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« on: April 15, 2020, 03:29:41 PM »
« edited: September 16, 2020, 12:36:46 AM by I Was So Wrong »

I am compiling a list of ancestrally Republican Counties that have voted Republican in every election, with the possible exceptions of 1856, 1860, 1912, 1932, 1936, and 1964. (First three due to third parties).
I'll start with New York

New York-
Tioga
Wayne
Livingston
Steuben
Allegany
Orleans
Genessee
Wyoming

Pennsylvania-
Susquehanna
Bradford
Tioga
McKean
Union
Blair (although voted Fillmore in '56)
Butler

Maryland-
Garrett

Ohio-
Geauga
Fulton
Warren
Logan
Champaign
Union
Madison (Although 1876 is suspiciously close)
Fayette
Clinton
Greene
Morgan

Indiana-
Steuben
LaGrange
Kosciusko
Wabash
Jasper
Newton
Benton
Warren
Randolph
Hamilton
Hendricks
Henry
Decatur
Jennings

Wisconsin-
Walworth

Illinois-
Lee
Ogle
Stark
Edwards (voted for Fillmore in '56)
Ford

Iowa-
Grundy
Cass
Montgomery
Mills

South Dakota-
Campbell
Hamlin
Sully
Douglas
Jones
Hyde

Kansas-
Doniphan
Brown
Jackson
Pottawatomie
Riley
Chautauqua
Marion

West Virginia-
Grant

Kentucky-
Jackson (Although voted Bell in '60)
Leslie

North Carolina-
Wilkes
Yadkin
Avery
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2020, 04:19:30 PM »
« Edited: April 15, 2020, 05:27:43 PM by WeAreDoomed »

Right? And Putnam, NY went Dem in 1864, which I had not known!

Anyway, here is Wisconsin-
Walworth

Illinois-
Lee
Ogle
Stark
Edwards
Ford
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2020, 02:07:09 PM »
« Edited: May 19, 2020, 04:45:44 PM by WeAreDoomed »

For North Carolina-
Wilkes
Yadkin
Avery

For Ohio-
Geauga
Fulton
Warren
Logan
Champaign
Union
Madison (Although 1876 is suspiciously close)
Fayette
Clinton
Greene
Morgan
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2020, 03:07:47 PM »

Michigan (based on my original post criteria)
Missaukee
Antrim
Sanilac
Allegan
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2020, 01:45:36 PM »

Going by the criteria in my first post the Pennsylvania counties that would count would be several of the northern ones, Union, and Butler. I did not know that Snyder voted for Buchanan, thanks for the insight Orser.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2020, 03:45:15 PM »

For Indiana, going by criteria in the first post:
Steuben
LaGrange
Kosciusko
Wabash
Jasper
Newton
Benton
Warren
Randolph
Hamilton
Hendricks
Henry
Decatur
Jennings

(I excluded those that might have voted Dem if not for a third party).
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2020, 10:23:01 PM »

Yes, by my criteria I include counties that voted Democrat only in 1912, 1932,36, and/or 64. (From 1856 to 2016).
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2020, 04:13:15 PM »

Iowa: (Using my qualifications from the first post)
Grundy
Cass
Montgomery
Mills
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2020, 04:29:35 PM »

I was about to add those two counties, but then I found out that Mitchell had voted Tilden in 1876. Avery was a part of Mitchell then, so I am unsure if we should add Avery to our list.
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2020, 01:34:31 PM »

South Dakota (following my criteria):
Campbell
Hamlin
Sully
Douglas
Jones
Hyde
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2020, 10:33:18 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2020, 10:45:30 PM by I Was So Wrong »

Updated-
What should I do for counties that voted D in 1856, but then became staunch Republican since 1860? Such as Gasconade, and several other counties in MO. In fact, many counties in KY, TN, and MO actually do not fit the bill under this criteria, although I find it hard to read the old maps since county boundaries have changed much since then, so I know I am missing a few. I could not tell from the map how Owsley County voted in '56 and '60, for example. I know Fremont was not on the ballot in these states in 1856, but I would have thought that those counties would have voted for Fillmore, not Buchanan. (Like Edwards, IL) (For example, I include counties that voted for Bell in 1860).
I do include counties that voted D before 1856, of course.

Does anyone know how Owsley County voted in 1856? Thanks!
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2020, 11:07:13 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2020, 12:02:49 AM by I Was So Wrong »

Here is the map of what I consider to be Historically Republican Counties. I know I must be missing some from Kentucky and Tennessee. I excluded many that most would put on the list. Again, I am excluding many counties from MO, KY, and TN until I get a better reading on their voting in the elections of 1856 and 1860. That does not mean I will not put them on eventually. I excluded counties such as Potter, PA, due to strong liberal third party showings. So this is just a starting map. Anyone notice any areas of interest? I am intrigued by West Central Ohio, I wonder why that area has consistently voted Republican.

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2020, 12:35:37 AM »

Ah, that makes sense, I was wondering why mostNE OH and NW PA counties were not on this list! Unions answer that! And dang you were right about German populations many of these counties marked do have high German populations! Also, I notice that Geugua, OH and Walworth, WI counties voted Free Soil in both 1848 and in 1852.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2020, 12:03:10 AM »

Hmm, sorry about that, does the image display now?
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2020, 07:02:57 PM »
« Edited: September 01, 2020, 08:51:13 PM by I Was So Wrong »

Here we are! Note that I have not yet begun Missouri and most of the south yet, as I am wondering how to handle the 1856 election, which throws a wrench in most of those counties Republican/Whig historical patterns. Also, I left out some northern counties if Democrat+liberal third party vote share reached 50% in an election. So this is a very, very basic map, that should be used as a starting point. (Shoot, disregard Clinton county in Indiana).

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2020, 10:56:30 PM »

Thanks! I'm gonna make two maps, one that includes counties that had Dem+liberal 3rd party over 50% in 1892 or 1924, and one that does not contain those counties. (The map I have so far excludes those, which is why Potter County, PA isn't on the map)
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2020, 12:35:34 AM »

Thanks! I'm gonna make two maps, one that includes counties that had Dem+liberal 3rd party over 50% in 1892 or 1924, and one that does not contain those counties. (The map I have so far excludes those, which is why Potter County, PA isn't on the map)
Thanks for the information! I knew that if La Follette got over 50 percent, the county would be omitted – is that not why Hutchinson County and Turner County in South Dakota are not on the map? (An interesting sidelight is that those two counties were more Democratic than the national average in 1972, the reason of course being a favorite son vote for the overwhelmingly defeated McGovern.)
Yep! And I excluded Southern counties that did not vote for Fillmore or Bell in 1856 and 1860! (For the first map, second map I will include all of them!) I'm giving you co-authorship on this, since you helped me out a ton!
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2020, 12:40:29 AM »
« Edited: September 16, 2020, 12:45:08 AM by I Was So Wrong »

Here it is! Thanks so much for the help, MianFei! Time to get started on the second, more inclusive map! (Which contains most of those southern counties that voted for Buchanan or Breckinridge, eastern counties that were created after 1876, and certain counties with D plus lib. third party over 50% in 1892, 1916, and 1924 elections!)

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2020, 01:01:14 AM »

Wow, I am learning a lot! Thanks so much! I was wondering why those counties were very pro Union! And thanks for the lesson on those Missouri counties, they were confusing me!
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