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« Reply #1200 on: August 12, 2020, 04:15:38 PM »

The Emerald Coast should not be connected to Shasta, Butte or anything East of that. Also El Dorado should be with Placer.

I can't oblige the former, but I can do the latter.
You also have the bulk of exurban Sacremento in one seat now.
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« Reply #1201 on: August 12, 2020, 04:26:26 PM »

option 2 looks better to me. Bacon-stripping northern California like that is kind of unideal.
It's not bacon stripping it's taking the Lake Tahoe Alpine area and extending it North on the other side of the mountains and it keeps all those counties whole.
The split of Amador is ugly. There shouldn't be a narrow connection from Amador to Sacramento. That is uncompact. My Huntington Beach and Orange County VRA are compact.


Huntington Beach should be with Newport Beach
Where do you put Garden Grove? You don't put it with Long Beach, do you? That would pack demographically different OC Democrats into an LA County district.
I put it with Cerritos and Buena Park
Garden Grove-Buena Park-Cerritos is a decent Asian district. What are your Fresno and Bakersfield districts like?
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« Reply #1202 on: August 12, 2020, 04:51:13 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2020, 04:54:45 PM by Southern Archivist Punxsutawney Phil »

I think I'm switching to a 51 seat map. I don't need to make another 52-seat map.
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« Reply #1203 on: August 12, 2020, 05:30:39 PM »

The Emerald Coast should not be connected to Shasta, Butte or anything East of that. Also El Dorado should be with Placer.

I can't oblige the former, but I can do the latter.
You also have the bulk of exurban Sacremento in one seat now.
I don't really like the double county entrance of Sutter. I also don't think Chico belongs with Napa.
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« Reply #1204 on: August 12, 2020, 05:45:12 PM »

The Emerald Coast should not be connected to Shasta, Butte or anything East of that. Also El Dorado should be with Placer.

I can't oblige the former, but I can do the latter.
You also have the bulk of exurban Sacremento in one seat now.
I don't really like the double county entrance of Sutter. I also don't think Chico belongs with Napa.
Would it be preferable to break up my current exurban Sacremento seat? One un-ideal district is quite possibly good to have if it means the seats around them are sufficiently better compared to if that was not the case. It's not as though the current CA-03 isn't already a leftovers district anyway...
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« Reply #1205 on: August 12, 2020, 05:53:22 PM »

The Emerald Coast should not be connected to Shasta, Butte or anything East of that. Also El Dorado should be with Placer.

I can't oblige the former, but I can do the latter.
You also have the bulk of exurban Sacremento in one seat now.
I don't really like the double county entrance of Sutter. I also don't think Chico belongs with Napa.
Would it be preferable to break up my current exurban Sacremento seat? One un-ideal district is quite possibly good to have if it means the seats around them are sufficiently better compared to if that was not the case. It's not as though the current CA-03 isn't already a leftovers district anyway...
Yes. It would be better to break it up. Garamendi's district isn't viable anymore.
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« Reply #1206 on: August 12, 2020, 05:57:13 PM »

The Emerald Coast should not be connected to Shasta, Butte or anything East of that. Also El Dorado should be with Placer.

I can't oblige the former, but I can do the latter.
You also have the bulk of exurban Sacremento in one seat now.
I don't really like the double county entrance of Sutter. I also don't think Chico belongs with Napa.
Would it be preferable to break up my current exurban Sacremento seat? One un-ideal district is quite possibly good to have if it means the seats around them are sufficiently better compared to if that was not the case. It's not as though the current CA-03 isn't already a leftovers district anyway...
Yes. It would be better to break it up. Garamendi's district isn't viable anymore.
I suppose then you can place all of Butte County in the red district while making up for it with the rest of Sutter and as much of Placer as is needed.
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« Reply #1207 on: August 12, 2020, 06:00:26 PM »

The Emerald Coast should not be connected to Shasta, Butte or anything East of that. Also El Dorado should be with Placer.
I can't oblige the former, but I can do the latter.
You also have the bulk of exurban Sacremento in one seat now.
I don't really like the double county entrance of Sutter. I also don't think Chico belongs with Napa.
Would it be preferable to break up my current exurban Sacremento seat? One un-ideal district is quite possibly good to have if it means the seats around them are sufficiently better compared to if that was not the case. It's not as though the current CA-03 isn't already a leftovers district anyway...
Yes. It would be better to break it up. Garamendi's district isn't viable anymore.
I suppose then you can place all of Butte County in the red district while making up for it with the rest of Sutter and as much of Placer as is needed.
Maybe. What would that look like?
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« Reply #1208 on: August 12, 2020, 06:14:18 PM »

The Emerald Coast should not be connected to Shasta, Butte or anything East of that. Also El Dorado should be with Placer.
I can't oblige the former, but I can do the latter.
You also have the bulk of exurban Sacremento in one seat now.
I don't really like the double county entrance of Sutter. I also don't think Chico belongs with Napa.
Would it be preferable to break up my current exurban Sacremento seat? One un-ideal district is quite possibly good to have if it means the seats around them are sufficiently better compared to if that was not the case. It's not as though the current CA-03 isn't already a leftovers district anyway...
Yes. It would be better to break it up. Garamendi's district isn't viable anymore.
I suppose then you can place all of Butte County in the red district while making up for it with the rest of Sutter and as much of Placer as is needed.
Maybe. What would that look like?

