Do you think the WI electorate look more like MN without gerrymandering and voter suppression
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Scottholes 2.0
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« on: May 03, 2020, 06:50:29 PM »

I feel like WI would look more like MN without voter suppression because Milwaukee has a lot of Democratic voters. (As evidenced by the loss of 40k voters [the vast majority being democrats] in Milwaukee County and the fact that AA voters in Milwaukee turned in big for Obama in both 2008 and 2012 and are critical to statewide presidential elections.) I'm not sure how gerrymandering would affect statewide elections, however. What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2020, 09:42:22 PM »

Minneapolis (the whole region) seems slightly closer to a major metro area in terms of population and culture than Milwaukee so it seems like it would always vote slightly more to the left of Wisconsin.  Similar to how Seattle is a bigger metro area than Portland so Washington always votes slightly to the left of Oregon.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 08:37:22 AM »

The major difference between the two is the twin cities' suburbs vote dem,  Milwaukee's suburbs don't.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2020, 01:07:27 PM »

No, the western half of WI is very similar to MN, especially west of Eau Claire. However, eastern WI (especially Milwaukee/suburbs) is very much rust belt unlike MN. The only remotely rust belt part of MN is Duluth/Iron Range but it made a somewhat successful transition from resource extraction to tourism, which WI didn't really outside of some small pockets like Door County.

There is also no real MN analog to Milwaukee - the twin cities are a diverse economy with food processing, tech/biotech, and more modern manufacturing, while Milwaukee is still rust belt and traditional manufacturing with change much slower than MN. Both sectors happened to vote the same way pre-Hillary, but that doesn't need to be.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 11:26:08 PM »

It wouldn't totally vote exactly like MN, but it would definitely take less work for a Dem to win than it does now.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2020, 07:05:37 AM »

I feel like WI would look more like MN without voter suppression because Milwaukee has a lot of Democratic voters. (As evidenced by the loss of 40k voters [the vast majority being democrats] in Milwaukee County and the fact that AA voters in Milwaukee turned in big for Obama in both 2008 and 2012 and are critical to statewide presidential elections.) I'm not sure how gerrymandering would affect statewide elections, however. What do you guys think?

Hillary erroneously claimed that "voter suppression" cost her 200K votes in Milwaukee, which Snopes debunked.
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