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« Reply #1175 on: August 08, 2020, 08:29:13 PM »

I made three Emerald Coast maps. Which one do you like the best?

Left: CA-01, open
Center: CA-01, Doug LaMalfa
Right: CA-01, Mike Thompson


Don稚 really like any of them to be honest
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« Reply #1176 on: August 08, 2020, 08:49:44 PM »

I made three Emerald Coast maps. Which one do you like the best?

Left: CA-01, open
Center: CA-01, Doug LaMalfa
Right: CA-01, Mike Thompson


Don稚 really like any of them to be honest
But you separate Del Norte from Humboldt just because they vote differently. They should always go together. My map on the right is pretty traditional.
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« Reply #1177 on: August 08, 2020, 09:06:03 PM »

I made three Emerald Coast maps. Which one do you like the best?

Left: CA-01, open
Center: CA-01, Doug LaMalfa
Right: CA-01, Mike Thompson


Don稚 really like any of them to be honest
But you separate Del Norte from Humboldt just because they vote differently. They should always go together. My map on the right is pretty traditional.
No I didn稚 go back and look at my most recent one I moved Del Norte back with Humboldt
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« Reply #1178 on: August 08, 2020, 09:09:18 PM »

I made three Emerald Coast maps. Which one do you like the best?

Left: CA-01, open
Center: CA-01, Doug LaMalfa
Right: CA-01, Mike Thompson


Don稚 really like any of them to be honest
But you separate Del Norte from Humboldt just because they vote differently. They should always go together. My map on the right is pretty traditional.
No I didn稚 go back and look at my most recent one I moved Del Norte back with Humboldt
Where did you put Inyo and Mono? They need to go together with either Victorville or Bakersfield.
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« Reply #1179 on: August 09, 2020, 02:12:13 AM »

Left or right. No reason to split Humboldt and Mendocino.
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« Reply #1180 on: August 09, 2020, 08:02:22 AM »

Left or right. No reason to split Humboldt and Mendocino.
Is the one on the left or right better? Left is more compact, but right is more traditional.
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« Reply #1181 on: August 10, 2020, 02:48:24 PM »

I made three Emerald Coast maps. Which one do you like the best?

Left: CA-01, open
Center: CA-01, Doug LaMalfa
Right: CA-01, Mike Thompson


Don稚 really like any of them to be honest
But you separate Del Norte from Humboldt just because they vote differently. They should always go together. My map on the right is pretty traditional.
No I didn稚 go back and look at my most recent one I moved Del Norte back with Humboldt
Where did you put Inyo and Mono? They need to go together with either Victorville or Bakersfield.
I put them with San Bernardino County like the current 8th is. Going back to the previous question it makes sense to do CA-2 with Del Norte, Mendocino, Humboldt and then part of Sonoma and Lake. Ideally with the current numbers you can make a district with all of Del Norte, Mendocino, Humboldt and Sonoma, but then you would need to have Marin county connect with Contra Costa and I don't really think those should go together. Really the 2nd district should not go that far inland in your case what you have labelled the 1st.
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« Reply #1182 on: August 10, 2020, 04:58:08 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2020, 08:08:14 PM by ERM64man »

This configuration is more traditional. I don't want to connect Marin and Contra Costa. Maybe CA-01 shouldn't go this far inland ideally, but Garamendi's district is the easiest to eliminate in NorCal. My CA-01 is very similar to many other Atlasian maps of that district. My CA-03 (CA-04 equivalent) fits very well with my CA-22 (CA-23 equivalent). Are compact double digit Clinton districts sufficient for the two Central Valley VRAs?

Central Valley Hispanic districts:
CA-18 (access), Clinton +8
CA-19 (VRA), Fresno: Clinton +13
CA-20 (VRA), Bakersfield: Clinton +13

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« Reply #1183 on: August 11, 2020, 01:10:24 AM »

This configuration is more traditional. I don't want to connect Marin and Contra Costa. Maybe CA-01 shouldn't go this far inland ideally, but Garamendi's district is the easiest to eliminate in NorCal. My CA-01 is very similar to many other Atlasian maps of that district. My CA-03 (CA-04 equivalent) fits very well with my CA-22 (CA-23 equivalent). Are compact double digit Clinton districts sufficient for the two Central Valley VRAs?

