Penalty for getting an abortion

[A18]

Vote

[Ebowed]

Jail time, the length depending on the purpose of the abortion

[nclib]

Should be legal.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

legal

[Jake]

Death by whatever method they murdered the child by.

[Bdub]

Should be legal (First trimester only).

[opebo]

Jail time, the length depending on the purpose of the abortion

Freedom-hater.

[MasterJedi]

Jail time (Though abortion should be legal in cases or rape/incest and if the mother's life is in danger).

[Gabu]

Should be legal (First trimester only).

^^^

[J. J.]

I'm going to take this question and extend the analogy.  The woman is 8 1/2 pregnant and going to deliver in two weeks.  She has no health problems and the baby (at 8 1/2 months it is a baby) has no health problems.  It was not a case of rape or incest.  Is anyone out there, other than Opebo, really saying that this should be legal?  Would it be legal if she waited a week until after birth?

[nclib]

Do you honestly believe that happens that often? If a woman wanted an abortion, why would she wait until she was 8 1/2 months pregnant?

[A18]

I'm glad you have no problem with banning it then.

[Frodo]

Jail-time for getting an abortion after the first trimester -probably no more than a couple years at most, with early release based on either bail or good behavior. 

[© tweed]

It should be legal within 90 days of conception.

After that, community service for first infraction, then a fine and community service for second, and community service/jail time for third.  Throwing black women in jail isn't the answer here, especially if they have families to tend to at home.

[afleitch]

Legal. In the first trimester and under the consent of two doctors.

[Ebowed]

Do you honestly believe that happens that often? If a woman wanted an abortion, why would she wait until she was 8 1/2 months pregnant?

OK, so why not ban it?

[TheresNoMoney]

OK, so why not ban it?

Don't the states already have the authority to ban late-term abortions (as long as there is an exception for life of mother)?

[Ebowed]

OK, so why not ban it?

Don't the states already have the authority to ban late-term abortions (as long as there is an exception for life of mother)?

Yes, almost every state has a ban on third trimester abortions.  But some states (New York, New Jersey, Washington, Hawaii, couple others) don't and I get the feeling that nclib would oppose introducing these bans because third trimester abortions don't happen often.  If they don't happen often, that makes it that easier to ban them.

That said, the bans are effectively useless since they have to contain an exception for the health of the mother, which is a fairly broad term in reference to abortion.

[TheresNoMoney]

Yes, almost every state has a ban on third trimester abortions.

So what's the problem? You want a federal ban as well? I thought this country has "abortion on demand", yet most states have a ban on third-trimester abortions?? Who's been lying to us all this time?

That said, the bans are effectively useless since they have to contain an exception for the health of the mother, which is a fairly broad term in reference to abortion.

You'd rather have no exception for life of the mother? That's sick.

[Ebowed]

Yes, almost every state has a ban on third trimester abortions.

So what's the problem? You want a federal ban as well? I thought this country has "abortion on demand", yet most states have a ban on third-trimester abortions?? Who's been lying to us all this time?

That said, the bans are effectively useless since they have to contain an exception for the health of the mother, which is a fairly broad term in reference to abortion.

You'd rather have no exception for life of the mother? That's sick.

I said health of the mother, not life of the mother.
 
The late term abortion bans are useless because any woman can just say they have mental trauma or something like that and get the abortion.  However, in some states, it will be hard to find someone to perform them.  Mississippi has only one abortion clinic and it only does up to 22 weeks.  South Dakota has only one clinic as well, which may be shut down soon.  So, we do have abortion on demand in the sense that you can get an abortion for pretty much any reason - but whether you can actually get that abortion depends on the restrictions and availability in your state.

[J. J.]

Do you honestly believe that happens that often? If a woman wanted an abortion, why would she wait until she was 8 1/2 months pregnant?

There are people on the pro choice side who favor that and object to any regulation.  Granted, there are people on the pro-life side who feel that preventing fertilization should be a criminal act, or that abortion should even be illegal if the mother's life is in danger.

I think this is a very complex issue and attempting to state a position without a lot of qualifications is wrong.

Actually, in answer to your question, ardent pro-lifers would say that the woman might be too embarrassed to get one before that time.  People are out there making these arguments.

[Inmate Trump]

I'm against abortion for the same reasons I'm against the death penalty.

I voted jail time.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Have it be legal on demand.

[nclib]

Do you honestly believe that happens that often? If a woman wanted an abortion, why would she wait until she was 8 1/2 months pregnant?

There are people on the pro choice side who favor that and object to any regulation.  Granted, there are people on the pro-life side who feel that preventing fertilization should be a criminal act, or that abortion should even be illegal if the mother's life is in danger.

I think this is a very complex issue and attempting to state a position without a lot of qualifications is wrong.

Actually, in answer to your question, ardent pro-lifers would say that the woman might be too embarrassed to get one before that time.  People are out there making these arguments.

My point was that since unjustified late-term abortions are so rare, banning them would result in banning abortions done for health reasons.

It is clear that the main reason pro-lifers pushed the Partial Birth Abortion Ban was to chip away at abortion rights in general.

[Emsworth]

Abortion should be legal and available on demand for any reason whatsoever, at least during the first two trimesters.