2020 Census and Redistricting Thread: California

[SevenEleven]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

[Greedo punched first]

Will CA-25 be less Republican on the 2022 map?

[SevenEleven]

Will CA-25 be less Republican on the 2022 map?

Assuming a Santa Clarita based district, Doubtful, not that it really matters. The D trend is too strong.

[Greedo punched first]

Will CA-25 be less Republican on the 2022 map?

Assuming a Santa Clarita based district, Doubtful, not that it really matters. The D trend is too strong.

What might the Santa Clarita district be like, similar to the current one?

[SevenEleven]

Will CA-25 be less Republican on the 2022 map?

Assuming a Santa Clarita based district, Doubtful, not that it really matters. The D trend is too strong.

What might the Santa Clarita district be like, similar to the current one?

Either similar to the current one or more heavily Ventura based. Could even dip into the SFV.

[Greedo punched first]

Will CA-25 be less Republican on the 2022 map?

Assuming a Santa Clarita based district, Doubtful, not that it really matters. The D trend is too strong.

What might the Santa Clarita district be like, similar to the current one?

Either similar to the current one or more heavily Ventura based. Could even dip into the SFV.

Did you also say there's a good chance Garden Grove and Cypress will be paired with Huntington Beach in CA-47 similar to this? My CA-44 is the equivalent of CA-47.

[SevenEleven]

Will CA-25 be less Republican on the 2022 map?

Assuming a Santa Clarita based district, Doubtful, not that it really matters. The D trend is too strong.

What might the Santa Clarita district be like, similar to the current one?

Either similar to the current one or more heavily Ventura based. Could even dip into the SFV.

Did you also say there's a good chance Garden Grove and Cypress will be paired with Huntington Beach in CA-47 similar to this? My CA-44 is the equivalent of CA-47.

I suspect Huntington will be paired with Costa Mesa.

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

[Idaho Conservative]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

end democracy?

[SevenEleven]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

[Idaho Conservative]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

even the 538 dem gerrymander has 6 gop seats.  Also, answer my question.  You said the GOP must be eradicated.  Do you want to end democracy?  Yes or no

[SevenEleven]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

even the 538 dem gerrymander has 6 gop seats.  Also, answer my question.  You said the GOP must be eradicated.  Do you want to end democracy?  Yes or no

No.

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

[SevenEleven]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

Orange County can easily be made entirely safe Dem.

[Greedo punched first]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

Orange County can easily be made entirely safe Dem.

Would that be a fair map or not?

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

Orange County can easily be made entirely safe Dem.

Not after the Latino district is made, you can maybe put long beach with western Orange county beaches to take care of that but still got the SE beaches.

[Greedo punched first]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

Orange County can easily be made entirely safe Dem.

Not after the Latino district is made, you can maybe put long beach with western Orange county beaches to take care of that but still got the SE beaches.

Those beaches can be paired with La Jolla to be safe D.

[SevenEleven]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

Orange County can easily be made entirely safe Dem.

Not after the Latino district is made, you can maybe put long beach with western Orange county beaches to take care of that but still got the SE beaches.

Those beaches can be paired with La Jolla to be safe D.

Exactly. You can make California safe 48-3 pretty easily tbh.

[Greedo punched first]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

Orange County can easily be made entirely safe Dem.

Not after the Latino district is made, you can maybe put long beach with western Orange county beaches to take care of that but still got the SE beaches.

Those beaches can be paired with La Jolla to be safe D.

Exactly. You can make California 48-3 pretty easily tbh.

Dana Point-La Jolla is safe D. Where do you think Garden Grove and Cypress will go in 2022? You don't think it will be that crappy uncompact Long Beach district that dilutes the power of Long Beach Latinos and OC Democrats, do you?

[SevenEleven]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

Orange County can easily be made entirely safe Dem.

Not after the Latino district is made, you can maybe put long beach with western Orange county beaches to take care of that but still got the SE beaches.

Those beaches can be paired with La Jolla to be safe D.

Exactly. You can make California 48-3 pretty easily tbh.

Dana Point-La Jolla is safe D. Where do you think Garden Grove and Cypress will go in 2022? You don't think it will be that crappy uncompact Long Beach district that dilutes the power of Long Beach Latinos and OC Democrats, do you?

No, it'll go with either Norwalk or Fullerton.

[Greedo punched first]

https://twitter.com/udrawthelines/status/1291822482941329408

Final 6 are chosen.

Huge win for the good guys!

Woo are the "good guys"

Democrats, obviously.

ok so you admit yoou don't even want Cali to have nonpartisan maps

I don't want any state to have non-partisan maps. I think Republicans need eradicated. That has nothing to do with the maps I've drawn, however. My map will probably be more favorable to the GOP than the final map for CA.