Central Valley VRA districts:
CA-19, Fresno: Clinton +11
CA-20, Bakersfield: Clinton +13



Really like your take on NorCal so far. Marin + and the remainder of Sonoma county will be the perfect size for another district too.
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« Reply #1184 on: August 11, 2020, 09:44:49 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2020, 08:06:26 PM by ERM64man »

My Emerald Coast, eastern Sierra Nevada, and Jefferson districts, work with my Central Valley and Marin County. I got compact Latino Clinton +13 districts in Fresno and Bakersfield (CA-19 and CA-20) and a compact Clinton +8 Fresno Latino access district (CA-18). In San Diego, I did the VRA and Escondido, which are both compact. Any idea on who might take the open seat in CA-49?



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« Reply #1185 on: August 11, 2020, 10:18:16 PM »

This configuration is more traditional. I don't want to connect Marin and Contra Costa. Maybe CA-01 shouldn't go this far inland ideally, but Garamendi's district is the easiest to eliminate in NorCal. My CA-01 is very similar to many other Atlasian maps of that district. My CA-03 (CA-04 equivalent) fits very well with my CA-22 (CA-23 equivalent). Are compact double digit Clinton districts sufficient for the two Central Valley VRAs?

Central Valley Hispanic districts:
CA-18 (access), Clinton +7
CA-19 (VRA), Fresno: Clinton +13
CA-20 (VRA), Bakersfield: Clinton +13


I took a closer look at my NorCal districts and came up with these two options.
Option 1:


Option 2:


Option 1 is a take on the old 52 district map and I think it goes together well and either way Glenn and Colusa should go with Tehama and Shasta.
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« Reply #1186 on: August 11, 2020, 10:32:30 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2020, 01:27:24 PM by ERM64man »

This configuration is more traditional. I don't want to connect Marin and Contra Costa. Maybe CA-01 shouldn't go this far inland ideally, but Garamendi's district is the easiest to eliminate in NorCal. My CA-01 is very similar to many other Atlasian maps of that district. My CA-03 (CA-04 equivalent) fits very well with my CA-22 (CA-23 equivalent). Are compact double digit Clinton districts sufficient for the two Central Valley VRAs?

Central Valley Hispanic districts:
CA-18 (access), Clinton +8
CA-19 (VRA), Fresno: Clinton +13
CA-20 (VRA), Bakersfield: Clinton +13
I took a closer look at my NorCal districts and came up with these two options.
Option 1:


Option 2:


Option 1 is a take on the old 52 district map and I think it goes together well and either way Glenn and Colusa should go with Tehama and Shasta.
How did you draw them? That looks interesting.
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« Reply #1187 on: August 12, 2020, 05:25:39 AM »

option 2 looks better to me. Bacon-stripping northern California like that is kind of unideal.
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« Reply #1188 on: August 12, 2020, 07:24:50 AM »


thoughts on this arrangement?
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« Reply #1189 on: August 12, 2020, 08:17:52 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2020, 01:52:06 PM by ERM64man »

Mendocino needs to go with Humboldt. The Emerald Coast needs to be kept together.
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« Reply #1190 on: August 12, 2020, 02:51:35 PM »

option 2 looks better to me. Bacon-stripping northern California like that is kind of unideal.
It's not bacon stripping it's taking the Lake Tahoe Alpine area and extending it North on the other side of the mountains and it keeps all those counties whole.
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« Reply #1191 on: August 12, 2020, 02:59:52 PM »

This configuration is more traditional. I don't want to connect Marin and Contra Costa. Maybe CA-01 shouldn't go this far inland ideally, but Garamendi's district is the easiest to eliminate in NorCal. My CA-01 is very similar to many other Atlasian maps of that district. My CA-03 (CA-04 equivalent) fits very well with my CA-22 (CA-23 equivalent). Are compact double digit Clinton districts sufficient for the two Central Valley VRAs?

Central Valley Hispanic districts:
CA-18 (access), Clinton +7
CA-19 (VRA), Fresno: Clinton +13
CA-20 (VRA), Bakersfield: Clinton +13


I took a closer look at my NorCal districts and came up with these two options.
Option 1:


Option 2:


Option 1 is a take on the old 52 district map and I think it goes together well and either way Glenn and Colusa should go with Tehama and Shasta.

