Should the House move to a proportional representation (PR) system of election?
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  Should the House move to a proportional representation (PR) system of election?
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Question: Should the House move to a proportional representation (PR) system of election?
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Yes, Open List PR
 
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Yes, Closed List PR
 
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Yes, Single Transferable Vote
 
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Yes, Mixed-Member PR
 
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No, the current plurality system is fine
 
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« on: April 04, 2020, 04:21:50 PM »

I'm currently writing a research/argumentative piece on this subject and would just like to see what the forum thinks.

If you are unfamiliar with some of these terms, FairVote has an excellent article detailing each:
https://www.fairvote.org/how_proportional_representation_elections_work
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2020, 06:01:37 PM »

If we managed to overcome the inertia, vested interests, & corruption holding back reform here in the U.S., then yes, we should switch to a massively better system. I vote MMP so that people can keep their local representatives.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2020, 06:08:48 PM »

I think that MM PR would help get some third parties in Congress.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2020, 06:54:39 PM »

No, but states shouldn't draw districts and there should be some sort of runoff/ranked-choice mechanism. I've often thought it would be nice to apportion senate seats by population and have them be statewide PR, though. Not that any of this is realistic.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2020, 03:17:04 AM »

Open-list PR in small constituencies (average magnitude of 5 seats, with a total number of seats increased to 1000) would be ideal for a country that's diverse both geographically and non-geographically like the US, yeah.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2020, 11:47:36 AM »

I've already expressed my preference for top-two runoffs in seats where no one hits 50%. It works well for France and it's totally compatible with the current American style because it happens in parts of the US and people can intuitively understand it.

A combination of that with increasing the size of the House as Antonio mentioned would really improve the House.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2020, 01:51:51 PM »

No, because having single-member FTP districts preserves some inherent geographic balance in the House.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2020, 01:47:34 PM »

Don Beyer sponsored a bill to switch to single transferable vote PR. Also, California, Washington, and Louisiana do not use plurality voting.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2020, 09:16:26 AM »

My feeling is PR would only make sense if the electoral college is abolished, and if the Senate stops being FPTP
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2020, 02:29:36 PM »

I would prefer a proportional by state system, with lists determined in state party primaries + the option for independents to appear on the ballot and be elected if they reach threshold.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2020, 10:55:02 PM »

No... but the current system is NOT fine. Other changes are needed.
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2020, 10:17:40 AM »

I think the idea of local areas being represented in congress has a lot of value, but its really hard to look at some of these ridiculous gerrymandered districts and think that these districts were actually drawn with local representation in mind. I certainly don't think a district that includes a portion of one city, a portion of another and a slither of rural communities in between constitutes a coherent local community that would send a representative to congress with a clear idea of the needs of their district.

I prefer 3-5 member districts and a huge increase in the number of representatives to atleast 1000, elected using ranked choice voting. It allows representation for political minorities in certain areas, a more representative electoral system and keeps a local link.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2020, 11:45:50 PM »

I think the idea of local areas being represented in congress has a lot of value, but its really hard to look at some of these ridiculous gerrymandered districts and think that these districts were actually drawn with local representation in mind. I certainly don't think a district that includes a portion of one city, a portion of another and a slither of rural communities in between constitutes a coherent local community that would send a representative to congress with a clear idea of the needs of their district.

I prefer 3-5 member districts and a huge increase in the number of representatives to atleast 1000, elected using ranked choice voting. It allows representation for political minorities in certain areas, a more representative electoral system and keeps a local link.

This exactly.
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2020, 11:51:58 PM »

My feeling is PR would only make sense if the electoral college is abolished, and if the Senate stops being FPTP
Fine by me!
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2020, 12:30:00 PM »

No, because having single-member FTP districts preserves some inherent geographic balance in the House.
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2020, 02:14:55 PM »

Only if we went to ranked choice voting for each individual CD, otherwise no.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2020, 04:01:11 PM »

Yes. Consolidate all the electoral districts into single, statewide districts, and award seats to parties based on proportional representation, on a closed list.

Create a single federal standard for casting, counting, tabulating, and certifying ballots.

Create a single federal standard for party registration and candidate nomination.
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2020, 07:24:47 PM »

I'd say move states with only one district to statewide ranked-choice voting, and move all others to a statewide mixed-member proportional system.

If the house was uncapped, then I'd support moving all states to a single-district-per-state nonpartisan mixed-member proportional system.
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