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« Reply #1200 on: April 11, 2020, 02:38:57 PM »


What does it matter?
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« Reply #1201 on: April 11, 2020, 02:44:30 PM »

Why is the administration so obsessed with hydrochloroquine when there are several other possible drugs out there that seem to have shown more promise with fewer side effects?

Does Trump have any personal financial stake in those other drugs?  

Quite likely. His trusts own considerable amounts of index funds.
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« Reply #1202 on: April 11, 2020, 02:45:27 PM »


Life & death to many f**king people.
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« Reply #1203 on: April 11, 2020, 02:47:13 PM »


Obama was declared an incompetent affirmative action president because two people died of Ebola.
But we should put Trump's face on Mount Rushmore because ONLY 60 thousand are expected to die under his watch.
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« Reply #1204 on: April 11, 2020, 02:50:39 PM »


She would probably be saying that awful covideo was the trigger.
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« Reply #1205 on: April 11, 2020, 02:57:36 PM »


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« Reply #1206 on: April 11, 2020, 03:06:42 PM »


I mean, I only wonder how many states would have already seceded if thrice-impeached President Hillary Clinton’s CDC has told the red state yokels not to go to church on Easter. 

This is a good point.  Many mistakes have been made, but Trump is undoubtedly a better messenger to red state governors (where the formal shutdown power lies) that Clinton and blue states were culturally more likely to support aggressive economic action regardless of what the federal government recommended.  Under a President Clinton, there would be ~15 governors denouncing the federal "conspiracy" and calling for Sweden-style business as usual in their states right now.

If Clinton tried to take matters into her own hands, an inevitable 5/4 or 6/3 (depending on what happened in the Senate in 2017-18) SCOTUS ruling on a national guard enforced federal lockdown would probably lead to Bleeding Kansas 2.0.     

Basically, I see 4 areas where President's actions or lack of thereof could have mattered:

  • border/flights restrictions. Trump overruled experts and likely saved ten of thousands of lives. Hillary wouldn't because muh it is what basket of deplorables wanted to.
  • more testing. Trump could have overruled experts of CDC, but didn't. Hillary wouldn't because muh listen to science.
  • more lock-downs. Trump could have been more supportive. Hillary couldn't because of the reasons you described.
  • POPULIST BOOMER STIMULUS. Trump delivered. Hillary wouldn't because Evil Republicans wouldn't let her to.
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« Reply #1207 on: April 11, 2020, 03:13:50 PM »







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« Reply #1208 on: April 11, 2020, 03:27:29 PM »

The banning of non-essential sales at Walmarts and Lowe's driven by some sense of "fairness" is insane when you take it so far as to ban gardening. You want people to stay out of the grocery stores and minimize the crowd sizes, you should be giving that sh@%t away, not banning its sale.
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« Reply #1209 on: April 11, 2020, 03:29:33 PM »

Why is the administration so obsessed with hydrochloroquine when there are several other possible drugs out there that seem to have shown more promise with fewer side effects?

Because Trump has a stake in the companies that produce it.
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« Reply #1210 on: April 11, 2020, 03:37:29 PM »

Why is the administration so obsessed with hydrochloroquine when there are several other possible drugs out there that seem to have shown more promise with fewer side effects?

Because Trump has a stake in the companies that produce it.

Stop it. It was debunked.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-profit-hydroxychloroquine/
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-small-financial-ties-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-drug-maker-2020-4

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Calculations by Business Insider suggest the stake — held via a trust and a mutual fund — is worth no more than $1,305.
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« Reply #1211 on: April 11, 2020, 03:37:50 PM »

Trump's stake in Sanofi is approximately 0.000004% of his wealth, or roughly the equivalent of a nickel to a person worth $100k.

Likely he's hawking it because he has wishful thinking that it will work since it would be by far the easiest antiviral agent under study right now to distribute on a widespread basis.
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« Reply #1212 on: April 11, 2020, 03:45:03 PM »

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but it's a powerful graphic that shows the increase in the number of deaths in the US from this monster virus, now the leading cause of death:

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1812248/?fbclid=IwAR2t98XMHiPPfSYewXoq51x7pg3lVYoU5phTbLoZ0AKHc-DcStjPqNE9Zco
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« Reply #1213 on: April 11, 2020, 03:49:12 PM »





From my ancestral hometown of Jalandhar, so beautiful Smiley
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« Reply #1214 on: April 11, 2020, 03:55:49 PM »

Re: don't reflect, spread, let's them defend themselves

@ some quote-tweet-posters


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Nate's on 🔥🔥🔥
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« Reply #1215 on: April 11, 2020, 04:09:11 PM »





From my ancestral hometown of Jalandhar, so beautiful Smiley
I thought you were Jewish, not Punjabi. I guess somebody can be both.
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« Reply #1216 on: April 11, 2020, 04:16:18 PM »


Amazing! Would like to think that this could continue post-lockdown but - of course - that's wishful thinking.
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« Reply #1217 on: April 11, 2020, 04:36:31 PM »

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« Reply #1218 on: April 11, 2020, 04:36:53 PM »





From my ancestral hometown of Jalandhar, so beautiful Smiley
I thought you were Jewish, not Punjabi. I guess somebody can be both.

No, I am not Jewish. I am half Punjabi and half Russian with the religions present being Christianity, Islam, and Sikhism.
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« Reply #1219 on: April 11, 2020, 04:46:26 PM »



It makes sense we have had the worst response to the coronavirus in the world, since we have the misfortune of having a President who is among the worst we have ever had since the founding of our republic.  


Heard the same thing about GWB in 2001, yet we still haven’t had a major terrorist attack since (almost 2 entire decades). Not bad for a ‘stupid’ ‘war criminal’.
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« Reply #1220 on: April 11, 2020, 05:08:31 PM »



It makes sense we have had the worst response to the coronavirus in the world, since we have the misfortune of having a President who is among the worst we have ever had since the founding of our republic.  


Heard the same thing about GWB in 2001, yet we still haven’t had a major terrorist attack since (almost 2 entire decades). Not bad for a ‘stupid’ ‘war criminal’.
Nice distraction.
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« Reply #1221 on: April 11, 2020, 05:10:45 PM »



It makes sense we have had the worst response to the coronavirus in the world, since we have the misfortune of having a President who is among the worst we have ever had since the founding of our republic.  


Heard the same thing about GWB in 2001, yet we still haven’t had a major terrorist attack since (almost 2 entire decades). Not bad for a ‘stupid’ ‘war criminal’.

We also didn’t have a major terrorist attack for the 250 years before GWB in 2001...
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« Reply #1222 on: April 11, 2020, 05:32:19 PM »



It makes sense we have had the worst response to the coronavirus in the world, since we have the misfortune of having a President who is among the worst we have ever had since the founding of our republic.  


Heard the same thing about GWB in 2001, yet we still haven’t had a major terrorist attack since (almost 2 entire decades). Not bad for a ‘stupid’ ‘war criminal’.

Dozens of pretty significant ones though...
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« Reply #1223 on: April 11, 2020, 05:36:52 PM »



It makes sense we have had the worst response to the coronavirus in the world, since we have the misfortune of having a President who is among the worst we have ever had since the founding of our republic. 

I still think Bush is worse than Trump, so I really can't agree entirely with this post. But Trump is certainly retarding the overall coronavirus response.
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« Reply #1224 on: April 11, 2020, 05:53:36 PM »



For now, Bush #43 and Trump are the worst POTUS in this century.
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