Should AR Dems have drawn this map in 2010 instead of what they drew?
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« on: May 10, 2020, 08:49:43 PM »
« edited: May 10, 2020, 09:02:00 PM by #Solid4096 »



This map has 2 Dem seats:

District 1: Mike Ross would likely have no trouble holding this, though Dems would need him to stay for this to work; he won this District by over 6 points when he ran for Governor in 2014, and its less Republican by 2016 Presidential numbers than his 2000s District was by 2008 Presidential numbers, where he landslided to a win even in the 2010 Republican wave.

District 2: The only Republican to win this District at the Presidential level in a generation was Mitt Romney, and even he only barely did so; someone like Pat Hayes would likely be able to hold this District rather easily this decade.
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2020, 08:58:20 PM »

What are the PVIs of the two dem seats? And the PVIs of the two R CDs?
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2020, 09:02:55 PM »

What are the PVIs of the two dem seats? And the PVIs of the two R CDs?
Feel free to check it out for yourself with this link
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2020, 02:59:59 AM »

It doesn't really matter. Their incumbents had already been washed out.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2020, 01:38:08 PM »

That map wouldn't be anywhere near legal under Arkansas law which has some pretty strict restrictionson splitting counties.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2020, 02:36:48 PM »

That map wouldn't be anywhere near legal under Arkansas law which has some pretty strict restrictionson splitting counties.

according to this, there are no such limits in Congressional Redistricting in the state.
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2020, 03:04:31 PM »

Pulaski, Jefferson, Lincoln, Desha, Chicot, Philips, Lee, Saint Francis, and Crittenden; and Mississippi, Lincoln, and Lonoke County. The last three are to connect the two Democratic area and get it up over 720,000. That’s the only way to guarantee a Democratic House seat in Arkansas, to connect Pulaski and Jefferson with the eastern counties.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2020, 04:59:42 PM »

Pulaski, Jefferson, Lincoln, Desha, Chicot, Philips, Lee, Saint Francis, and Crittenden; and Mississippi, Lincoln, and Lonoke County. The last three are to connect the two Democratic area and get it up over 720,000. That’s the only way to guarantee a Democratic House seat in Arkansas, to connect Pulaski and Jefferson with the eastern counties.
Your idea is something that works for 1 Democratic seat.
In my map however, there are not 1 but 2 seats that Democrats would win were they to play their cards right.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2020, 05:02:48 PM »

Arkansas Dems bet on Dixiecrats sticking around. Their bet failed, and they could have drawn a Dem seat that would have lasted all 10 years.

However, plenty of other Southern Republicans also bet on the Dixiecrats returning in some capacity and ended up self-gerrymandering themselves. Hypothetically trading TN05, GA02 (not required by VRA in 2010), and plenty of lower chamber seats for AR02 is not something worthwhile.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2020, 05:16:31 PM »

Arkansas Dems bet on Dixiecrats sticking around. Their bet failed, and they could have drawn a Dem seat that would have lasted all 10 years.

However, plenty of other Southern Republicans also bet on the Dixiecrats returning in some capacity and ended up self-gerrymandering themselves. Hypothetically trading TN05, GA02 (not required by VRA in 2010), and plenty of lower chamber seats for AR02 is not something worthwhile.

They could have drawn 2 Dem seats as well, as it is with my map.
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