Option 2 is pretty close to ideal IMO.
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« Reply #1192 on: August 12, 2020, 03:00:20 PM »

This configuration is more traditional. I don't want to connect Marin and Contra Costa. Maybe CA-01 shouldn't go this far inland ideally, but Garamendi's district is the easiest to eliminate in NorCal. My CA-01 is very similar to many other Atlasian maps of that district. My CA-03 (CA-04 equivalent) fits very well with my CA-22 (CA-23 equivalent). Are compact double digit Clinton districts sufficient for the two Central Valley VRAs?

Central Valley Hispanic districts:
CA-18 (access), Clinton +8
CA-19 (VRA), Fresno: Clinton +13
CA-20 (VRA), Bakersfield: Clinton +13
I took a closer look at my NorCal districts and came up with these two options.
Option 1:


Option 2:


Option 1 is a take on the old 52 district map and I think it goes together well and either way Glenn and Colusa should go with Tehama and Shasta.
How did you draw them? That looks interesting.
The idea was to make a Lake Tahoe centered district with El Dorado, Placer and Nevada while making another that took in Shasta Trinity and Butte that surrounds the North I-5 corridor.
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« Reply #1193 on: August 12, 2020, 03:03:11 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2020, 03:09:52 PM by ERM64man »

option 2 looks better to me. Bacon-stripping northern California like that is kind of unideal.
It's not bacon stripping it's taking the Lake Tahoe Alpine area and extending it North on the other side of the mountains and it keeps all those counties whole.
The split of Amador is ugly. There shouldn't be a narrow connection from Amador to Sacramento. That is uncompact. My Huntington Beach and Orange County VRA are compact.

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« Reply #1194 on: August 12, 2020, 03:22:28 PM »

option 2 looks better to me. Bacon-stripping northern California like that is kind of unideal.
It's not bacon stripping it's taking the Lake Tahoe Alpine area and extending it North on the other side of the mountains and it keeps all those counties whole.
The split of Amador is ugly. There shouldn't be a narrow connection from Amador to Sacramento. That is uncompact. My Huntington Beach and Orange County VRA are compact.


Huntington Beach should be with Newport Beach
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« Reply #1195 on: August 12, 2020, 03:31:02 PM »

option 2 looks better to me. Bacon-stripping northern California like that is kind of unideal.
It's not bacon stripping it's taking the Lake Tahoe Alpine area and extending it North on the other side of the mountains and it keeps all those counties whole.
The split of Amador is ugly. There shouldn't be a narrow connection from Amador to Sacramento. That is uncompact. My Huntington Beach and Orange County VRA are compact.


Huntington Beach should be with Newport Beach
Where do you put Garden Grove? You don't put it with Long Beach, do you? That would pack demographically different OC Democrats into an LA County district.
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« Reply #1196 on: August 12, 2020, 03:52:10 PM »


revised northern california
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« Reply #1197 on: August 12, 2020, 03:54:02 PM »

The Emerald Coast should not be connected to Shasta, Butte or anything East of that. Also El Dorado should be with Placer.
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« Reply #1198 on: August 12, 2020, 03:57:02 PM »

option 2 looks better to me. Bacon-stripping northern California like that is kind of unideal.
It's not bacon stripping it's taking the Lake Tahoe Alpine area and extending it North on the other side of the mountains and it keeps all those counties whole.
The split of Amador is ugly. There shouldn't be a narrow connection from Amador to Sacramento. That is uncompact. My Huntington Beach and Orange County VRA are compact.


Huntington Beach should be with Newport Beach
Where do you put Garden Grove? You don't put it with Long Beach, do you? That would pack demographically different OC Democrats into an LA County district.
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« Reply #1199 on: August 12, 2020, 04:07:23 PM »

option 2 looks better to me. Bacon-stripping northern California like that is kind of unideal.
It's not bacon stripping it's taking the Lake Tahoe Alpine area and extending it North on the other side of the mountains and it keeps all those counties whole.
The split of Amador is ugly. There shouldn't be a narrow connection from Amador to Sacramento. That is uncompact. My Huntington Beach and Orange County VRA are compact.


Huntington Beach should be with Newport Beach
Where do you put Garden Grove? You don't put it with Long Beach, do you? That would pack demographically different OC Democrats into an LA County district.
I put it with Cerritos and Buena Park
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