mostly though, I just wanted to not pair the Rock River Valley with Racine and Kenosha. Besides, the 2nd district is only Clinton+4.

I can easily show a map which only splits it twice and keeps the city whole.

Be my guest, but I bet it either does weird things with Waukesha or Kenosha/Racine. Also, there's a case for splitting Milwaukee from a minority opportunity perspective to make the North Milwaukee/Ozaukee Dem primary as heavily AA as posible.

But why have an extra split in both Waukesha AND Washington counties though? The 4th only needs to take from just one. You don't just split 2 counties extra, you split two townships.

[lfromnj]

Takes a small 20k slice of SE waukesha. Much better. Its super easy to keep the city of Milwaukee whole and there isn't a major reason to oppose it except for a D gerrymander. If you want you can take 20k from Rock county instead.

There isn't even a VRA case considering the current Milwaukee district already performs fine.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Anyway, here's my fair map:

Why dont u split cinci like u split Milwaukee?
Come on that's a d gerrymander.

You split Milwaukee County three ways. You either split the city once or the county twice. I chose the former. Mostly though, I just wanted to not pair the Rock River Valley with Racine and Kenosha. Besides, the 2nd district is only Clinton+4.

I can easily show a map which only splits it twice and keeps the city whole.

Be my guest, but I bet it either does weird things with Waukesha or Kenosha/Racine. Also, there's a case for splitting Milwaukee from a minority opportunity perspective to make the North Milwaukee/Ozaukee Dem primary as heavily AA as posible.

But why have an extra split in both Waukesha AND Washington counties though? The 4th only needs to take from just one. You don't just split 2 counties extra, you split two townships.

I was trying to carve around the Menomonee Falls built-up area because that seemed like the least obnoxious WOW cut I could come up with. I'm not too committed to it and am open to suggestions.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://davesredistricting.org/join/adbf7454-2f1f-4918-8985-a7d31af2a888
WI 7 seat map
(not that WI losing a seat is likely at all)

[lfromnj]

https://davesredistricting.org/join/adbf7454-2f1f-4918-8985-a7d31af2a888
WI 7 seat map
(not that WI losing a seat is likely at all)

With  7 you can keep the Fox River valley whole, just have the  brown district eat up most of Winnebago and then the purple can take in Waupaca/Shawano/Menominee county. Then take some rural parts of Winnebago/Fond du lac and Outgamie for the purple district to finish it off.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Takes a small 20k slice of SE waukesha. Much better. Its super easy to keep the city of Milwaukee whole and there isn't a major reason to oppose it except for a D gerrymander. If you want you can take 20k from Rock county instead.

There isn't even a VRA case considering the current Milwaukee district already performs fine.

That's reasonable enough in theory, assuming you think municipal lines are actually relevant. If you actually look at a map of that messy-bordered Milwaukee/West Allis area, you'll see that it's basically continuously built up and the city line doesn't actually correspond to anything.

[lfromnj]

I mean yes people choose to live in those suburbs because they don't want to live in Milwaukee?

[SevenEleven]

I mean yes people choose to live in those suburbs because they don't want to live in Milwaukee?

If they didn't want to live in Milwaukee they could move somewhere that isn't Milwaukee, lol.

[lfromnj]

If they didnt want to live in Cinci they can move somewhere else
See #fairmaps guys, I can do it too !.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

I get your point but I want to make it clear that my proposal was genuinely done in good faith, and it doesn't actually produce better numbers for Dems than a lot of other maps on here. When it comes to Wisconsin, there are four things I try and ensure and then the rest is subjective:

1. Kenosha and Racine belong together, and should be paired with South Milwaukee suburbs.
2. Dane, Green, and Rock make a perfect district and should remain intact except for minor population adjustments.
3. The Fox River Valley should be kept together as best as possible.
4. The Driftless area between Eau Claire, La Crosse, Wisconsin Dells, and the WI-IL-IA tripoint should be kept intact and separate from Madison.