Pls tell me how the final map can be more unfavorable than your map?
I think u had 4 districts. Cant cut mccarthy or your calvert hunter double bunks. I guess you could cut ca 1 due to pop loss arguably but even then ca 4s is the fastest growing district and those 2 seats dont have any vra seat excuses.

My map has a decent number of swing seats. A good gerrymander will be 47-5 or 48-4, and solidly so.

Well some of them are in orange county which has to have a few swing seats. Outside of that you split Sacramento to cancel the Sacramento swingish seat. I think one of your CV districts is swingish but a gerrymander wouldn't be able to fix that as they would have to baconstrip from some other area. Show me which swing seats a D gerrymander would attempt to eliminate.

Orange County can easily be made entirely safe Dem.

Not after the Latino district is made, you can maybe put long beach with western Orange county beaches to take care of that but still got the SE beaches.

Those beaches can be paired with La Jolla to be safe D.

Exactly. You can make California 48-3 pretty easily tbh.

Dana Point-La Jolla is safe D. Where do you think Garden Grove and Cypress will go in 2022? You don't think it will be that crappy uncompact Long Beach district that dilutes the power of Long Beach Latinos and OC Democrats, do you?

No, it'll go with either Norwalk or Fullerton.

Garden Grove-Norwalk doesn't make sense. Garden Grove-Buena Park-Fullerton makes sense for Asian representation. Would Garden Grove-Huntington Beach make sense too? I did it for compactness and clean lines of the end cities, which are kept whole. Malibu-Palos Verdes on the current map doesn't make sense. Might Malibu go with Thousand Oaks?

[Idaho Conservative]

not possible to make OC all safe D.  You can make all Clinton seats, but a Romney seat could go red post Trump in a midterm, and Romney won OC.  Also, the Latino seat packs Dems.  Without a baconmander, there needs to be 2-3 red or competitive seats in OC.  The swing seats can lean D, but all safe is is out of the question

[Greedo punched first]

not possible to make OC all safe D.  You can make all Clinton seats, but a Romney seat could go red post Trump in a midterm, and Romney won OC.  Also, the Latino seat packs Dems.  Without a baconmander, there needs to be 2-3 red or competitive seats in OC.  The swing seats can lean D, but all safe is is out of the question

CA-39 (Hacienda Heights-Whittier-Norwalk-Fullerton). CA-45 (Irvine-Orange-Fullerton-whiter Santa Ana Neighborhoods) CA-47 (Long Beach-Buena Park), CA-48 (Costa Mesa-Garden Grove-Irvine-Huntington Beach). CA-46 (Santa Ana VRA). CA-49 (Dana Point-La Jolla).

[Idaho Conservative]

not possible to make OC all safe D.  You can make all Clinton seats, but a Romney seat could go red post Trump in a midterm, and Romney won OC.  Also, the Latino seat packs Dems.  Without a baconmander, there needs to be 2-3 red or competitive seats in OC.  The swing seats can lean D, but all safe is is out of the question

CA-39 (Hacienda Heights-Whittier-Norwalk-Fullerton). CA-45 (Irvine-Orange-Fullerton-whiter Santa Ana Neighborhoods) CA-47 (Long Beach-Buena Park), CA-48 (Costa Mesa-Garden Grove-Irvine-Huntington Beach). CA-46 (Santa Ana VRA). CA-49 (Dana Point-La Jolla).

Irvine to Whittier is a baconmander, and the Huntington one might not be safe

[Greedo punched first]

not possible to make OC all safe D.  You can make all Clinton seats, but a Romney seat could go red post Trump in a midterm, and Romney won OC.  Also, the Latino seat packs Dems.  Without a baconmander, there needs to be 2-3 red or competitive seats in OC.  The swing seats can lean D, but all safe is is out of the question

CA-39 (Hacienda Heights-Whittier-Norwalk-Fullerton). CA-45 (Irvine-Orange-Fullerton-whiter Santa Ana Neighborhoods) CA-47 (Long Beach-Buena Park), CA-48 (Costa Mesa-Garden Grove-Irvine-Huntington Beach). CA-46 (Santa Ana VRA). CA-49 (Dana Point-La Jolla).

Irvine to Whittier is a baconmander, and the Huntington one might not be safe

I didn't say "Whittier", I said "whiter Santa Ana neighborhoods" (this means plurality-Hispanic, plurality-white, and majority-white precincts in Santa Ana; these are mostly near the Santa Ana-Orange boundaries). It's easy to gerrymander Orange County to make every district safe D without drawing bacon strips.