This, pretty much.
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« Reply #1209 on: August 12, 2020, 06:22:03 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2020, 06:55:07 PM by ERM64man »

I wouldn't split Butte. Garamendi's district needs to be dismantled for a clean map. It would be fine because he's older than dirt. Thompson, LaMalfa, and maybe Bera should take in the parts of the eliminated CA-03. The Emerald Coast should be with Napa or a completely new district. Garamendi and Lowenthal have the easiest districts to dismantle or move. I dismantled Garamendi's and moved Lowenthal's into Orange County entirely.


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« Reply #1210 on: August 12, 2020, 06:32:56 PM »

Here's an out-of-the-box idea.
The Marin-Sonoma CD takes in Napa and then these areas get shifted into the Emerald Coast CD.
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« Reply #1211 on: August 12, 2020, 06:41:38 PM »

Here's an out-of-the-box idea.
The Marin-Sonoma CD takes in Napa and then these areas get shifted into the Emerald Coast CD.
What would that look like?
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« Reply #1212 on: August 12, 2020, 06:52:56 PM »

Here's an out-of-the-box idea.
The Marin-Sonoma CD takes in Napa and then these areas get shifted into the Emerald Coast CD.
What would that look like?
The pivotal question becomes what do with Trinity County. You could do this.
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« Reply #1213 on: August 12, 2020, 06:58:03 PM »

Here's an out-of-the-box idea.
The Marin-Sonoma CD takes in Napa and then these areas get shifted into the Emerald Coast CD.
What would that look like?
The pivotal question becomes what do with Trinity County. You could do this.

Who represents the Emerald Coast? Who represents Butte? I thought Trinity would go with Shasta.
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« Reply #1214 on: August 12, 2020, 06:59:38 PM »

Here's an out-of-the-box idea.
The Marin-Sonoma CD takes in Napa and then these areas get shifted into the Emerald Coast CD.
What would that look like?
The pivotal question becomes what do with Trinity County. You could do this.

Who represents the Emerald Coast? Who represents Butte?
They are in separate districts on this. Everything north of Butte County is in the 1st together with some heavily Dem areas along the coast.
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« Reply #1215 on: August 12, 2020, 07:00:41 PM »

Here's an out-of-the-box idea.
The Marin-Sonoma CD takes in Napa and then these areas get shifted into the Emerald Coast CD.
What would that look like?
The pivotal question becomes what do with Trinity County. You could do this.

Who represents the Emerald Coast? Who represents Butte?
They are in separate districts on this. Everything north of Butte County is in the 1st together with some heavily Dem areas along the coast.
Who represents the blue district? Who represents the red one?
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« Reply #1216 on: August 12, 2020, 07:05:09 PM »

Here's an out-of-the-box idea.
The Marin-Sonoma CD takes in Napa and then these areas get shifted into the Emerald Coast CD.
What would that look like?
The pivotal question becomes what do with Trinity County. You could do this.

Who represents the Emerald Coast? Who represents Butte?
They are in separate districts on this. Everything north of Butte County is in the 1st together with some heavily Dem areas along the coast.
Who represents the blue district? Who represents the red one?
I think LaMalfa lives in the 1st on this map but he'd not necessarily run there. Garamendi meanwhile is thrown in the Stockton district but would very likely move. Not sure about Huffman.
EDIT: turns out no incumbent resides in this 1st district. LaMalfa is in Oroville which is in Butte County.
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« Reply #1217 on: August 12, 2020, 07:08:01 PM »

Here's an out-of-the-box idea.
The Marin-Sonoma CD takes in Napa and then these areas get shifted into the Emerald Coast CD.
What would that look like?
The pivotal question becomes what do with Trinity County. You could do this.
Who represents the Emerald Coast? Who represents Butte?
They are in separate districts on this. Everything north of Butte County is in the 1st together with some heavily Dem areas along the coast.
Who represents the blue district? Who represents the red one?
I think LaMalfa lives in the 1st on this map but he'd not necessarily run there. Garamendi meanwhile is thrown in the Stockton district but would very likely move. Not sure about Huffman.
Huffman and Thompson are double bunked in the green one. Huffman in Marin and Thompson in Napa. Wouldn't Garamendi just retire? LaMalfa lives in the red one in Butte County.
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« Reply #1218 on: August 12, 2020, 07:08:21 PM »


This is what happens when Trinity County goes in with the Emerald Triangle.
I like this better.
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« Reply #1219 on: August 12, 2020, 07:09:11 PM »


This is what happens when Trinity County goes in with the Emerald Triangle.

Trinity shouldn't be with Humboldt and Mendocino.
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« Reply #1220 on: August 12, 2020, 07:11:51 PM »


This is what happens when Trinity County goes in with the Emerald Triangle.

Trinity shouldn't be with Humboldt and Mendocino.
This arrangement is more compact though.
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« Reply #1221 on: August 12, 2020, 07:14:54 PM »

I don't see much of a point in splitting Amador.
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« Reply #1222 on: August 12, 2020, 07:16:40 PM »

I don't see much of a point in splitting Amador.
The Placer CD was about 8k short population-wise. That being said I could delete that split.
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« Reply #1223 on: August 12, 2020, 07:22:43 PM »

Update: Amador is now whole. Switched a few precincts in Yuba.
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« Reply #1224 on: August 12, 2020, 07:22:43 PM »

I don't see much of a point in splitting Amador.
The Placer CD was about 8k short population-wise. That being said I could delete that split.
I think a different map might help. Trinity can go with the Emerald Coast, but I thhink Napa shouldn't go with Marin
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